SO I attached a pic of the topology below..
whats going on is I am sending traffic from router 18 ( bottom left ) to a loopback R1 that is sourced from a lo on R18...its NAT'd on routers 11 or 12 just depending on where the hsrp active is for those. So when I do a source ping from the R18 I see the NAT translations on R11, they look fine and I even see the incoming traffic on R1 to the correct dest ( with the proper NAT address) but i get no reply's...funny thing is I also see 5 packets from the physical ip on R11 that holds the hspr and I think that has something to do with why its being dropped but I have no idea why they are showing up. May be some something obvious but I am stumped any idears?
Edit: also if anyone wants to take a crack at it id be happy to share the top file and configs