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    brownwrapbrownwrap Member Posts: 549
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    hiddenknight821hiddenknight821 Member Posts: 1,209 ■■■■■■□□□□
    fuz1on wrote: »
    LinuxFoundationX: LFS101x.2 Introduction to Linux


    Edx class that just started Jan 5th for those taking the LFCA/CE.

    Thanks to this guy's post over at the other thread, I thought I should share it here.
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    fuz1onfuz1on Member Posts: 961 ■■■■□□□□□□
    Cool! @hiddenknight821 - Thanks! @brownwrap - Cool tutorial. Keep 'em coming!

    I heard this exam is pretty hard too. Hopefully someone takes it soon so we can really gauge the difficulty.

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    brownwrapbrownwrap Member Posts: 549
    I registered yesterday for Scale. I signed up for the training track, but I don't see what is being covered. I knew they were doing BSD certs, but there is nothing listed on their site about it.
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    fuz1onfuz1on Member Posts: 961 ■■■■□□□□□□
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    fuz1onfuz1on Member Posts: 961 ■■■■□□□□□□
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    RemedympRemedymp Member Posts: 834 ■■■■□□□□□□
    I know that CentOS is closely related to RHEL. But, the LFCS gives the option of using CentOS or OpenSuse. Is one going to be better than the other for the exam or real world use?
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    brownwrapbrownwrap Member Posts: 549
    If your goal is RHEL, select CenTOS. We have RHEL here and SUSE on a CRAY. Granted the CRAY is a different animal. but when I installed OpenSuse, it had a different package manager.
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    RemedympRemedymp Member Posts: 834 ■■■■□□□□□□
    brownwrap wrote: »
    If your goal is RHEL, select CenTOS. We have RHEL here and SUSE on a CRAY. Granted the CRAY is a different animal. but when I installed OpenSuse, it had a different package manager.

    My goal is not RHEL. It is actually LFCS and then LFCE.
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    brownwrapbrownwrap Member Posts: 549
    Well, since no one here has actually taken the test, hard to give advice on either LFCS or LFCE.
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    fuz1onfuz1on Member Posts: 961 ■■■■□□□□□□
    Remedymp wrote: »
    I know that CentOS is closely related to RHEL. But, the LFCS gives the option of using CentOS or OpenSuse. Is one going to be better than the other for the exam or real world use?

    I think you'd be best served with your most knowledgeable distribution for the exam since it's all performance-based questions. That being said, if you are using the exam as job training and/or want to challenge yourself - go with CentOS.
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    RemedympRemedymp Member Posts: 834 ■■■■□□□□□□
    fuz1on wrote: »
    I think you'd be best served with your most knowledgeable distribution for the exam since it's all performance-based questions. That being said, if you are using the exam as job training and/or want to challenge yourself - go with CentOS.

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    integrated heterogeneous environment comprised of best of breed technologies from Novell, Oracle, IBM, Microsoft, Cisco, Dell, Hitachi, EMC and HP. Using technologies from these companies this specialist would work within a team to administer and support our production and pre production Linux based environments for mission critical applications. Key responsibilities would include documentation of solutions, implementation coordination and top level support of current and future LINUX (SUSE) environments. Also provide support as needed or be cross trained to work with Hitachi disk, CISCO storage switches, UNIX and Windows servers. A flexible work schedule, the ability to communicate and interact with other teams within the IT organization and compliance with established procedures including change control are critical to the success of this Linux Administrator.





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    Work with senior team members to identify and recommend new hardware/software technologies to enhance productivity or reduce costs.
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    Occasionally such as once every 2 weeks work a modified schedule to perform after hours maintenance or deployments of new software or hardware as required.
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    Capable of administering backup, restoration and disaster recovery solutions for production Linux environment strongly preferred.
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    Excellent communication, customer service and collaboration skills.

    The position pays $90 - $103k.
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    hiddenknight821hiddenknight821 Member Posts: 1,209 ■■■■■■□□□□
    Good news! I just found out you can schedule a free retake if you have taken the exam after March 1, 2015. Although I believe this only apply to the LFCS exam. I reckon they're trying to get people to take their exams to gauge how well they're doing so far. I ought to attempt the exam before April. Tecmint gives good articles on Linux Foundation exam, but they haven't updated the articles on the recent revised objectives for LFCS yet.

    UPDATE: Here's the link for the LFCS/LFCE Certification Exam Retake Policy. Turned out I was wrong.
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    brownwrapbrownwrap Member Posts: 549
    At SCALE 13 I attended a session where a guy who seemed to know his stuff, claimed to have taken and flunked the test four times, so he said he was a test case. He said he could have passed it. I didn't get a chance to press him on the matter. I did get a Linux Foundation shirt. On the front:

    ulimit = unlimited

    On the back logos of both certs.
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    varelgvarelg Banned Posts: 790
    brownwrap wrote: »
    where a guy who seemed to know his stuff, claimed to have taken and flunked the test four times...
    Four times?! I mean, after second failed attempt, there should have been a bell ringing...
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    brownwrapbrownwrap Member Posts: 549
    I wish I would have had more details, but with non-disclosure I didn't want to press him.
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    brusellbrusell Member Posts: 7 ■□□□□□□□□□
    Guys anybody was doing/failing on CentOS LFCE exam as me?
    I need to discuss few points via PM.
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    RemedympRemedymp Member Posts: 834 ■■■■□□□□□□
    I'm curious at this point if it's even worth it to take the LFCS over the RHCSA(?).
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    hyperstevehypersteve Registered Users Posts: 3 ■□□□□□□□□□
    Thanks for the heads-up! I just signed up for student membership, the LFCS and LFCE.
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    Linuxn00bsterLinuxn00bster Registered Users Posts: 4 ■□□□□□□□□□
    The real question are the following:

    LFCS vs. RHCSA
    LFCE vs. RHCE

    Which are more valued currently to prospect employers?
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    RemedympRemedymp Member Posts: 834 ■■■■□□□□□□
    The real question are the following:

    LFCS vs. RHCSA
    LFCE vs. RHCE

    Which are more valued currently to prospect employers?

    There is a difference between the two. LFCS/LFCE is from a foundation created to improve the continuing education of Linux and Open Source administration and development. RedHat is a corporation that sells a platform to business users for business purposes.

    If your company works with Redhat as a production platform, then it makes sense to certify in that. If you're a roving Linux admin or engineer, the LFCS/LFCE could be a signature to your performance.
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    Linuxn00bsterLinuxn00bster Registered Users Posts: 4 ■□□□□□□□□□
    Remedymp wrote: »
    There is a difference between the two. LFCS/LFCE is from a foundation created to improve the continuing education of Linux and Open Source administration and development. RedHat is a corporation that sells a platform to business users for business purposes.

    If your company works with Redhat as a production platform, then it makes sense to certify in that. If you're a roving Linux admin or engineer, the LFCS/LFCE could be a signature to your performance.

    I actually am leaning towards LFCS, but I just purchased an ebook from Amazon for the RHCSA/RHCE because I couldn't find any for the Linux Foundation stuff. Too bad I wasn't around when they had that promo. I just started doing in-depth linux studying about 2 months ago, but I have acquired a lot of knowledge

    My company uses a lot of machines on CentOS. I know that CentOS like RHEL is Fedora based so there probably aren't too many differences.
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    RemedympRemedymp Member Posts: 834 ■■■■□□□□□□
    I actually am leaning towards LFCS, but I just purchased an ebook from Amazon for the RHCSA/RHCE because I couldn't find any for the Linux Foundation stuff. Too bad I wasn't around when they had that promo. I just started doing in-depth linux studying about 2 months ago, but I have acquired a lot of knowledge

    My company uses a lot of machines on CentOS. I know that CentOS like RHEL is Fedora based so there probably aren't too many differences.

    The only Linux Foundation content you're going to find is on their site. No books need to be produced as it's already on their site. If you're really trying to get into linux, then it's best go with Comptia.
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    Linuxn00bsterLinuxn00bster Registered Users Posts: 4 ■□□□□□□□□□
    Remedymp wrote: »
    The only Linux Foundation content you're going to find is on their site. No books need to be produced as it's already on their site. If you're really trying to get into linux, then it's best go with Comptia.

    I heard that comptia isn't a very respected cert (even though you do get SUSE and LPIC-1 with it). I heard that the industry standard is the RHCSA/RHCE exams which can help people get a job as a Linux Sys Admin. Though these Linux certs from the Linux Foundation are new, I was wondering if they are also being used as an industry standard.
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    varelgvarelg Banned Posts: 790
    I heard that comptia isn't a very respected cert (even though you do get SUSE and LPIC-1 with it). I heard that the industry standard is the RHCSA/RHCE exams which can help people get a job as a Linux Sys Admin. Though these Linux certs from the Linux Foundation are new, I was wondering if they are also being used as an industry standard.
    From few testimonials of other members here, CompTIA Linux+ is a requirement for employees at certain levels working for a DoD contractor. So I'd disagree on CompTIA not being respected as far as Linux+ goes. Maybe some other CompTIA certs, but not Linux+.
    Also Fedora isn't the same as RHEL and CentOS, Fedora is Red Hat's experimental/proving ground for new software.
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    Linuxn00bsterLinuxn00bster Registered Users Posts: 4 ■□□□□□□□□□
    varelg wrote: »
    From few testimonials of other members here, CompTIA Linux+ is a requirement for employees at certain levels working for a DoD contractor. So I'd disagree on CompTIA not being respected as far as Linux+ goes. Maybe some other CompTIA certs, but not Linux+.
    Also Fedora isn't the same as RHEL and CentOS, Fedora is Red Hat's experimental/proving ground for new software.

    From my studies, I learned that Ubuntu is a Debian-based linux and that RHEL/CentOS are Fedora based Linux variants. They are not 100% the same but the main differences stem from the fact that Ubuntu/Mint and other Debian-based Linux variants use APT and Fedora based Linux (RHEL, CentOS, Scientific Linux) use YUM. OpenSUSE and other SUSE based Linux's and also has it's own as well. That's what I read from LinuxFoundation and also what I learned from my Linux class that I'm currently taking.

    In regards to CompTIA linux+, I know that if you take that exam, you also get the LPIC-1 and SUSE certs for free based on the LPI website. Sounds like a deal, but how in demand are those exams compared to the RHCSA? What is the industry standard?
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    techfiendtechfiend Member Posts: 1,481 ■■■■□□□□□□
    The majority of linux admin positions I've seen don't mention certs. Some ask for RHCSA/RHCE and few ask for Linux+.

    Many are looking for RHEL experience. Some seek BSD.
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    FSF150FSF150 Member Posts: 119 ■■■□□□□□□□
    LFCS is discounted again, $299 for the course/exam with a retake if necessary. May take advantage of it for my own personal development (not like I have enough going on right now or anything).

    https://training.linuxfoundation.org/linux-courses/system-administration-training/essentials-of-system-administration
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