Stay or go?
JamesRF
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Current job
Corporate IT Helpdesk
30k salary
401k after a year
2 weeks vacation
6 sick days
Health insurance available
On call but no schedule
Job offer
35k salary
No 401k
No insurance
2 week vacation
5 sick days
No on call
Small business MPS
The no health insurance or 401k thing bugs me but I believe both can be gotten by me right?
What is the better option?
Corporate IT Helpdesk
30k salary
401k after a year
2 weeks vacation
6 sick days
Health insurance available
On call but no schedule
Job offer
35k salary
No 401k
No insurance
2 week vacation
5 sick days
No on call
Small business MPS
The no health insurance or 401k thing bugs me but I believe both can be gotten by me right?
What is the better option?
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iBrokeIT Member Posts: 1,318 ■■■■■■■■■□Less than 20% salary increase, lose health insurance and lose 401k. You are basically making a lateral move compensation-wise.
Personally, I would make a counteroffer of 40k salary to make to it worth the move and make up for lost benefits. I would walk if they refused.2019: GPEN | GCFE | GXPN | GICSP | CySA+
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Dyasis Member Posts: 97 ■■□□□□□□□□How long have you been at your current employer and at that position?
Do you currently pay for health insurance or does your employer pay for it?
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RouteMyPacket Member Posts: 1,104Current job
Corporate IT Helpdesk
30k salary
401k after a year
2 weeks vacation
6 sick days
Health insurance available
On call but no schedule
Job offer
35k salary
No 401k
No insurance
2 week vacation
5 sick days
No on call
Small business MPS
The no health insurance or 401k thing bugs me but I believe both can be gotten by me right?
What is the better option?
Are you seriously posing this as a question?Modularity and Design Simplicity:
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kohr-ah Member Posts: 1,277.... I wouldn't even bother considering the 2nd offer.
5k, no insurance, no 401k (which is fine depending on if you actually use the 401k), on call is no big deal to me but the insurance thing along for me would be a NO unless I was getting paid well enough I could pay for my own insurance -
srabiee Member Posts: 1,231 ■■■■■■■■□□No insurance = no way. If something serious happened to you (God forbid) you are going to be in debt for the rest of your life.WGU Progress: Master of Science - Information Technology Management (Start Date: February 1, 2015)
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DoubleNNs Member Posts: 2,015 ■■■■■□□□□□Seems like a lateral move compensation wise. I don't know how long you've been at your current gig (but surely under a year), how old you are, whether you have a family, or where you're located. (Things like insurance are more important for some than others.) However, w/ an almost lateral move, I don't think all that matters.
What does matter is the reason why you're currently looking in the 1st place, what you do at your current role, and what you'd be doing at your next role. Would the next job be a step up in terms of responsibility and career progression? Or is the few extra K a year the only reason why you're contemplating jumping ship?Goals for 2018:
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cyberguypr Mod Posts: 6,928 Mod^ what they said. Also worth noting, jumping to another company is your best chance to get double digit salary increases which obviously is not the case here. Unless there's something extremely enticing like very high training allowances or tuition reimbursement, not worth it in my opinion.
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JamesRF Member Posts: 45 ■■□□□□□□□□Seems like a lateral move compensation wise. I don't know how long you've been at your current gig (but surely under a year), how old you are, whether you have a family, or where you're located. (Things like insurance are more important for some than others.) However, w/ an almost lateral move, I don't think all that matters.
What does matter is the reason why you're currently looking in the 1st place, what you do at your current role, and what you'd be doing at your next role. Would the next job be a step up in terms of responsibility and career progression? Or is the few extra K a year the only reason why you're contemplating jumping ship?
I'm considering it because where I work now will more then likely not give a raise. I'm single but need insurance as I've been going to the Dr regularly after a surgery I had this year. I have more room to advance and learn but I can learn a lot at my current role which is a computer/network tech.
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DoubleNNs Member Posts: 2,015 ■■■■■□□□□□You said you need insurance. You also said you can learn a lot. Additionally, you haven't been there for a year yet.
Stay. Learn as much as you can at your current job. Do some extra studying outside of work. And make sure the next offer you're fielding is a better fit for you.Goals for 2018:
Certs: RHCSA, LFCS: Ubuntu, CNCF CKA, CNCF CKAD | AWS Certified DevOps Engineer, AWS Solutions Architect Pro, AWS Certified Security Specialist, GCP Professional Cloud Architect
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WilliamK99 Member Posts: 278Current job
Corporate IT Helpdesk
30k salary
401k after a year
2 weeks vacation
6 sick days
Health insurance available
On call but no schedule
Job offer
35k salary
No 401k
No insurance
2 week vacation
5 sick days
No on call
Small business MPS
The no health insurance or 401k thing bugs me but I believe both can be gotten by me right?
What is the better option?
I would stay and wait for a better offer, Health Insurance is the kicker...If you get sick or hurt while working at new job your salary would be gone in an instant...The no 401K would have me worried too... -
Cisco Inferno Member Posts: 1,034 ■■■■■■□□□□stick it out. the other job is not worth it. study and get your certs, then move on when the jump is bigger.
As others have mentioned, the pay bump is not that much to be honest. It is not worth the risk.
Not to mention, working at an MSP is insanely fast paced and tough. Its up to you if you wish to get that much exposure to new things at once. Most msp's treat employees like slaves anyways. So be prepared if you choose this. It doesnt have the relaxfulness and creativity as a traditional IT Dept does.2019 Goals
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kohr-ah Member Posts: 1,277I wouldn't quit just over no raise. Get the skills and move up internally. Get your raise that way. If it doesn't work out you'll have the experience and hopefully a cert or 2 under your belt then start looking and go to that next level position.