Desktop Support Tech and Tier 1 Help Desk levels

I am pursuing a desktop support tech and multiple help desk tier 1 positions and I think I am a better fit with the former. I've had recruiters tell me that you usually start at help desk then move into a desktop support role, he was pushing a help desk position. Pay range seems to be about equal. Desktop support seems much more technical. Is desktop support on a hypothetical "higher level" then help desk tier 1?

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Chitownjedi

That would be yes

rsutton

It depends on the company; I've seen companies use these titles interchangeably so you will need to look at the job responsibilities. That being said, Desktop Support is generally considered more advanced than Help Desk.

techfiend

It turns out the desktop support position was looking for 2+ years of experience, which I don't have. I have independent contractor listed as helping family and friends which they thought was professional experience. This is the second time someone has taken this as experience since I added it a few weeks ago. I added it because my technical skills section doesn't agree with my experience section. I was getting about the same amount of callbacks without it, should I remove the independent contractor under experience?

Qord

If it's misleading, I'd say to either remove it or reword it to clarify.

techfiend

-Independent Contractor, 1996-Present
Break/Fix and maintain family and friends computers and networks. Assisted 100’s online.

Is this misleading? Suggestions on editing it?

rsutton

I see that a lot on resumes and I always take it for how you described it. I don't think it is misleading.

techfiend

Do you see it as a positive addition for entry level positions?

Should it still be included after working a short IT contract, say 3 months?

anhtran35

Unfortunately, there are times when you have to BS to get in the door. HR won't let you bypass their group till you meet the specific experience criteria. Additionally, you may look into working 2nd or 3rd shift IT jobs. Those shift hours are harder to fill and less stringent.

lsud00d

Did you have the thread where you helped people with VMware ESXi stuff online, without charging them? I think the 'Assisted 100's online' is misleading because it doesn't really explain what you did. Also, I would say 'Independent Consultant' instead of 'Independent Contractor' and describe it as

Freelance technical support for family and friends SOHO computers and networks

Also, what exactly did you do with their computers or networks? It's one thing if you setup a domain, pushed out policies...it's another if you setup a computer and ran an antivirus scan. Same goes for networking...did you setup/configure a switch, or just plugin an autoconfig'd router?

techfiend

anhtran35: I'm open to some 2nd shift and all 3rd shift but those are pretty rare here unless it's outrageous hours like 12 hour shifts for many days in a row. Which I can't handle and medically might be really bad for me. I've been told to avoid stressful situations whenever possible.

lsud00d: Yes I did the esxi and xenserver stuff online. I have Xenserver listed in skills along with things like active directory, lan/wlan setups, etc. I use a functional resume, everything is mentioned in skills sections and the irrelevant work history is buried. I've had very good luck with it. That's a great suggestion, I will use it thanks. I've always thought the assisted 100's online as a sentence wasn't very appealing.

MeanDrunkR2D2

Short answer to whether Desktop is more technical than help desk tier 1. Yes.

Long Answer. Yeeeeeesssssssssssssss

stryder144

MeanDrunkR2D2 wrote: »

Short answer to whether Desktop is more technical than help desk tier 1. Yes.

Long Answer. Yeeeeeesssssssssssssss

This post made my day!

techfiend

Should I put Independent Consultant on applications? Should it be the top/current employment for someone unemployed?

techfiend

berad I replied in your thread.

I'm leaning towards no on independent consultant on an application and will be sending it soon but advice for the future would be much appreciated.

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I saw you response techfiend, and thank you. I already did that interview. Tomorrow the interview is far more advanced.. I'm just looking for a good list of helpdesk questions or resource in which to be prepared.

@techfiend above is the very first thing on my resume'. I have drummed up quite a bit of interest with my resume' in a short period of time. I would put any applicable experience you have.

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techfiend

If/when I do switch back to a chronological resume and if I don't have any relevant by then I will put something like that on my resume. The only thing is owner/operator is pretty synonymous with truck driving in my experience.

It's nice to see you are getting interviews. I'm in the same situation, getting lots of interviews but that's where my problem starts as I'm horrible with interviews but with practice hopefully I'm getting better. It would be nice if they weren't so behavior, critical thinking oriented and more technical. Have you had the same experiences with interviews?

bhcs2014

In general, yes. But they're just titles after all.

GreaterNinja

Desktop usually always is more technical than Helpdesk unless its something like POS, or application server support.
Typically the hierarchy is lvl 1HD, lvl 1 Destkop or lvl 2 Helpdesk, lvl 3 HD or level 2 Desktop, then level 3 and level 4 desktop if the company has a tier like that. Level 3 Desktop or above would be Lead, Enterprise Desktop Administrator or Desktop Engineer or Executive / Conference support. As someone who has worked from the bottom (HD) to a Sr. level Desktop Engineer, Desktop usually has much less work than HD guys and is far less stressful. I can tell you that I will not go back to HD unless it pays serious money. In fact I'm looking at becoming a Security Expert or Network Engineer or System Administrator (I have experience and certs in all 3 fields).

techfiend

What would internal service desk analyst for 250 employee SMB be more comparable to?

GreaterNinja

techfiend wrote: »

What would internal service desk analyst for 250 employee SMB be more comparable to?

IMO, POOP. But that's just myself being burned out from working too many HD jobs. IMO you are much better off going Desktop route.

techfiend

I was approached for DS but it required 2+ years they thought independent contractor was contract work. I haven't seen other DS jobs that didn't require experience. I'm really interested in entry level noc and computer operations, they exist here but are uncommon but there I can get into technicai things and learn a lot.

GreaterNinja

If you are A+ certified that should be enough to get you into Desktop. I believe A+ Qualifies as 6-12 months of experience. When i started my first official Desktop Job I had to call and then meet with the recruiters in person. I was young, eager and energetic...I felt I could do the job and I wanted to do it. They gave me some temp jobs to try me out...then I got placed on a 2-3 year contract. Attitude and perseverance is key to getting your first desktop job.

techfiend

I've applied for some but the rare reply has always asked if I had experience, which I don't. Would love to get into those instead of help desk. I just discussed an interesting position with a recruiter. It's onsite tech support dealing mainly with Dell servers/workstations, cisco routers and printers, it's not customer facing. Too bad it's only about a month long contract. A good entry for me and hopefully would show good experience for future positions.

Attitude is somewhat of an issue for me, it's hard for me to get enthusiastic about a job that doesn't really interest me. Perseverance has been an issue for me in the past but hopefully not this time, at least I hope to get a job before forced into desperation again.

hurricane1091

My title is Helpdesk (depends, I've seen multiple titles for myself) and basically we have 5 IT people. 2 developers (1 is an intern), a CIO, a Sr. Systems Engineer, and myself. I am first response for everything. I do all of the desktop support troubleshooting, research products and make suggestions, have made a training presentation for new hires, do the tape backups and monitor for errors, get in touch with vendors for issues, dabble on the servers. So it depends where you go. But when I think of help desk, I think of "Can you unlock my account/reset my password?"