Linux+ with WGU

hurricane1091

On chapter 2. Just not having fun with this book honestly. Talking about installing packages and stuff. Just a ZzZ fest.

markulous

hurricane1091 wrote: »

I'm like 6 deep into the 24 CBT videos for the 1st half of the Linux+ (are you trying to take both at the same time?) I think I'm going to try to bang out these videos this week. They kind of are lacking, not as good as the CBT CCNA videos. I'll go through the LabSim afterwards and keep reading this book (also not great) and hopefully take it May 16. I can't really say if this is a good method or not obviously. Would definitely like to get both done by the middle of June though and bang out the Security+, then leave July-August-September open for 2-3 courses.

I've listened to about 3 of them so far today and they seem better than LabSim at the moment at least.

hurricane1091

markulous wrote: »

I've listened to about 3 of them so far today and they seem better than LabSim at the moment at least.

I've been listening to the lab sims at work. Kind of a disaster because there is 12 "chapters" or whatever, but 1-6 isn't the first test. It's all scattered as you've noticed probably (like 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 is the 1st test but 1.4 is material you should review when going for the 2nd test, but 1.5 is for the 1st test, etc)

I'm just going to bang out as much as I can I guess and see what happens. It's not compelling and I'm with you that I'm mostly interested in just passing.

markulous

hurricane1091 wrote: »

I've been listening to the lab sims at work. Kind of a disaster because there is 12 "chapters" or whatever, but 1-6 isn't the first test. It's all scattered as you've noticed probably (like 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 is the 1st test but 1.4 is material you should review when going for the 2nd test, but 1.5 is for the 1st test, etc)

I'm just going to bang out as much as I can I guess and see what happens. It's not compelling and I'm with you that I'm mostly interested in just passing.

Which is why I've been following Dan's Courses mainly, but yeah you would think they would have them in order. Since so much has overlapped I can probably take 102 within a couple of weeks of passing 101.

markulous

I honestly think it's a bit unreasonable to remember every command and every switch for that command. With the CCENT/CCNA, you have command line within the test so you can use the "?" and go through it like that. I mean, you have the --help command for each command, why would you need to memorize everything?

hurricane1091

Yes, there's a ton and it's annoying. I'm confused on the dynamic libraries stuff. I get it's like .DLL files (and only sort of understand that stuff with me not being a programmer) and I understand programs can use these dynamic libraries and "share" them. But it starts talking about /etc/ld.so.conf and going into all that and I start getting lost and my brain hurts. Any help?

markulous

That's another thing that's confusing too.

hurricane1091

Hmm. Do you know if you have to do the labsims? I'm 3 deep and I'm realizing it's going to take 25 years to do them all it seems like.

markulous

In my situation, my mentor told me all I have to do is pass the practice exam for 101 with a 90%. If I skip the videos and all the other exams, he doesn't care. I doubt they would make you go through all of them as that's not what WGU is about. If you have the knowledge, you should be able to take the exam.

hurricane1091

markulous wrote: »

In my situation, my mentor told me all I have to do is pass the practice exam for 101 with a 90%. If I skip the videos and all the other exams, he doesn't care. I doubt they would make you go through all of them as that's not what WGU is about. If you have the knowledge, you should be able to take the exam.

Okay, thank you. I was thinking that. I'm going to finish the first 5 chapters and 1st set of videos before those videos probably so I might not finish them.

markulous

hurricane1091 wrote: »

Okay, thank you. I was thinking that. I'm going to finish the first 5 chapters and 1st set of videos before those videos probably so I might not finish them.

I powered through them. Not sure if it was worth the time. So much info to remember.

hurricane1091

markulous wrote: »

I powered through them. Not sure if it was worth the time. So much info to remember.

Powered through the lab sim videos? I'm powering through the CBT ones. I have 9 done and will do 3 more tonight, so I'll be half way done the series. 2 chapters done on this book, so 3 left. I did the A+ the same way by splitting it up so I'm hoping it works. I think the 2nd half will be harder.

markulous

Yeah, Labsim. I didn't watch 11 and 12 because that's for 102, but I watched most all the other videos.

DoubleNNs

You can't go backwards on the CCNA. A majority of the questions were multiple choice w/ no command line on them to use the "?" on or tab completion. You still had to know the commands by heart for the most part.

You'll have the same experience w/ the Linux+. W/ the cp cmd realize that -r option is for "recursive," -i "interactive," -f "force," -v "verbose," etc. And for similar tools the same options will carry-over.

Also realize that there's a lot of material that is covered on the Linux+. It wouldn't make sense for the exam to ask you to remember obscure options. If you lab a little you'll quickly figure out which of the options are the most commonly used ones.

Edit: Seems like I'm spamming this thread w/ responses lol sorry

markulous

DoubleNNs wrote: »

You can't go backwards on the CCNA. A majority of the questions were multiple choice w/ no command line on them to use the "?" on or tab completion. You still had to know the commands by heart for the most part.

You'll have the same experience w/ the Linux+. W/ the cp cmd realize that -r option is for "recursive," -i "interactive," -f "force," -v "verbose," etc. And for similar tools the same options will carry-over.

Also realize that there's a lot of material that is covered on the Linux+. It wouldn't make sense for the exam to ask you to remember obscure options. If you lab a little you'll quickly figure out which of the options are the most commonly used ones.

Edit: Seems like I'm spamming this thread w/ responses lol sorry

Are you kidding? Everyone in here is helping me A LOT. And what you just said now actually makes more sense than the LabSim videos.

hurricane1091

DoubleNNs wrote: »

You can't go backwards on the CCNA. A majority of the questions were multiple choice w/ no command line on them to use the "?" on or tab completion. You still had to know the commands by heart for the most part.

You'll have the same experience w/ the Linux+. W/ the cp cmd realize that -r option is for "recursive," -i "interactive," -f "force," -v "verbose," etc. And for similar tools the same options will carry-over.

Also realize that there's a lot of material that is covered on the Linux+. It wouldn't make sense for the exam to ask you to remember obscure options. If you lab a little you'll quickly figure out which of the options are the most commonly used ones.

Edit: Seems like I'm spamming this thread w/ responses lol sorry

Thanks for your input. There's a lot of commands for CCNA but it seems like a million for Linux+. I'm sure it'll be okay.

markulous

So maybe the LabSim just has a crappy practice test, but does the real test have this many questions on each command and each switch? I get there are universal switches, but seriously there's literally like 50+ commands these practice tests are going over. Even doing a google search on how to memorize these, everyone is like "You don't, that's why there's help commands", which is my rationale. Just discouraging to get 40% scores on these tests...

anoeljr

markulous wrote: »

So maybe the LabSim just has a crappy practice test, but does the real test have this many questions on each command and each switch? I get there are universal switches, but seriously there's literally like 50+ commands these practice tests are going over. Even doing a google search on how to memorize these, everyone is like "You don't, that's why there's help commands", which is my rationale. Just discouraging to get 40% scores on these tests...

For the most part, yes the exam does test you over many commands and switches. I basically made a few word docs of each Domain test and then I went over all the questions, answers and explanations. When I didn't understand something I looked it up in either the book or on the internet, but most of the explanations were clear enough to understand. I would also test some of the commands in a Linux vm. It was alot of work though.

markulous

That's sort of what I've been doing. I've got a huge word doc with about 80 commands on it and other important info. I'm using the snipping tool to screenshot each question on the domain test and I'm going to go through them again and enter the commands a few more times in the terminal.

anoeljr

markulous wrote: »

That's sort of what I've been doing. I've got a huge word doc with about 80 commands on it and other important info. I'm using the snipping tool to screenshot each question on the domain test and I'm going to go through them again and enter the commands a few more times in the terminal.

Great, that should work for you. To be honest, I didn't really use the book at all. I started reading it and the material wasn't sticking as it was going all over the place. I only referenced it a few times (for permissions, directories, etc). All I did was do the exercises in use LabSim and study all the practice questions. I watched a few videos but stopped as I got bored. The practice questions really helped me understand the material better. At first I thought I was only memorizing the information. But I soon realized that I was actually learning the material as I was able to pass all the practice tests in the book while only getting a few questions wrong (I hadn't even looked at the questions in the book). If I can do it I know you can do it (and I'm not a smart person). You can do this, just have to push through it.

As for the 102 exam, that was another story. The LabSim was quite different from what was on the exam.

markulous

So you stopped doing the exercises too? It honestly feels like I wasted so much time going through those videos.

I think I'm reasonably intelligent, but definitely not super smart or anything and I feel like a moron going through these questions.

What is your advice on 102?

anoeljr

No, I still did the exercises. They seemed to help somewhat. Yea I feel like I wasted time going through the videos as well. Don't worry, that's how I felt as well with the practice questions. I was getting like 30% lol but after a few weeks I was doing much better. They are tough though.

As soon as you start the 102, make sure you get in touch with a course mentor as they can give you some more advice and extra resources to prepare for the exam. One of them actually told me that the 102 test had many questions on it that weren't fair and shouldn't have been on there. The LabSim helped for maybe half of the exam, but the other part was different to say the least. I think I used some Skillsoft resources for the exam too.

markulous

I'm hoping to take the exam next weekend, but I have tons of time at work to study. So maybe today I'll try to go through some of the exercises and see if I can score a 90% on the exam with the screenshots I have to get the voucher issued and all of next week I can go through each practice question and apply it to the VMs I have setup.

anoeljr

Cool, sounds like a plan. Let us know how it goes or if you have any more questions.

hurricane1091

markulous wrote: »

I'm hoping to take the exam next weekend, but I have tons of time at work to study. So maybe today I'll try to go through some of the exercises and see if I can score a 90% on the exam with the screenshots I have to get the voucher issued and all of next week I can go through each practice question and apply it to the VMs I have setup.

Are you only taking the 1st half? I say just take the damn thing (which you are) since WGU pays for 2 attempts. Only need a 500/800, you'll pass. I waited to take the ICND1&2 until I was seriously well versed. I'm definitely not trying to do that with Linux+ (there's value in knowledge, and knowledge is power, so I want to learn something out of this cert, but I'm starting a new position Monday and I'm not going to be dealing with Linux for at least awhile).

But, I watched video 10 last night and meant to do 11, but fell asleep around 10pm and woke up at 1:30 AM with the lights and TV on. Such a ZzZ fest lol.

markulous

anoeljr wrote: »

Cool, sounds like a plan. Let us know how it goes or if you have any more questions.

Thanks! Everyone has been uber helpful.

hurricane1091 wrote: »

Are you only taking the 1st half? I say just take the damn thing (which you are) since WGU pays for 2 attempts. Only need a 500/800, you'll pass. I waited to take the ICND1&2 until I was seriously well versed. I'm definitely not trying to do that with Linux+ (there's value in knowledge, and knowledge is power, so I want to learn something out of this cert, but I'm starting a new position Monday and I'm not going to be dealing with Linux for at least awhile).

But, I watched video 10 last night and meant to do 11, but fell asleep around 10pm and woke up at 1:30 AM with the lights and TV on. Such a ZzZ fest lol.

Yeah, I'm only taking the first half. If this was my MCSA, I'd be much more thorough, but I agree, I just want to get this over with. If I get a 500 and pass, I'm 100% ok with that.

markulous

Took the 101 practice exam and got an 87% and mentor said a 90% is needed to get the voucher, but hopefully that suffices. Granted I did Google a lot, but I won't tell him that.

markulous

Ugh...I scheduled the exam but the only available time they had that fits my schedule is May 9th. I wanted to take it this Saturday or even after work, but there wasn't anything I saw.

hurricane1091

I'm aiming for next weekend (maybe too optimistic)

markulous

hurricane1091 wrote: »

I'm aiming for next weekend (maybe too optimistic)

Good luck! Post in this thread on how you do and I'll do the same. Going through the labsim exercises and practice tests more and more are giving me a bit more confidence.