Screwed after giving notice

RHDS2K

Gotta love when this happens! So i've had some other posts about how i'm extremely underpaid (35k as a junior admin when average in my area is roughly 50k). I got an amazing job offer over tripling my current salary (with bonus), plus AMAZING benefits.. It's truly a once in a lifetime opportunity for me.. Yesterday i go in to talk to my boss and let him know i was giving my notice.. I was very polite and explained my reasoning and wrote a nice resignation letter. He said he understood and they enjoyed having me and blah blah. My last day was supposed to be next friday. Now this morning he tells me the new VP said he wants tomorrow to be my last day because tomorrow is the end of the pay period. Yeah sure it's only one week, and i'll practically make that up in my first day of work at my new job, but that's not the point! If i knew i was going to get Fked by them, i would have screwed them and not told them until this time next week! But i wanted to do the 'right thing' and give them a decent notice so i can leave on good terms and use them as a reference. The situation just pisses me off because if I would have just left i'd have a bad mark on my profile. But the company does it for "payroll reasons" and it's accetpable? BS! Sorry, I just really needed to vent because this got me pretty mad.

NetworkNewb

I've heard alot of people getting walked right out of the door right away once they give their notice. Just because IT has access to so much information... Enjoy your week off! Could probably file for unemployment for the one week if you are concerned about it.

dave330i

That's actually a very common practice, and it's not really a big deal.

RHDS2K

NetworkNewb wrote: »

I've heard alot of people getting walked right out of the door right away once they give their notice. Just because IT has access to so much information... Enjoy your week off! Could probably file for unemployment for the one week if you are concerned about it.

They claim it has nothing to do with access.. It's because our payroll ends tomorrow, so they would have to change payroll for the next period since i only worked 1 out of the 2 weeks. Such a BS reason. It would make more sense if i was walked out on the spot fearing that i may copy documents that i shouldn't (not that i would). I planned my resignation to give me a week off already so i could go visit my buddy in GA. Now i have 2 weeks off

iBrokeIT

Giving two weeks notice is a courtesy and one that can be declined by Current Company.

If losing the a week of pay is that big of deal call New Company and ask to move up your start date.

RHDS2K

iBrokeIT wrote: »

Giving two weeks notice is a courtesy and one that can be declined by Current Company.

If losing the a week of pay is that big of deal call New Company and ask to move up your start date.

I'd love to, but i cant start until after i finish my degree this month (it is their requirement).

networker050184

One of the chances you have to take. Most companies are cool enough to still pay you the two weeks even if they make you walk sooner. Guess it's a good thing you got out from under the less than cool new VP.

NetworkNewb

I'm just not sure why you are upset? If it was an involuntary leave at that time you can file for unemployment for the week. So doubt it is the money... You just don't like free time? It seems like it should be a good thing to you that they did this.

higherho

Honestly, just leave now lol. Turn off the work PC and say peace I'm out bitches then drop the mic.

joemc3

Really, your degree...IMO a degree is worth about 2 years of experience. I think HR is pushing degrees hard right now.

RHDS2K

NetworkNewb wrote: »

I'm just not sure why you are upset? If it was an involuntary leave at that time you can file for unemployment for the week. So doubt it is the money... You just don't like free time? It seems like it should be a good thing to you that they did this.

In PA there is a waiting week (atleast there was last time i filed) .. So my 'waiting week' would be next week then the week after that would be when i'm gone from my notice which would make me ineligible.

RHDS2K

higherho wrote: »

Honestly, just leave now lol. Turn off the work PC and say peace I'm out bitches then drop the mic.

Hahah i honestly thought about it.. But i need to have a meeting with the other admins and show them what i have done on my current projects. I really like my senior admin a lot, he taught me a lot. If i wouldn't be screwing him over by leaving now, I probably would.

NetworkNewb

RHDS2K wrote: »

In PA there is a waiting week (atleast there was last time i filed) .. So my 'waiting week' would be next week then the week after that would be when i'm gone from my notice which would make me ineligible.

ahhh that sucks than...

networker050184

Good choice. Never know when one of those guys might end up on the other side of an interview table in the future.

Deathmage

use your time off to study and enjoy your time off.

Look at it this way, the new job will make you work hard for 90 days and then you won't have a vacation for atleast a year....

I'd use that week to relax and reset! ...take it as a positive thing!!!!

jibbajabba

Is that a US thing ? If I agree a notice period with my employer then the notice period applies to the both of us contractually.

Unless there is a reason for immediate dismissal - they have to stick to the notice the same way I have to. So if I hand in my notice, I am basically willing to work for two more weeks and if they tell me to leave earlier - that is fair, but that is here in the UK called "Gardening Leave" - happens usually in the finance. So you go immediately, but you still get paid (and you cannot start a new job because you are technically still working for them).

But if they kick me out before my notice without pay - they effectively breach contract and I can sue them for the notice.

What am I missing here ??

dales

Yes its a US thing. Here in the UK the normal minimum period is one month it can be up to 3 or sometimes 6 in extreme cases. After you've handed your notice in they can put you on gardening leave but they still cannot reduce that month and have to pay you fully.

No annual leave for a year though at your new place thats harsh, thats the first thing I do when I accept a new position in the same letter. "Yes please and oh by the way heres my pre-approved annual leave and I'll likely also want blah blah blah off too"

networker050184

First off I'm no layer, but this is my understanding.

Most US employment is on an "at will" basis where either party can terminate the employment at any time. Unfounded termination is not allowed, but if OP wanted to bring a suit against them he'd probably have a hard time proving anything.

I assume you're in the UK? We have a group of network support folks in London and they certainly have some very different labor laws. HR handles all of that as it's much different than US.

BradleyHU

depending on your state, if its an at-will state, they can definitely do that.


but yeah, this isn't a big deal. Hell, i'd gladly take that week off between jobs. I can relax & do whatever i need to do around the house, buy some new clothes for the new job, depending on the dress code there.

and like others said, putting in your 2 weeks is a courtesy, nothing more, nothing less. And I've also seen pplz walked out right away once giving their notice.

higherho

This is very true. Interesting enough I'm the lead / boss of the individuals I worked with in the past. You never know what will happen. In my career, I only burned one bridge and that was my choice because the individual was a major ass hat. I didn't feel bad at all telling him were to go when I left.

Correct certain states have different rules about at-will. I also just found out that the state of Pennsylvania does not take state tax off your retirement when that time comes.

networker050184 wrote: »

Good choice. Never know when one of those guys might end up on the other side of an interview table in the future.

BradleyHU

Deathmage wrote: »

Look at it this way, the new job will make you work hard for 90 days and then you won't have a vacation for atleast a year....

where the hell do some of ya'll work @ where its like this? i've never had a probation period, and i've never NOT been able to use my PTO as soon as i start. And i've had quite a few jobs. The 90 days probabation is cake, so I don't care about that too much, but not being able to use PTO during my first year there, i would never take that job.

jvrlopez

Not sure if its a matter of not being able to take PTO from the start or just not having enough for a reasonable vaction built up yet.

yeah yeah

Courtesy works both ways. You can give 2 weeks to close out, and the employer can accept. Many do base resignations based off pay periods since from a finance perspective, it's just easier. I have seen cases where people drop their resignation letter off with a 2 week notice, and security is alerted to throw you out the building on the spot. Actually, it's hilarious when it happens. Either way, a courtesy can leave you F'd in the end. As good as a company treats you, or how great the people are, in the end....think about you.

BlackBeret

BradleyHU wrote: »

where the hell do some of ya'll work @ where its like this? i've never had a probation period, and i've never NOT been able to use my PTO as soon as i start. And i've had quite a few jobs. The 90 days probabation is cake, so I don't care about that too much, but not being able to use PTO during my first year there, i would never take that job.

Every company is different. I've seen/been with some companies where you don't earn vacation time until you hit the one year mark. For that company is was 15 days every year, at the one year mark you got it, instead of a little every pay period.

kohr-ah

Dont let it bug you. Enjoy your time off.

When I quit the MSP they gave me a counter offer and took me to lunch. I denied the counter offer and was walked out the door 30 minutes later.

Nothing to get bugged over.

jediweapon

I was laid off from a job and had to leave right then, while other people were allowed to stay on for an additional week. This was all because of my work role and access. I was paid for the following week though which was nice and this is in PA.

jibbajabba

dales wrote: »

Yes its a US thing. Here in the UK the normal minimum period is one month it can be up to 3 or sometimes 6 in extreme cases. After you've handed your notice in they can put you on gardening leave but they still cannot reduce that month and have to pay you fully.

NOt talking about the notice term per-se, rather the fact that they can send you home unpaid ..

Fulcrum45

Take the time off and relax- you've got bigger and better things ahead of you. As someone who hasn't a vacation in 4 years I would be overjoyed

dave330i

jibbajabba wrote: »

NOt talking about the notice term per-se, rather the fact that they can send you home unpaid ..

It's just renegotiating the last day. The OP can always say no to leaving early.

kurosaki00

dave330i wrote: »

That's actually a very common practice, and it's not really a big deal.

^This. It's very normal. Some people just have a lot of access to a lot of stuff and the company would rather invest time in a new employee or look for one right away.

Always try to have all your stuff ready to jump off the boat before even handing out your notice.

N2IT

Agreed with the no big deal crowd. It's business, not personal.