beads wrote: » Still tinkering with the idea of sitting for the new exam for giggles myself. Pretty sure I still remember most of what I would need to know with minimal review. Besides, I could use a day out of the office even if its really just a couple of hours. - b/eads
riyan wrote: » I think the best person to shed light on this would be JDMurray. He will analyze it from all ethical angles and viewpoints. However in my opinion, since you do not have valid a need so you are not required to know the CISSP sacred questions. Applying Need-to-know principle. Consider CISSP questions as secret. CISSP Organization spends considerable amount of money to keep it secret.
beads wrote: » Sacred? Have I read that right? Sacred? Hardly. Its also common knowledge that many of the folks who write the books on the CISSP as well as many other certifications take the same test over and over on an annual basis. Shon was famous for telling that story for years. Eric Conrad and Seth have both said similar. Sacred? Ouch! Been a member of the (ISC)2 for nine years now. No one ever said the questions were "sacred". Does this mean I will have to spend time in some sort of pre-arranged security purgatory analyzing false positives for my blasphemy? I think you need a wet washcloth and lay down for a bit. This has nothing to do with the ethics of taking the test past research. - b/eads
riyan wrote: » Before the above comment, I presumed that my sarcastic views are well received and it does not pose any confusion among reader. But I need to reconsider that. Anyways, I think you need to listen to this song. It will chill-you-out.Nina Simone, Felix Da Housecat - Sinnerman Let's agree to disagree. I am in clear disagreement with your thoughts that "for research purpose a CISSP Cert Holder in good standing can be allowed to retake the exam with his/her true identity in order to satisfy his/her desire for getting tinkling feeling or giggle...." I cannot reach to the folks you mentioned and ask them if they did it with their true identity and satisfied above conditions. May be they did it in paper-based exams. Shon Haris is dead now. Conard is too busy in minting money @SANS institute. So here we are left with our argument. ISC2 is not at all interested to get hold of your $2.396 (599/250) per question hard-earned-money. It cost them roughly 300$ to add one single exam item in the database after applying rigorous QA and QC in exam development process. On top of that, if they allowed this, than in India/China, people can send specially trained people to memorize the exam questions and reveal it to the test-brain-**** companies. I am sure no CISSP Cert Holder want this to happen. In addition to that, seriously who want to put 599$ and around 6 hours of time to the task that will not provide any apparent output. They already have got CISSP Cert rr can they put it Double CISSP or triple CISSP Cert holder. No way. From the legal side, you have already signed a contract with ISC2 and this discussion is pretty much about it.http://www.techexams.net/forums/isc-sscp-cissp/56185-cissp-retake-policy.html#post431272 I am quoting crux of the discussion here: "1.7 Recertification by Examination It is the policy of (ISC)² to prohibit the retaking of any (ISC)² examination by a certificate holder more than 90 days prior to the expiration of the holder’s certificate (i.e., to audit the exam). Furthermore, a certificate holder may not retake an examination if (1) he/she has been decertified by (ISC)² and prohibited from being recertified; (2) he/she possesses the requisite number of Continuing Professional Education (CPE) credits for recertification; (3) he/she owes any Annual Maintenance Fees (AMFs); or (4) he/she currently serves, or intends to serve within the next 90 days, as an instructor or advisor preparing others for the examination, whether for (ISC)² or any other organization. Violation of any provision of this policy shall" You may also want to note @JDMurray comments and observations about folks that you mentioned. Yes legally you may retake exams but you must ask yourself is it ethical as well. I have made myself crystal clear and I will not rub this in your pretty face neither I will say any insulting comments to you. I have been trained well by jedai @JDMurray. However you need to wonder why you are not in a healthy relationship with any human being apart from your laptop. You know what I am talking about.I have no intention and reason to insult you so I apologize for our misunderstanding. I hope you understand this as well.
beads wrote: » Sacred? Have I read that right? Sacred? Hardly. Its also common knowledge that many of the folks who write the books on the CISSP as well as many other certifications take the same test over and over on an annual basis. Shon was famous for telling that story for years. Eric Conrad and Seth have both said similar. - b/eads