VCP6-DCV Delta Beta Results?

emerald_octane

Anyone find out their results from the VCP6-DCV Delta (2V0-621D)? Wondering if I should just start studying just incase I need to take the real thing in August.

Edit: nevermind; just read the bit about it taking around 8 weeks so it should be any time this month.

kj0

When we spoke to Josh, he said it was very "Soon" but that was it. The Dates have been released for when the GA exam will be starting. I have skipped studying for retaking it and am going through the VCAP blueprints at the moment (As there is no VCIX blueprints at the moment)

I must say, going through the VCAP resources is great, it's covering a lot more that was in the VCP than I thought.

Essendon

It's actually 8 or so weeks after the beta period closes, not when you or I took it. So if you took it earlier in the beta like I did, we'll wait for the 8 week clock to start after everyone's finished taking it.

I may be wrong and I hope I am but I dont think the result will be out before the end of this month.

kj0

It actually would be 8 weeks since I took it as I did mine on the last day. :P

Surely you Delta guys aren't as worried as I am.. :S

Essendon

Well I hope I pass, at $50 for the delta beta it was worth a shot. If I dont, I'd just take the VCIX when it comes out.

GSXRules

GA for VCP6-DCV (standard and delta) are available to sign up, first available date to take is Aug 30th.

emerald_octane

I'd love to explore one of the other tracts but my day to day work is so far removed from virtualization vs. when I first pursued VCP...i don't even have a production build to chew on with for vSphere 6. (vs. managing full vSphere 5 clusters).

kj0

Yeah, I've got a possible vCloud design opportunity that may go ahead.. but I don't know if I'll do that silo, or just stick with DCV and just change it for VCDX.

jibbajabba

Essendon wrote: »

Well I hope I pass, at $50 for the delta beta it was worth a shot. If I dont, I'd just take the VCIX when it comes out.

If I fail I will likely skip the DCV and concentrate on the CMA path.

tomtom1

Wasn't the easiest VCP I've done, so I'm also curious to see the results.. Especially since I'm a bit further removed from vSphere on a day to day basis.. Hoping it's released this month, but it could also be the first (two) weeks of August.

jibbajabba

tomtom1 wrote: »

Wasn't the easiest VCP I've done, so I'm also curious to see the results.. Especially since I'm a bit further removed from vSphere on a day to day basis.. Hoping it's released this month, but it could also be the first (two) weeks of August.

Me, too. Doing not vRA / vRO, vCD, cROPs and whatnot these days.

kj0

If not released this week, I would have thought Monday next week at the latest. Thinking they should be out by the time the GA exams are live.

scott28tt

kj0 wrote: »

If not released this week, I would have thought Monday next week at the latest. Thinking they should be out by the time the GA exams are live.

The first final exam appointments aren't til August 30th - I wouldn't expect beta takers to get their result much before then, if before then at all...

kj0

scott28tt wrote: »

The first final exam appointments aren't til August 30th - I wouldn't expect beta takers to get their result much before then, if before then at all...

Hmm.. When I first looked I saw Aug 1. All good, thanks for the update!

Success101

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but VCP5-DCV - VCP6-DCV is a valid migration path? I've received exam authorization already for VCP6. I'm asking because I've had a counterpart tell me that VMware stated you HAVE to take a eligible class before you can receive your VCP6 certification.

kj0

Success101 wrote: »

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but VCP5-DCV - VCP6-DCV is a valid migration path? I've received exam authorization already for VCP6. I'm asking because I've had a counterpart tell me that VMware stated you HAVE to take a eligible class before you can receive your VCP6 certification.

If you have sat the 5.x Class and the VCP5 exam and have been awarded the VCP5 certification, you just need to take the VCP6-Delta exam to upgrade, you do not need to sit a 6.x class.

scott28tt

Success101 wrote: »

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but VCP5-DCV - VCP6-DCV is a valid migration path? I've received exam authorization already for VCP6. I'm asking because I've had a counterpart tell me that VMware stated you HAVE to take a eligible class before you can receive your VCP6 certification.

Don't let your VCP expire, and you're good. Have a look at the Migration Paths tab here: https://mylearn.vmware.com/mgrReg/plan.cfm?plan=64178&ui=www_cert

Success101

Thanks Scott. I knew it I saw it somewhere. There seems to be a lot of confusion out there in regards to VCP6 classes and exams.

jibbajabba

Saw a VMWare employee got his DCV result already so I got in touch with education and response :"Results are gradually rolled out with the majority being scored by August 31".

Don't remember the exact wording, but something asking those lines. Bottom line: End of August.

jibbajabba

* along those lines

kj0

Yeah.. I've been checking mine each day now.

Update: nope.. I'm kinda not expecting to pass now it's been so long to think about the questions.

J.Tot

They're really going to make us wait until Aug 31st, aren't they?

BTW check your prometric/vue history page. This will update first to reflect if you passed or failed

[h=1]Exam History[/h]

[TH="class: dateColumn"] [/TH]
[TH="class: examCodeColumn"] [/TH]
[TH="class: examNameColumn"] [/TH]
[TH="class: examStatusColumn"]Status[/TH]


27 May 2015
2V0-621D
VMware Certified Professional 6 – Data Center Virtualization Delta
Taken


15 January 2015
VCP510
VMware Certified Professional 5 - Data Center Virtualization
Pass


17 October 2013
VCAD510
VCA-DCV
Pass

tomtom1

Oh for the love of god, one week remaining!

Essendon

I wouldn't hold my breath, they've indicated they'd release the results by the end of August, you never know till they actually come out! Having said this, I hope they do. Dont know where I read it, but some people have already received their results, these folks were VMW employees. So they've been making progress, albeit very slowly.

jibbajabba

I sat in a PSO boot camp and most guys had their result already. Asked Education then 'wtf' and they insisted that results are being rolled out slowly but not before the 31st. Smelled fishy to me but I did see those credential so the vmw guys didn't make it up. I don't hold my breath either but mainly due to the fact I doubt I passed lol

goibhniu

jibbajabba wrote: »

Saw a VMWare employee got his DCV result already so I got in touch with education and response :"Results are gradually rolled out with the majority being scored by August 31".

Don't remember the exact wording, but something asking those lines. Bottom line: End of August.

Yeah, I'm just going to call BS on their claim (not yours, of course). When you are developing an exam the purpose of the beta exam is to determine the psychometric validity of each question and then set the cutscore and scaling/conversion, if any. They have to take multiple scoring passes. The first pass is just to determine the raw data as to which questions were answered correctly or incorrectly. Then they have to do an in-depth analysis on each question to see if it correlated to overall exam performance. For example, a question that everyone got right or everyone got wrong might not be a good question from a psychometric standpoint, as the point of the exam is to separate the people who know their stuff from the ones who don't. So each question will be tagged with a score that shows how highly it correlated with overall exam performance, and then the questions that are the furthest outlier from that will be deemed invalid. Then after that they'll have to run some other math to set the cutscore for pass/fail and the conversion, at which point all of the exams would be re-scored using only the valid questions. If they are doing this with any sort of automated process then once they have determined the valid questions and set the cutscore it should take them no more than a day (and really no more than a few hours at most) to re-score all exams into pass/fail. If they are not using an automated process then you might as well throw the results out the window, because otherwise it's prone to human error.

I just don't see how it's possible that they could be gradually scoring these exams unless they've royally screwed it up somehow. The exam goes live 6 days from now. At this rate I could sit the exam on the 30th and get results faster. It's shameful and they ought to be embarrassed.

scott28tt

I don't think beta takers will have their results til the final exam goes live.

The reason to take a beta exam is that it's cheap, not because you want an early result.

goibhniu

I'm going to say that there are many reasons to take a beta exam. For some people it's about saving money on the exam cost. For many people our employers pay for exams anyway so there is no cost. For some people this exam was their best shot at upgrading their VCP from 5 to 6 before their certification expired. In fact, I have a coworker who has twice received emails from VMware Learning telling him that his VCP status has been extended because he took the test before his VCP expired and they haven't scored his exam yet. Other people may take beta exams because they want an early look at the exam material and feel like it gives them a better idea of what to study for in the future in case they don't pass. Still others take pride in being one of the first people in the world to have earned a new certification. There are many reasons to take a beta exam, and cost rarely seems to be much of a factor.

I don't have any problem with them withholding the results until the final exam goes live (5 days from now). However, if that is their intention then they need to set that expectation for their customers up front. When registering for the beta we were told that the results would be available 6-8 weeks after the beta period ended. By my math it's already been 12 weeks since the beta period ended and we still do not have our results. Adding insult to injury, when I opened a case with VMware Learning via email to inquire about the test results, this is the response that I received (name and case number redacted):

As I understand, you need the Beta Exam results.

I would like to inform you that, Beta Exam results review have been ended, the results would out by some time.

Apologize for the delay.

Hope this resolves the query.

I mean come on, they're not even trying to be responsive here.

jibbajabba

First of all I am amazed how many people wait until the last second to renew, but I suppose there must be an individual reason.

One thing I don't appreciate is the hypocrisy about the results. VMware staff keep telling us how the results aren't available until the exam goes live, including you Scott, yet it has shown multiple times that staff taken the exam received their results weeks ago, which a PSO consultant has shown me as he was confused that I don't know the result yet.

Don't get me wrong, I don't mind if VMware staff get their results immediately, they are staff, I get it. I don't get though when I am being told one thing and it doesn't reflect another. Again, I am not really bothered about the result myself, I just don't like the communication about it.

goibhniu

jibbajabba wrote: »

First of all I am amazed how many people wait until the last second to renew, but I suppose there must be an individual reason.

I think that people like to extend their certification for as long as is practical to minimize the effort of keeping it. The certs have a two year expiration, and the clock resets each time you renew. If you renew your VCP after having it for only one year the clock starts ticking again. Then perhaps you renew it again after another year. Now you've taken three exams in two years to get 4 years of certification validity. On the other hand, if you earn the certification and then wait 18-20 months before renewing then you end up taking fewer exams and have time to focus on other things (other certification programs, an advanced degree, etc.).

Now if you're a trainer then I would understand why you would always want to take the newest exams as soon as they are available, because presumably you can only teach the courses if you are certified. But that's not the case for the majority of candidates.

scott28tt

As I mentioned - getting results early and therefore being one of the first to earn the certification - that's clearly not a reason to take a beta as has been demonstrated.

I renewed my VCP5-DCV with the VCP550D exam, so I can now update to VCP6-DCV whenever I'm ready, in the next 18 months in my particular case.

They actually said 8-10 weeks, but I agree it's been longer than that.

Although I am a VMware employee, I have no more of an idea than non-employees as to when the beta results would appear - it was my hunch that it wouldn't be til the final exam is released, based on what's happened in the past.