cyberguypr wrote: »
typing properly instead of a twitteresque-form come to mind.
ed_003 wrote: »
This isnt a letter or essay so chill i hot my message across that is all that matters.. ... i get not respect
i want to learn admin stuff im a better leader than a follower.
ed_003 wrote: »
Do "U" honestly think this is how I write an email to a client use abbreviations on my resume? hell no!!! I dont even text my boss like that so I dont need lessons in grammar.. there isn't one person I know that can look @ this site and say "o yea thats him".. I have tried asking my boss but I honestly think i know more than he does but tries to act like he all knowledgeable but i dont put him on the spot but its beyond frustrating to see him take the lead at a client site and him just bullshitting the client and they actually take his word for it.
"Grammar and spelling aren't everything, but this is a forum, not a chat room. You have plenty of time to spell out the word "you", and look just a little bit smarter." by Phaideaux
sthomas wrote: »
Working on certifications in the area that you have interest in and setting up a lab while you study will help you gain knowledge. The best way to get experience though is on the job so if you can't find an entry level position then volunteering somewhere is a good option, this is how I got into IT. Also don't forget networking with people, don't just apply for a job call them up and talk to the IT manager and see if you can send them your resume directly. I would even recommend contacting places that may not have a position publicly open but tell them you are looking and see if there is a need or possible position open in the future.
As far as certification goes A+/Net+ are a good start then moving on to MCSA or CCENT/CCNA. If you enjoy Linux and you want to set yourself apart then Linux+ would be worth looking into. When I first started working in IT I had A+, Net+, and Linux+. The L+ helped me get my first full time IT Support position because the organization had Linux servers and I was the only person that had some Linux knowledge on my resume.
Edit: After looking at your post a second time I see you already work on a help desk. Most of my post still applies though work on certifications and setup a lab, also network with people and that will help you get out of the help desk.
ed_003 wrote: »
Do "U" ...
SconnieInShorts wrote: »
And that, right there, is where I stop helping and will ignore pretty much anything you type/say/post from here on out. But by all means, please keep biting the hand that is trying to feed you. See how far that gets you.
Good luck in your endevors
scottishkiwi wrote: »
ed_003.. this isn't a place for attitude or combative behaviour. People in this forum are offering you help and advice. It is your choice if you want to listen but responding the way you do is not helping yourself and it is alienating anyone else from providing you any feedback. I would stand by cyberguypr's initial comment and would also advise "Labbing, volunteering, typing properly instead of a twitteresque-form".
Dreday40 wrote: »
ed_003, I can attest first hand to what everyone else here is saying. I was in your shoes 2 years ago(desktop side) but I just started showing a willingness to want to learn more on my own. In the 2 years since, I've gotten promoted to the server team(still feel a bit intimidated as I'm not as experienced) and have gotten my SCCM 2012 certification, MTA Networking Fundamentals certification.
ed_003 wrote: »
I want to learn badly.. but at my job now theres no opportunity to learn anything because theres no one to learn from.. my boss doesn't have the experience that he appears to have. I want to leave ASAP.
NetworkingStudent wrote: »
In response to the question:
How do U get experience when u cant get it @ work?
1) Finish all of your work and ask others if they need any help..
2) Setup a virtual lab
3)Volunteer inside and outside of work
4) Join a tech meetup
knownhero wrote: »
This is going to be a mildly long post:
I found getting experience in my chosen field to be a nightmare. I was working NOC way back when and that's where I saw SharePoint for the first time in its 2007 form.
It was then that I knew I wanted to work with that for the rest of my IT career. So I set to get as much experience in it that I could get. I went to our technical team and asked if I could be involved with it at any time they work on it.
They told me to go prove to them that I was serious, so I went out and got my 2007 configuration exam under my belt. I was shot down instantly. They truly believed I wasn't going to do anything and just said that to be "nice". So I had a qualification and no real time hands on with the software which really annoyed me. So after a year or so working in that NOC learning some more about SharePoint I thought it was time to move on.
I managed to land a job with a Development company that asked me to set up a basic standalone (LAME) SharePoint 2010 environment and create some libraries which was nice as I was using the newer version and basically becoming the "SharePoint Guy". Alas this wasn't to last, they pulled me off that and I never touched it again. But on the flip side I was moved to SQL Admin so it wasn't all that bad.
Fast forward two years I move job working for the government in their IT department for taxation systems. This is where I was "demoted" to helpdesk. I absolutely hated it. So I took it upon myself learn PowerShell.
So at this point I had SharePoint 2010, SQL, Server and PowerShell “knowledge” behind me. A job came up for Trainee SharePoint Admin and I thought f-it why not. I don’t mind taking a pay cut to get into the field that I want. So I got an interview and was offered my current role about 2 hours after said interview. I asked what made them choose me so quickly with my lack of SharePoint experience and they said:
“You have proven that you’re worth the risk with the amount of effort you have put into your certifications that you have done outside of working hours. You’re doing it for yourself and not just because someone told you to”
Since then I have now got coding experience, Advanced SharePoint knowledge and better communications skills oh and finally my MCSA 2012 Server/SQL.
Not to mention while doing all this I was studying and building my own lab etc. But I am happy it went the way it has, I have proven to people and myself that I can do it if I put my mind and effort into it. Took longer than I wanted to get to where I am at the moment but that’s the way the cookie crumbles
Never give up on learning. That alone is experience itself, yes you don’t have real world hands on but you’re proving to people you have an actual interest in the subject matter and want to progress.
Louie1277 wrote: »
Trust me i know the feeling. My boss handles all the server but I don't get a chance to work on them unless i have to update the security patches on them. that's why i try to build my own server on my laptop but that takes time and learning that I do have but learning slow on your own.
actionhank1786 wrote: »
I know you're not OP, but have you tried asking your boss if there's anything on the server you can help with? The guy above me used to handle all of the user creation and everything (back before I really knew what a server was) but since he was never physically in the office, I saved us both a lot of headaches (everyone asking me when a new user was going to have their information got old, and it saved him having to remote in) when I just offered to take it over and do the user creation.
Since then, I've taken over a lot more on the servers, and even created paperwork and processes to streamline things and make them compliant. Before, we had 100+ users in one big bunch on the server, no organization at all. Old users who hadn't been here for years mixed in with everyone else. One day I just got tired of it, and went through and disabled all of the old users and created an OU for them (Disabled Users) and then a little while ago I started moving through and creating OU's and Groups for every department for the eventual day when I can finally start applying GPO's to users to make my life easier.
Louie1277 wrote: »
I have in the pass but i think he's coming around. I will be working with other some production server. Now creating the users he did mention that I would start that down the road but we will see. For now I'm going to keep practicing on my laptop .
ed_003 wrote: »
think positive, eat and breath server 2012.. think about it when u go to sleep and when u wake up..