CISSP irregularities exam

super_girl

After i pass exam on last year ooh my god "congratulation you pass this exam"
But after i sent my endorsement to isc2, they reply this email to me
"As part of our ongoing forensic analysis of examination data, we carefully reviewed your examination responses. This review revealed a number of irregularities in your examination responses. Based on forensic analysis, and further investigation, we have concluded that your exam score cannot be certified as representing a valid measure of a candidate’s competence in the domains assessed by (ISC)2. (ISC)2 has therefore invalidated your CISSP certification examination results.
Pursuant to the (ISC)2 Examination Agreement which you accepted prior to the exam, this letter is serving as notice that your exam score has been voided and you are prohibited from sitting for any (ISC)² exam for a period of one (1) year.
(ISC)2 does not take this action lightly. To validate the legitimacy of exam scores, and confirm a candidate’s knowledge and experience in the field of information security, (ISC)2 conducts this analysis as part of its examination security program. As the leading credential for information security professionals worldwide, and because of the significance placed on achieving an (ISC)2 credential, it is important to safeguard the validity and protect the security of the (ISC)2 exam."
And they can't explain why?
Have anybody same in this case, how can i do? it very serious T.T

cyberguypr

Interesting. How long did it take you to finish the test? Also, what can you tell us about the testing center? Did you take any breaks? Maybe they observed something suspicious and flagged you.

NotHackingYou

I have never heard of this, please do tell us more about your testing experience.

bigdogz

super_girl:

I am sorry to hear that this has happened to you.
This is very interesting. I have never heard of this either. Please tell us what resources you used for the exam.

Thanks!

bubble2005

super_girl wrote: »

After i pass exam on last year ooh my god "congratulation you pass this exam"
But after i sent my endorsement to isc2, they reply this email to me
"As part of our ongoing forensic analysis of examination data, we carefully reviewed your examination responses. This review revealed a number of irregularities in your examination responses. Based on forensic analysis, and further investigation, we have concluded that your exam score cannot be certified as representing a valid measure of a candidate’s competence in the domains assessed by (ISC)2. (ISC)2 has therefore invalidated your CISSP certification examination results.
Pursuant to the (ISC)2 Examination Agreement which you accepted prior to the exam, this letter is serving as notice that your exam score has been voided and you are prohibited from sitting for any (ISC)² exam for a period of one (1) year.
(ISC)2 does not take this action lightly. To validate the legitimacy of exam scores, and confirm a candidate’s knowledge and experience in the field of information security, (ISC)2 conducts this analysis as part of its examination security program. As the leading credential for information security professionals worldwide, and because of the significance placed on achieving an (ISC)2 credential, it is important to safeguard the validity and protect the security of the (ISC)2 exam."
And they can't explain why?
Have anybody same in this case, how can i do? it very serious T.T

Can you indicate how long you were in the exam for? Did you take breaks or shifted your ahead out of your cubicle? Did you state CISSP as a credential on any website? How soon did you send in your endorsement after you passed your exam? ISC2 is very strict with their policies.

Gosh, that must be nerve wrecking, I felt extremely relieved after i passed the exam.
The best advice I can provide is to file a complaint immediately through their online form https://www.isc2.org/contactus/default.aspx Also please review their NDA and ensure you didn't accidentally violate any of steps 3 - 10 http://www.pearsonvue.com/isc2/isc2_nda.pdf....I'm just saying...

636-555-3226

My best guess is you did some shady stuff during the exam. Recognize a few questions from a **** and answered them in an unusually short amount of time for other people who read the same questions. The only people who really know what kind of monitoring is in place are isc2 and PearsonVue. Like they said, I'm sure they take this seriously and wouldn't fail you unless they were fairly confident.

What kind of security experience do you have? It may also be a red flag if you have very little experience but scored 99% on the exam, for example

gespenstern

Interesting.

Something should be really off in how you took your exam. Could you please provide a thorough description of your exam day, how you arrived, how your IDs were validated, how did you sit, how much time each step has taken, your estimations on how many questions did you answer per say an hour, were there any discrepancies, etc. Where exactly did this happen, which testing center did you use, were there any other folks over there sitting for their exams, how's the facility, were there any cameras, etc.

Also, please inform us on what you did to prepare yourself for the exam, how much time did it take, what resources did you use, what's your experience and how familiar are you with infosec in general, what other credentials you may have, etc.

TheFORCE

Very interesting, please do post some other details. I am sure theres always 2 sides on a story but we dont know your fully story to even start making any guesses.

GetUmJ

Very interested in hearing details of your testing day. Something seems to be off for them to flag you but it had to have started back at your testing center. Did they tell you anything while getting your print out?

havoc64

I have heard of this, but it's uncommon.. I too am curious as to your testing. Did you get finished in a very quick manner? Did you take a lot of breaks?

dustervoice

please answer all of the above questions. This is interesting!

Gess

Here is what ISC2 says about irregularities:

3.1 Exam Irregularities.
(ISC)2 exams are intended to be delivered understandardized conditions. If any irregularity is encountered before, during, orafter the administration of the exam, (ISC)2 will examine the situation anddetermine whether action is warranted. If (ISC)2 determines that any testingirregularity has happened, it may choose not to score the answerdocuments of the affected test taker(s), or it may choose to cancel thescores of the affected test taker(s). Testing irregularities include, but are notlimited to:
(1) evidence of prohibited behavior on test day,
(2) evidencethat a test taker may have falsified his or her identity,
(3) impersonation,
(4)unusual similarities in the answers of test taker(s) at the same test center,
(5)evidence of possible advance access to test content,
(6) other indicatorsthat the test scores may not accurately reflect a test taker’s level ofeducational achievement,
(7) errors in handling or processing registrationrecords,
( errors in preparing, handling, shipping, or scoring test materialsor answer documents,
(9) errors in reporting scores, or
(10) evidence ofother disruptions or compromises in the testing process.

E Double U

So basically super_girl got caught cheating (joking). Very curious to hear more details about that testing experience.

beads

@Supergirl;

Unusual but becoming more common. Either because more people are testing for the exam or because the ISC(2) is paying more attention to the obvious increase in exam cheating worldwide. Its not just an ISC(2) problem.

Did you happen to take the exam on a weekend at a non-PearsonVue testing site? If so your CISSP type proctor flagged you for unexplained behavior - for whatever reason, real or imagined.

The second most likely problem would be the odd chance that any number of people chose the same wrong answer sometime during the exam during a same testing period or few days. Questions that are statistically improbable to see two or more people choose the same wrong answer during a similar timeframe.

Can you think of an instance where someone may have verbally told you something about the exam? People have come forward indicating ("theoretically") an inside guide or "real exam questions" on the Internet, aka **** sites pass along some of these precious bits of wisdom on to others only to have the question and answer changed slightly to root out cheaters. This is an old testing tactic taught to me by a Professor pre-Internet. Worked then and I am sure - still works today. Beware well wishers with the inside track on any exam as a couple of my college classmates found a bit late.

Yes, I am being a bit dodgy here.

- b/eads

E Double U

beads wrote: »

Can you think of an instance where someone may have verbally told you something about the exam?

You mean when her buddy also taking the CISSP whispered to her during the exam?

ecuison

Ouch. Hopefully you can appeal and get this sorted out.

But just to comment on the talks regarding "brain ****", I am very appreciative that there have been analysis done in regards to rooting out people who try and use them on the exam. I have studied off and on for almost 3 years and finally grabbed my balls and studied for roughly 8 weeks minimum, 8-9 hours everyday before I took and passed the exam. To hear from numerous sources on-line and in person that "brain ****" don't cut it for the CISSP has made the certification more appreciative to me than other certs I have tested on.

To those who have busted their ass or are currently busting their ass to pass this exam, good luck and don't give up hope! You may hate all the work you have to put into preparing for this exam, but it is refreshing once you come out on top on the other side as any other certified member will tell you.

"Protect and Advance the Profession!"

No_Nerd

Don't people just use the brain **** to see the style and test of questions on the exam? I am lost as to how individuals think they can pass CISSP by just reading a few thousand questions. Useing **** of old test was done in college all the time to see the style of questions etc... But that didn't mean you expected to see the answers from a live exam. I have spent maybe 8-12 hours a day 7 days a week for the last 30 days getting ready for this exam. I have friends who like many of you work full time and have to stretch out the studying process over several months. Attempting to "skate by" on this exam just don't see how anyone could think it would work... To be honest I would rather fail the exam with my head high than **** and get a worthless document.

I am just confused as to how something like this could happen and the person not know why . I am sure ISC2 takes this serious right.... so this person who ever they are must have done something which he/she is holding back. Or maybe not but the second choice seems about 20 percent .


At the end of the day this is our chosen profession right? So we as a collective should do everything possible to keep some integrity and some form of honor in our ranks. That and who wants to work with a CISSP who does not actually know what he/she is doing .... that in it self could be dangerous.


End of rant....... I test tomorrow.

bryanthetechie

Person 1: "Damn, we must have gotten caught cheating again" Person 2: "I have an idea... why don't you go to that TE site, create a new account, and ask them if they can shed some light on reasons why we might have gotten caught." Person 1: "Great idea, that'll help us from getting caught in the future since the TE folks really know their stuff. I bet I won't even have to post after the first question because people will try hard to help me even though I'm cheating." Person 2: "Lolz, suckers. They'll never even suspect it." TE awesomedudes: "(We know they were cheating most likely but we'll help anyway cuz we're just awesomedudes) We'd love to help and here are some reasons why you may have been thought to have possibly been cheating:" Love you guys.

bigdogz

and no google glasses !!!!

If the person buzzed in and out for the exam there may have been a remembering of questions....
I think we are trying to be open minded and objective but yes, the bloodhounds are always out to find the truth.

TechGuru80

Person has one post and hasn't responded since their initial post...are people taking this seriously?

Fulcrum45

This reminds me of the guy who left a testing center with their blank (supposedly) dry-erase sheet and Cisco in turn banned him for life. I suppose in this case Super_Girl should be thankful its only for one year.

Tongy

The credibility of the cert is what is being protected from things like this by ISC2. If brain dumping (which could have been what they caught - response time to questions maybe...) can easily navigate the exam, the cert that all of us work hard to achieve becomes lessened by "bottom-rung grabbing CV padders"... not that I'm saying the OP has done anything of the sort, you understand.

It appears to be very matter-of-fact, no ifs, no buts or appeals. It must have been pretty bad.

The man/woman makes the cert worth something.... Not the reverse.

Mike7

TechGuru80 wrote: »

Person has one post and hasn't responded since their initial post...are people taking this seriously?

TE people are being helpful. Perhaps we move this thread to "Off Topic"?

super_girl

Thank you. i exam at pearson vue in thailand, finished exam about 5.30 hr, and i take a break only one time after exam 2.5 hour

super_girl

cyberguypr wrote: »

Interesting. How long did it take you to finish the test? Also, what can you tell us about the testing center? Did you take any breaks? Maybe they observed something suspicious and flagged you.

Thank you. i exam at pearson vue in thailand, finished exam about 5.30 hr, and i take a break only one time after exam 2.5 hour

super_girl

gespenstern wrote: »

Interesting.

Something should be really off in how you took your exam. Could you please provide a thorough description of your exam day, how you arrived, how your IDs were validated, how did you sit, how much time each step has taken, your estimations on how many questions did you answer per say an hour, were there any discrepancies, etc. Where exactly did this happen, which testing center did you use, were there any other folks over there sitting for their exams, how's the facility, were there any cameras, etc.

Also, please inform us on what you did to prepare yourself for the exam, how much time did it take, what resources did you use, what's your experience and how familiar are you with infosec in general, what other credentials you may have, etc.

my job is security consultant and VA tester, i work in this job about 6 years and passed training security+, CEH, cloud and etc.
i used only official guide 4th edition and especially read in topic what'new in 4th editon. Spend time about 3 month before exams.
CISSP question often ask in management term not deep down technical e.g what is the best thing?, what is the first thing you should do?
The review question is very cool because it summary the important thing you need to know in each topic but it is old questions same in 3rd edition book so it no have the new content questions

TheFORCE

Did you do anything during your break? Open a book or went outside the test center? Did you clock out and clock in when you took your break? Did you have anything on you that would be considered suspecious? Were you talking during the test or did you use your phone during the break? So many questions, you have to give more details as to the activities you did from the time you entered the test center to the time you left, including the break.

Archon

I would go back to them asking for an explanation as the 1 year ban suggests they think you cheated. If it was a problem calculating your exam you would have been allowed a resit straight away.

Tom T

[FONT=新細明體] [/FONT]Hi, All. I got same bad experience as SuperGirl. I took the CISSP in this Jan. and passed the test. When I was waiting for the result after the member enrollment, the Member Service of ISC2 email me on 17 March to invalidate my test result. The reason and the email content is exactly the same as what Supergirl got. Although ISC2 emphasizes their process is never taken lightly, I found my exam. date in the notice is incorrect!

Besides that, the Member Service Manager replied to my appeal on 23 Mar wrote:
'Due to the nature of (ISC)² examinations, we are not able to provide you specific example(s) to the irregularities/consistencies.'
Haha... I am discharged for consistences.....

The story continued. I had the meeting with the Regional Managing Director in Hong Kong and his other two staff on 15 Apr. I was proposed for a free voucher to retake the test by this director in resolving my matter. However, when I compromise for this arrangement, the director never reply me until one day I got an email from that Member Service Manager again on 5 May. She wrote:
'Since your examination result was invalidate, I am sorry to say that you must wait at least one (1) year to retake the CISSP examination. You will be able to sit for the CISSP exam after 11 January 2017. (ISC)² will not be able to provide/offer you a voucher to retake the examination.'

On 14 June, I file the complaint to ISC2 online in their website. Thus Member Service Manager shows up again and she said:
'All complaints go other my office first. Your case will be moved to the next level as soon as I receive your statement. '
Well, even though I told her that she has the involvement to my case, she keeps asking me for my statement before action. Haha...she may need the CISSP class for a better understanding on confidentially and integrity.

Anyway, I have enough with these nonsense. I rather spend my money, time and effort in other security cert. So, if you are going to take the test from this organization, think carefully as I am the guy who:
1. Spent almost 6 hours in the test center without break, water and washroom
2. Did not have enough time to review over 20 questions by the end of the test.
3. Prepared the test only by attending the CISSP class, studying 1 to 2 hours everyday in last 6 months before the test, doing a lot of exercises.

Good to you if you don't have the heart attack for taking this challenge!
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TheFORCE

Tom T wrote: »

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3. Prepared the test only by attending the CISSP class, studying 1 to 2 hours everyday in last 6 months before the test, doing a lot of exercises.
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What type of exercises did you practice from and where did you get them? Myself and other people here have taken multiple tests from ISC2 and have not had any issues.

ITSpectre

I think there was some cheating going on.