290 exam and AD

Just starting my 290 exam.

Layout likely will be 2 x 2k3 server + 1 xp pro.
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MS manual
Some testing software but unsure of yet.

Im going to set this up and it will have a domain with Active directory. However how much AD do I really need to know? I presume this would get covered in the 294 exam? But on the other hand AD features quite alot? Also does this exam cover the enterprise versions or just the standard?

Any help very welcome.

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kalebksp

The objectives are always a good resource for this type of information.
http://www.microsoft.com/learning/exams/70-290.asp

The objectives don't seem to indicate extensive AD knowledge is required, but I haven't taken the exam yet.

amyamandaallen

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Exam 70-290 became available August 14, 2003.

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hence the question - there seems quite a bit.

eurotrash

amyamandaallen wrote:

Im going to set this up and it will have a domain with Active directory. However how much AD do I really need to know? I presume this would get covered in the 294 exam? But on the other hand AD features quite alot?

if i remember well, you do need to know a good bit on AD.
though i think it's mainly like accounts and GPOs and stuff.

Also does this exam cover the enterprise versions or just the standard?

enterprise more than the others. of course you are expected to know what are the differences and features of the other versions, but Enterprise is the "featured" version.

kalebksp

amyamandaallen wrote:

hence the question - there seems quite a bit.

Yes... When you copy and paste a web page into a forum there does seem to be quite a bit of letters and words. Perhaps there is some sort of language barrier here, I'm speaking english, care to join me? What I was refering to is that it only says the phrase "Active Directory" four times on the webpage. So in that case, no, I do not consider four objectives dealing with AD to be quite a bit.

eurotrash

1 of the 5 main objectives is AD focused. so yes, it is featured quite a bit.

kalebksp

"Quite a bit" is a pretty subjective term, I don't consider it to be a lot, you do, awesome. For the record, that is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen someone try to argue about.

eurotrash

it is subjective, but does imply "a considerable amount". btw i've taken this exam while you haven't, so i guess you'll just have to take my word for it until someone else who's done it says otherwise.

kalebksp

Well golly gee, I guess I'll just have to wait for somebody else to tell me about your cool club! Until then I'll probably be crying into my pillow because some pretentious guy says I can't have an opinion.

eurotrash

jeez don't take it so personally.
all i'm saying is that i've experienced the exam, and in my opinion there is a considerable amount on AD, though nothing too "deep" as it isn't an AD exam.
you on the other hand haven't, so how can you say how much AD is featured (no, the exam objectives don't say how much)?

kalebksp

I was mocking you. Anyway, I think your opinion is probably the better judge than mine, because you've taken the test. Just don't tell me I'm wrong when it's an opinion, not a fact.

eurotrash

YAY!! MY OPINION RULES!!!!11!1one

kidding. but it really does rule

amyamandaallen

Ok didnt realise it pasted over the whole pargraph, was only supposed to be the AD section.

Im installing AD via the microsoft technotes anyway. just wanted to know from someone who had actually taken the exam.

By the way now that I have AD and DHCP setup I can no longer go on the web ( cause of a fixed IP addy ). In order to still do this I presume I need 2 NIC's? 1 for DHCP (fixed) and 1 dynamic?

Any pointers as to how to set this up? And I also presume that if I had bought a fixed IP address for this server I would only need 1 card anyway?

eurotrash

no you only need one NIC. and static is fine. did you set your default gateway to point to your router?

kalebksp

It would depend on how you connect to the internet. If you use a router you could connect without another NIC, but then it would defeat the purpose of running your DHCP server, so you'd have to connect the router to a hub, then to your computers. It would probably just be easier to pick up another NIC.

kalebksp

Hey omni, I guess we were posting at the same time. This time MINE is more correct.

eurotrash

ha! perhaps. but it depends on his network. my server has only one NIC configured statically, which is connected to a switch, which in turn is connected to the router. so i can access the internet my server and run DHCP (the other machines are connected to the same switch).

so yeah if his server is connected directly to the router, then you're right. but if he is connected to a LAN then i'm right (as in needing only one NIC).

kalebksp

True, but if you read my post more carefully you'll see I addressed that, although I said hub, not switch, I suppose either would work. So I'll give you half-points on that one, only because you posted first.

eurotrash

true, you addressed it. now we will just have to wait for amyamandaalen. have that half-point ready!

TeKniques

amyamandaallen wrote:

Ok didnt realise it pasted over the whole pargraph, was only supposed to be the AD section.

Im installing AD via the microsoft technotes anyway. just wanted to know from someone who had actually taken the exam.

By the way now that I have AD and DHCP setup I can no longer go on the web ( cause of a fixed IP addy ). In order to still do this I presume I need 2 NIC's? 1 for DHCP (fixed) and 1 dynamic?

Any pointers as to how to set this up? And I also presume that if I had bought a fixed IP address for this server I would only need 1 card anyway?

If your connecting to a router (ie: Netgear, Linksys, etc) just set the DHCP address assignments to start at like 192.168.1.20 or something, then you can statically configure a single NIC on your server (Below the DHCP start addresses) to access the Internet, etc.

Maybe I'm misreading the question, but did you actually set up a DHCP server on your Win2k3 server?

amyamandaallen

microsoft guide wants me to S'elect Use the following IP address, and then type 10.0.0.2 for the IP address. Press the Tab key twice, and then type 10.0.0.1 for the Default gateway. Type 127.0.0.1 for the Preferred DNS server, and then click OK. '

of course if I do this my ISP has dynamically assigned me an IP so I cant access the net. Not using a router either. Quite happy to install another NIC to get this going.

zenboy

Don't you love it when you seeing Geeks fighting about knowledge?..hehe