Upgrading to XP from NT 4 WS

thesemantheseman Member Posts: 230
in Windows XP Professional
Hey guys I have my 070 270 on May 26th, and have come across some conflicting information regarding this upgrade path. Does anyone know the minimum service pack required to upgrade successfully?

So far I have heard/read it is 5.... (no explanation)

As well as SP 4 (because this service pack changes the ntfs.sys file, allowing compatibility with the newer NTFS version)

I am just curious as to what the exam would consider to be a better answer?

Thanks,
Travis
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  • 12mcken12mcken Member Posts: 65 ■■□□□□□□□□
    theseman wrote:
    Hey guys I have my 070 270 on May 26th, and have come across some conflicting information regarding this upgrade path. Does anyone know the minimum service pack required to upgrade successfully?

    So far I have heard/read it is 5.... (no explanation)

    As well as SP 4 (because this service pack changes the ntfs.sys file, allowing compatibility with the newer NTFS version)

    I am just curious as to what the exam would consider to be a better answer?

    Thanks,
    Travis


    Windows NT 4 should have at least service pack 6 or later in order to upgrade to Win XP pro.
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  • TechJunkyTechJunky Member Posts: 881
    Agree. It is NT4 with SP6 or later.
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  • zebra-3zebra-3 Member Posts: 79 ■■□□□□□□□□
    but some books I have used are mentionning NT4 with SP5...others like CBT nuggets are saying NT4 with SP6.
    Who is certain for sure about from what SP you can upgrade to XP ???
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  • 12mcken12mcken Member Posts: 65 ■■□□□□□□□□
    zebra-3 wrote:
    but some books I have used are mentionning NT4 with SP5...others like CBT Nuggets are saying NT4 with SP6.
    Who is certain for sure about from what SP you can upgrade to XP ???

    It all depends on when the actual SP was issued and when the book was published. The SP6 didn’t get introduce until Nov 22nd 1999 and SP4 in Oct 25,1998. Therefore, if there was an exam question about which SP was required to upgrade from Win NT 4.0 to Win XP Pro, I would choose the most latest version depending on which year it was posed to me, that being SP6. Hope that explains the possible confusion of my personal opinion.
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  • sprkymrksprkymrk Member Posts: 4,884 ■■■□□□□□□□
    Hmmm... From MS site http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/upgrading/matrix.mspx it only shows that you can upgrade NT4 to XP Pro, not XP Home. No mention of SP levels though.
    All things are possible, only believe.
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  • 12mcken12mcken Member Posts: 65 ■■□□□□□□□□
    sprkymrk wrote:
    Hmmm... From MS site http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/upgrading/matrix.mspx it only shows that you can upgrade NT4 to XP Pro, not XP Home. No mention of SP levels though.

    In the context of the 70-270 exam and the question posed by ' theseman', we are only concerned with upgrading from Win NT 4 to Win XP Pro. You might want to open up a separate post about the upgrading path from Win NT 4 to Win XP home. Personally speaking, that wouldn’t be considered an upgrade, but a downgrade per say.
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  • zebra-3zebra-3 Member Posts: 79 ■■□□□□□□□□
    12mcken wrote:
    zebra-3 wrote:
    but some books I have used are mentionning NT4 with SP5...others like <a href=http://www.cbtnuggets.com/techexams target=”_blank”>CBT Nuggets</a> are saying NT4 with SP6.
    Who is certain for sure about from what SP you can upgrade to XP ???

    It all depends on when the actual SP was issued and when the book was published. The SP6 didn’t get introduce until Nov 22nd 1999 and SP4 in Oct 25,1998. Therefore, if there was an exam question about which SP was required to upgrade from Win NT 4.0 to Win XP Pro, I would choose the most latest version depending on which year it was posed to me, that being SP6. Hope that explains the possible confusion of my personal opinion.

    Ok, please answer to that question

    You are a service technicien called to upgrade a desktop with NT4 SP5 to Windows XP pro. what do you do ? you have to do it with the least efforts please choose.

    1 - upgrade first to SP6 and then upgrade to XP pro
    2 - upgrade to XP pro directly
    3 - launch coffee.exe
    4 - run the command mcp /?
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  • sprkymrksprkymrk Member Posts: 4,884 ■■■□□□□□□□
    12mcken wrote:
    In the context of the 70-270 exam and the question posed by ' theseman', we are only concerned with upgrading from Win NT 4 to Win XP Pro. You might want to open up a separate post about the upgrading path from Win NT 4 to Win XP home. Personally speaking, that wouldn’t be considered an upgrade, but a downgrade per say.

    I was only pointing out that the MS site made no mention of SP levels. I could care less about "upgrading" to XP Home. It may not be relevent to the exam, but I thought it was an interesting side note.
    All things are possible, only believe.
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  • 12mcken12mcken Member Posts: 65 ■■□□□□□□□□
    sprkymrk wrote:
    12mcken wrote:
    In the context of the 70-270 exam and the question posed by ' theseman', we are only concerned with upgrading from Win NT 4 to Win XP Pro. You might want to open up a separate post about the upgrading path from Win NT 4 to Win XP home. Personally speaking, that wouldn’t be considered an upgrade, but a downgrade per say.

    I was only pointing out that the MS site made no mention of SP levels. I could care less about "upgrading" to XP Home. It may not be relevent to the exam, but I thought it was an interesting side note.

    True, I concur! It is interesting! Feasible, probably not!
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  • sprkymrksprkymrk Member Posts: 4,884 ■■■□□□□□□□
    Aha! I just found this:
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/292607/en-us

    Here is a footnote from that page:

    Article ID : 292607
    Last Review : June 16, 2004
    Revision : 1.0
    All versions of Windows NT 4.0 (Windows NT Workstation, Windows NT Server, Windows NT Server Enterprise Edition, and Windows NT Server Terminal Server Edition) must have Service Pack 5 installed before you can upgrade to Windows XP. However, as noted earlier in this article, you cannot upgrade any of the Windows NT 3.51 Server products to Windows XP Home or Windows XP Professional editions.

    However, it is strange that they would mention the server products, which can't be upgraded to XP Pro anyway... MS really has a way with words, don't they? At least this seems to confirm SP5 can be upgraded directly to XP.
    All things are possible, only believe.
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  • thesemantheseman Member Posts: 230
    Hey guys,

    Did a bit of research on the topic, and apparently SP5 is the minimum, but SP6 is RECOMMENDED.

    I guess I'll just have to be very careful on the wording of the question.
    (Which is typical MS from what I understand)
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  • TechJunkyTechJunky Member Posts: 881
    When I took my test for my MCDST the correct answer was SP6.
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  • sprkymrksprkymrk Member Posts: 4,884 ■■■□□□□□□□
    I believe you TechJunky, but how do you know that is the correct answer from taking the test? They don't show you which answers you got right/wrong now do they? Or did you score 100%?
    All things are possible, only believe.
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  • zebra-3zebra-3 Member Posts: 79 ■■□□□□□□□□
    sprkymrk wrote:
    I believe you TechJunky, but how do you know that is the correct answer from taking the test? They don't show you which answers you got right/wrong now do they? Or did you score 100%?

    good point !
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  • TechJunkyTechJunky Member Posts: 881
    I got a 972. Which means I only missed 3 questions. I scored 100% in Configuring and Troubleshooting Applications, Resolving Issues Related to Application Customization, Configuring Application Security, Resolving Issues Related to Usability.

    I missed questions related to Configuring and Troubleshooting Connectivity for Applications.

    So Upgrading from NT to XP would be in one of the above that I scored 100% on.

    Hope that helps.
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  • sprkymrksprkymrk Member Posts: 4,884 ■■■□□□□□□□
    Great score tj. So the official MS answer is SP6? I wonder why there are so many conflicting answers, including some from the MS site? And will the same answer hold true for 70-270 as it did on your 70-271? One would assume yes, but...
    All things are possible, only believe.
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  • TechJunkyTechJunky Member Posts: 881
    Yes. I believe that question was asked in both 271 and 272. I doubt MS would change the correct answer on another test just to mess with you.

    Thanks on the score. I just hope to pass 270 and move on to 290. I have been working with Domain stuff for a while off and on, just never took any tests before. They seemed pretty straight forward and a lot easier than my CCNA test 3 years ago.
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