Being Underpaid in IT?

Im new to this site and i actually found this by accident after taking my A+ exam. Alot of good topics and tips around here. Anyway.. I currently make a slavery $24,000/year! but i feel im underpaid. I am a Computer Systems Technician here in New York City and my duties include troubleshooting, repairing and adding hardware/software to IBM server systems. I also work on IBM Blade Centers, Blades, Apple laptops, IBM laptops, IBM Desktops, HP servers, Loading Linux, Mac OS and Windows Images from Network servers and projects for other companies in the US. This is actually my first IT job and have been here for a year and 3 months. I landed this job without any experience or Certifications, the only thing i had was a certificate from a University on Technical courses i took. Im looking into Network+, Server+, Linux+ and maybe security+.. Do you guys think my pay is low? My Supervisor can be a duche sometimes and i have explained to him that i deserve an increase in pay due to all the things i do along with 14/hr days when projects come around. What should i do? look elsewhere or talk about my pay again?

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rcoop

jasonboche wrote:

Bottom line is $24k per year is a horse **** wage to be making for anyone doing the job this guy does and touching the equipment he touches. I don't care if he's part of a profit generating department or not, that point is irrelevant since market should determine this person's wage. Maybe this company doesn't make much money but they will be in much worse shape if they have no IT staff. Nobody on this forum can be blamed for a poor business plan.
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Jas

Jasonboche, this is a learning position... they hire "no experience, no certification" individuals to perform this work (or learn to do this work)... for a no experience position, regardless that it is in IT, $24,000 grand starting salary is not a bad place to start... and the experience is easily worth the other $26,000 you say his position is worth. Although his value (IT experience) makes him more valuable now (after 1yr 3mths), and he should most likely be promoted (much less become an employee), the position looks to be one they are willing to train an inexperienced individual just starting in the IT field for.

Just quitting is just as irresponsible and unprofessional as his employer appears to be. He should make his case for a raise, or ask someone (who has the authority to make it) what he needs to do to make more money in the company (and offer suggestions), and if they are not willing to give some type of growth (either position or money) then give a two weeks notice and explain (with tact) that you have opportunities to make more money doing similar work, and you wish them the best. Don't burn your bridge even if this is a crappy employer, you may just need the referral since this is your first real IT job. Never sink to the level of being unprofessional, even if your manager, supervisor, or company does... it make you a better person. No one can make you unprofessional, but you.

Take Care,
Rcoop

rcoop

...and from one of my previous employees, came the phrase "the devil you know, is better than the devil you don't"... which is the same as the "grass is always greener...", but somehow works better with employment for me

Best of luck!

Rcoop

lnsomnia

When I was trying to break into the IT industry about 6 years ago I would have taken $24k/year just to get my foot in the door. But know one was hiring entry level tech's, so I sat and watched as other technicians got the jobs, while I was stuck at a sales position. I waited 5 years before I could find an IT job that paid enough for me to still support my family and continue the same lifestyle I had when I was in sales. I made $32k + $5k bonuses in sales with my Medical/Dental paid for. When I was finally hired into a Desktop Support Tech II in May 2005, they started me at $42k/year which was about perfect to keep my lifestyle the way it was and I could support my family. I have been in the industry now for just over a year and I'm enjoying every minute of it. I currently make just under $50k/year. I added my MCDST cert back in April, so I anticipate either being promoted to a Tech III or a larger raise at the end of the year. One of the nice perks I have here is the vaction (PTO). I've only been here 1 year and I have over 4 weeks of vacation.

If any of you live around Tacoma, Washington, we do have 1 position open for a Desktop Support Technician. PM me for details if interested.

I would definately leave the $24k/year job. You have the experience, now find an employer who is willing to pay you what you're worth.

lnsomnia

strauchr

Just think "Bigger picture". Guys like you at your level are dime a dozen, just remeber that before you starting throwing around demands and claims of unfairness.

sprkymrk

strauchr wrote:

Just think "Bigger picture". Guys like you at your level are dime a dozen, just remeber that before you starting throwing around demands and claims of unfairness.

Not to be too insulting, because ITNYC seems like a nice guy blowing off a little steam here rather than on the job, which is a good thing, but what stauchr says is correct. There are a lot of guys that can perform this kind of work at a decent skill level. Even in my position as a Sr. LAN Admin there are definately others just as capable or more so that could fill my shoes in a second if I left.

ITNYC, you seem to have a good head on your shoulders and from your last couple of posts I think you have chosen a good direction. You'll do well with that attitude. I'm glad you were able to find some good advice here. Best of luck to you!

Plantwiz

ITNYC wrote:

plantwiz, thank you for your insight and advice on my situation. I appreciate it. Well, i guess i should calm down, brush up my resume as well as i can and find a new job. Although i still do feel 24K is low,.. thats not always going to be the case as my career goes on. As far as cost of living, sharing is the option for me.. since im engaged to my fiance, i will look into that, its doable. Anyway.. i dont really plan on storming out (as much as i want to) burning bridges is not a good thing and thats not the type of person i am. Best option i guess is to take what i have learned and find a better job.

My Pleasure

Aside from the initial vent, you've been very mature through this thread and stayed focus on point. I appreciate your listening! You're going to do well! Hang in there and best wishes on the future wedding

garv221

It is better than no job & you have to start somewhere. Now that you have started, it is time to move on.

strauchr

Think you'll regret leaving with less than 2 years exp. and no certs. Good luck and hopefully you won't regret it and you'll prove me wrong

SRTMCSE

Stay to pay the bills, but leave ASAP. No way will you make the money you need there. I'm in the same position, but I make $35k and I live in the poconos. I unfortunately took the salary b/c I was out of work and I'm only shooting for $38k (about 11% raise) and I know I won't get it, here's why. (This applies to most companies)

The average pay increase is what, 3% (inflation) to about 5% (unless you get a promotion). So let's go with 6% -

You're currently making $24,000.
Next increase at 6%, you'll be making $25,440.00
Next increase at 6%, you'll be making $26,966.40
Next increase at 6%, you'll be making $28,584.38
Next increase at 6%, you'll be making $30,229.44
Next increase at 6%, you'll be making $32,047.41

So it'll take you approximately 5 years of 6% annual raises (which are rare, in my experience) to break the $30,000 mark. And I know (from experience) you still can't afford to live anywhere nice (maybe you can afford a studio in the south bronx) off of that. Most landlords won't even give rent to you.

Search careerbuilder, you have way more experience on a varying degree of hardware and software than I do, and I've been applying for jobs posting $50,000-$60,000 in Manhattan.

ITNYC

SRTMCSE wrote:

Stay to pay the bills, but leave ASAP. No way will you make the money you need there. I'm in the same position, but I make $35k and I live in the poconos. I unfortunately took the salary b/c I was out of work and I'm only shooting for $38k (about 11% raise) and I know I won't get it, here's why. (This applies to most companies)

The average pay increase is what, 3% (inflation) to about 5% (unless you get a promotion). So let's go with 6% -

You're currently making $24,000.
Next increase at 6%, you'll be making $25,440.00
Next increase at 6%, you'll be making $26,966.40
Next increase at 6%, you'll be making $28,584.38
Next increase at 6%, you'll be making $30,229.44
Next increase at 6%, you'll be making $32,047.41

So it'll take you approximately 5 years of 6% annual raises (which are rare, in my experience) to break the $30,000 mark. And I know (from experience) you still can't afford to live anywhere nice (maybe you can afford a studio in the south bronx) off of that. Most landlords won't even give rent to you.

Search careerbuilder, you have way more experience on a varying degree of hardware and software than I do, and I've been applying for jobs posting $50,000-$60,000 in Manhattan.

Ive decided to just go with alot that has been said here, Getting experience and move on with it. Im going for something in the $40k range if im able to and as for what you said about about experience,... what kind of experience do you have? Hardware? Software? Servers? Networking?

SRTMCSE

ITNYC wrote:

SRTMCSE wrote:

Stay to pay the bills, but leave ASAP. No way will you make the money you need there. I'm in the same position, but I make $35k and I live in the poconos. I unfortunately took the salary b/c I was out of work and I'm only shooting for $38k (about 11% raise) and I know I won't get it, here's why. (This applies to most companies)

The average pay increase is what, 3% (inflation) to about 5% (unless you get a promotion). So let's go with 6% -

You're currently making $24,000.
Next increase at 6%, you'll be making $25,440.00
Next increase at 6%, you'll be making $26,966.40
Next increase at 6%, you'll be making $28,584.38
Next increase at 6%, you'll be making $30,229.44
Next increase at 6%, you'll be making $32,047.41

So it'll take you approximately 5 years of 6% annual raises (which are rare, in my experience) to break the $30,000 mark. And I know (from experience) you still can't afford to live anywhere nice (maybe you can afford a studio in the south bronx) off of that. Most landlords won't even give rent to you.

Search careerbuilder, you have way more experience on a varying degree of hardware and software than I do, and I've been applying for jobs posting $50,000-$60,000 in Manhattan.

Ive decided to just go with alot that has been said here, Getting experience and move on with it. Im going for something in the $40k range if im able to and as for what you said about about experience,... what kind of experience do you have? Hardware? Software? Servers? Networking?

With regard to experience, I've worked primarily with Windows Server Administration and Active Directory. In addition, I'm working a little more on the security end as well. Amongst other things I've pretty experienced in ITI software (banking software). I've done a little ASP.NET development for my previous company, but I hate putting that on my resume b/c I always get pigeon holed doing development and then held accountable when it takes too long since I'm not a developer by trade. Unfortunately it looks good and I put it and of course this time around...I'm doing development

but that's another story and I'm just ranting, LOL.

Like I said you got way more experience than I do and you can at least get a job with 50k-60k. The one thing that hurts me is no degree, which I'm going to rectify soon since I start classes the end of august. Do you have a degree?

Besides, for the money you're making, you can get a job here in the Poconos making $30-$36k (about the county average) and afford way more as far as housing and such goes. So long as you don't have any kids, it's just me, my fiancee and a baby and $35k sucks.

Matt_Smi

ITNYC wrote:

ms_visio wrote:

I donno much about the salary etc in NY city or anywhere in the US but according to what u told us you actually are working on slavery of $24,000/year.

Now you have experience and I think if ur boss doesnt agrees to pay rise you can move on to other jobs

good luck

It just bothers me a great deal to know that i am getting spit on. Not only do i work extremely hard but do many things at my job. I have worked on a $500,000 Server rack before and 11.50 an hour just haunts me for the work i do. Funny thing is, a friend of mine makes 12.00 an hour at a Foot locker and all he does is sell sneakers. Here i am working with IBM servers, networks,...etc and being payed less. Increadible.. this site has motivated me into getting more certificates and moving on after this current hell... i mean job.

I feel the same way! I am a field tech and make 12 and hour, my job is very stressful and it is not limited to just break/fix support, some weeks I am doing re-images for one company, or racking servers for a company. I have friends that are making the same as me doing brainless jobs. But strauchr makes the killer point, at least I am working towards a career and gaining valuable and relevant experience, that will hopefully help me make much more someday.

ITNYC

SRTMCSE wrote:

ITNYC wrote:

SRTMCSE wrote:

Stay to pay the bills, but leave ASAP. No way will you make the money you need there. I'm in the same position, but I make $35k and I live in the poconos. I unfortunately took the salary b/c I was out of work and I'm only shooting for $38k (about 11% raise) and I know I won't get it, here's why. (This applies to most companies)

The average pay increase is what, 3% (inflation) to about 5% (unless you get a promotion). So let's go with 6% -

You're currently making $24,000.
Next increase at 6%, you'll be making $25,440.00
Next increase at 6%, you'll be making $26,966.40
Next increase at 6%, you'll be making $28,584.38
Next increase at 6%, you'll be making $30,229.44
Next increase at 6%, you'll be making $32,047.41

So it'll take you approximately 5 years of 6% annual raises (which are rare, in my experience) to break the $30,000 mark. And I know (from experience) you still can't afford to live anywhere nice (maybe you can afford a studio in the south bronx) off of that. Most landlords won't even give rent to you.

Search careerbuilder, you have way more experience on a varying degree of hardware and software than I do, and I've been applying for jobs posting $50,000-$60,000 in Manhattan.

Ive decided to just go with alot that has been said here, Getting experience and move on with it. Im going for something in the $40k range if im able to and as for what you said about about experience,... what kind of experience do you have? Hardware? Software? Servers? Networking?

With regard to experience, I've worked primarily with Windows Server Administration and Active Directory. In addition, I'm working a little more on the security end as well. Amongst other things I've pretty experienced in ITI software (banking software). I've done a little ASP.NET development for my previous company, but I hate putting that on my resume b/c I always get pigeon holed doing development and then held accountable when it takes too long since I'm not a developer by trade. Unfortunately it looks good and I put it and of course this time around...I'm doing development but that's another story and I'm just ranting, LOL.

Like I said you got way more experience than I do and you can at least get a job with 50k-60k. The one thing that hurts me is no degree, which I'm going to rectify soon since I start classes the end of august. Do you have a degree?

Besides, for the money you're making, you can get a job here in the Poconos making $30-$36k (about the county average) and afford way more as far as housing and such goes. So long as you don't have any kids, it's just me, my fiancee and a baby and $35k sucks.

I do not think i can go for 50k -60k yet, im 23 and still have much to learn but im pushing towards that. I do not have a degree, which i need to get, as of right now all i have is certificates and Experience.

ITNYC

Matt_Smi wrote:

ITNYC wrote:

ms_visio wrote:

I donno much about the salary etc in NY city or anywhere in the US but according to what u told us you actually are working on slavery of $24,000/year.

Now you have experience and I think if ur boss doesnt agrees to pay rise you can move on to other jobs

good luck

It just bothers me a great deal to know that i am getting spit on. Not only do i work extremely hard but do many things at my job. I have worked on a $500,000 Server rack before and 11.50 an hour just haunts me for the work i do. Funny thing is, a friend of mine makes 12.00 an hour at a Foot locker and all he does is sell sneakers. Here i am working with IBM servers, networks,...etc and being payed less. Increadible.. this site has motivated me into getting more certificates and moving on after this current hell... i mean job.

I feel the same way! I am a field tech and make 12 and hour, my job is very stressful and it is not limited to just break/fix support, some weeks I am doing re-images for one company, or racking servers for a company. I have friends that are making the same as me doing brainless jobs. But strauchr makes the killer point, at least I am working towards a career and gaining valuable and relevant experience, that will hopefully help me make much more someday.

I know, its horrible. What do you mean re-images? Creating the image or ghosting the image from the network on to a Server?

Matt_Smi

ITNYC wrote:

I know, its horrible. What do you mean re-images? Creating the image or ghosting the image from the network on to a Server?

Most of the time the scenario is the company bought a bunch of new machines for a group of users, and their old machines need to have all their settings/data captured and backed up to a server. After we do that we pull an image from a server, I believe we used Altiris, and we also used an Altiris software portal to restore all the programs that the specific user was supposed to have, and finally restored their data and settings. Basically the companies don’t have enough IT people on hand to handle the upgrade so we get called in to help out. I mainly do break/fix on Dell machines, so I will be sent out to replace a motherboard on a laptop for example. But I am assigned to "projects" like mentioned above quite often.

supertechCETma

I was told once that if you are currently satisfied with your pay, you are overpaid.

ITNYC

Matt_Smi wrote:

ITNYC wrote:

I know, its horrible. What do you mean re-images? Creating the image or ghosting the image from the network on to a Server?

Most of the time the scenario is the company bought a bunch of new machines for a group of users, and their old machines need to have all their settings/data captured and backed up to a server. After we do that we pull an image from a server, I believe we used Altiris, and we also used an Altiris software portal to restore all the programs that the specific user was supposed to have, and finally restored their data and settings. Basically the companies don’t have enough IT people on hand to handle the upgrade so we get called in to help out. I mainly do break/fix on Dell machines, so I will be sent out to replace a motherboard on a laptop for example. But I am assigned to "projects" like mentioned above quite often.

Oh okay, I understand. I worked on a project similar to that about a year ago for clients, which called for hardware, software and imaging 80 IBM servers a week for 4 months. I think the software that was used was symantec. Im currently helping out the field tech in our department service laptop problems. have you ever Opened or troubleshot an Apple laptop?? Jesus, its just horribly made.. horrible.

ITNYC

supertechCETma wrote:

I was told once that if you are currently satisfied with your pay, you are overpaid.

Who told you that? lol

Humper

ITNYC wrote:

24k a year is fair in New York City? On what planet? Because i cant even live in a sand house with that here. cost of living in the south may be $600 a month for a nice decent apartment, where apartments here go for $1000+ for a decent apartment in a decent area... not even great. Anyway,... Im at the point of just quiting because i feel i have alot more potential than this current garbage. Also, this company is all about "who you know" .. 2 examples of this is,.. My supervisor, which was the Vice President of IT operations got demoted and the position was given to the owners daughter,.... another example is.. (which is my fav) was a "higher level" technician... up in the $60,000 range... got the position because he knew the president.. but has come by and asked me.. "what does a Hard Drive do".. <~~ (Yeah, 60k tech,.. what does a HDD do.) and "what is a BOOTDISK". Great isnt it? or "No internet connection so the NIC must be bad" when all that was needed was encrypted password to access the network.... anyway... Like the other guy said... Im not working on BS systems, if im working on IBM systems (Server Blades, Blade Centers..etc) but yes alot of what i have read on here is experience was the positive outcome, which im happy about and will be able to put on a Resume. As far as what i do for the company, is make sure the customer is happy with the systems and configuration, that way, they wont lose the account.. without the IT department, down goes alot. Come to think of it.. i did a very good job on a project and was voted to get an award but was given to the CEO's friend.. which amazes me. The IT department is a very important factor in everyday operations here but get the least appreciation

Get used to it....Theres the old saying that goes "It's not what you know, it's WHO you know"....BS like that happens all the time anywhere you go...not just IT.

ITNYC

ModemHumper wrote:

ITNYC wrote:

24k a year is fair in New York City? On what planet? Because i cant even live in a sand house with that here. cost of living in the south may be $600 a month for a nice decent apartment, where apartments here go for $1000+ for a decent apartment in a decent area... not even great. Anyway,... Im at the point of just quiting because i feel i have alot more potential than this current garbage. Also, this company is all about "who you know" .. 2 examples of this is,.. My supervisor, which was the Vice President of IT operations got demoted and the position was given to the owners daughter,.... another example is.. (which is my fav) was a "higher level" technician... up in the $60,000 range... got the position because he knew the president.. but has come by and asked me.. "what does a Hard Drive do".. <~~ (Yeah, 60k tech,.. what does a HDD do.) and "what is a BOOTDISK". Great isnt it? or "No internet connection so the NIC must be bad" when all that was needed was encrypted password to access the network.... anyway... Like the other guy said... Im not working on BS systems, if im working on IBM systems (Server Blades, Blade Centers..etc) but yes alot of what i have read on here is experience was the positive outcome, which im happy about and will be able to put on a Resume. As far as what i do for the company, is make sure the customer is happy with the systems and configuration, that way, they wont lose the account.. without the IT department, down goes alot. Come to think of it.. i did a very good job on a project and was voted to get an award but was given to the CEO's friend.. which amazes me. The IT department is a very important factor in everyday operations here but get the least appreciation

Get used to it....Theres the old saying that goes "It's not what you know, it's WHO you know"....BS like that happens all the time anywhere you go...not just IT.

Your definitly right about that happening anywhere.. but i was somewhat shocked when a higher level Tech asked me about a bootdisk... i couldnt help to think as to HOW that person is in that higher position. From what i have seen so far,... its about "who you know" for sure.

Humper

ITNYC wrote:

ModemHumper wrote:

ITNYC wrote:

24k a year is fair in New York City? On what planet? Because i cant even live in a sand house with that here. cost of living in the south may be $600 a month for a nice decent apartment, where apartments here go for $1000+ for a decent apartment in a decent area... not even great. Anyway,... Im at the point of just quiting because i feel i have alot more potential than this current garbage. Also, this company is all about "who you know" .. 2 examples of this is,.. My supervisor, which was the Vice President of IT operations got demoted and the position was given to the owners daughter,.... another example is.. (which is my fav) was a "higher level" technician... up in the $60,000 range... got the position because he knew the president.. but has come by and asked me.. "what does a Hard Drive do".. <~~ (Yeah, 60k tech,.. what does a HDD do.) and "what is a BOOTDISK". Great isnt it? or "No internet connection so the NIC must be bad" when all that was needed was encrypted password to access the network.... anyway... Like the other guy said... Im not working on BS systems, if im working on IBM systems (Server Blades, Blade Centers..etc) but yes alot of what i have read on here is experience was the positive outcome, which im happy about and will be able to put on a Resume. As far as what i do for the company, is make sure the customer is happy with the systems and configuration, that way, they wont lose the account.. without the IT department, down goes alot. Come to think of it.. i did a very good job on a project and was voted to get an award but was given to the CEO's friend.. which amazes me. The IT department is a very important factor in everyday operations here but get the least appreciation

Get used to it....Theres the old saying that goes "It's not what you know, it's WHO you know"....BS like that happens all the time anywhere you go...not just IT.

Your definitly right about that happing anywhere.. but i was somewhat shocked when a higher level Tech asked me about a bootdisk... i couldnt help to think as to HOW that person is in that higher position. From what i have seen so far,... its about "who you know" for sure.

"Senior" doesn't mean you know ****, but as most of us think that if you have a Senior title that you know your stuff. Where I work the Senior Network guy was fired because he did stupid **** all the time, without fail he would f*ck up atleast once a week. He was paid 90+ a year. I'm quite happy he is gone, I think his title should have been "Junior" lol

sprkymrk

ModemHumper wrote:

"Senior" doesn't mean you know ****, but as most of us think that if you have a Senior title that you know your stuff. Where I work the Senior Network guy was fired because he did stupid **** all the time, without fail he would f*ck up atleast once a week. He was paid 90+ a year. I'm quite happy he is gone, I think his title should have been "Junior" lol

Sadly enough it's true in some cases. However, as someone who has "Sr." in his title, I can tell you we're not all idiots.

ITNYC

ModemHumper wrote:

ITNYC wrote:

ModemHumper wrote:

ITNYC wrote:

24k a year is fair in New York City? On what planet? Because i cant even live in a sand house with that here. cost of living in the south may be $600 a month for a nice decent apartment, where apartments here go for $1000+ for a decent apartment in a decent area... not even great. Anyway,... Im at the point of just quiting because i feel i have alot more potential than this current garbage. Also, this company is all about "who you know" .. 2 examples of this is,.. My supervisor, which was the Vice President of IT operations got demoted and the position was given to the owners daughter,.... another example is.. (which is my fav) was a "higher level" technician... up in the $60,000 range... got the position because he knew the president.. but has come by and asked me.. "what does a Hard Drive do".. <~~ (Yeah, 60k tech,.. what does a HDD do.) and "what is a BOOTDISK". Great isnt it? or "No internet connection so the NIC must be bad" when all that was needed was encrypted password to access the network.... anyway... Like the other guy said... Im not working on BS systems, if im working on IBM systems (Server Blades, Blade Centers..etc) but yes alot of what i have read on here is experience was the positive outcome, which im happy about and will be able to put on a Resume. As far as what i do for the company, is make sure the customer is happy with the systems and configuration, that way, they wont lose the account.. without the IT department, down goes alot. Come to think of it.. i did a very good job on a project and was voted to get an award but was given to the CEO's friend.. which amazes me. The IT department is a very important factor in everyday operations here but get the least appreciation

Get used to it....Theres the old saying that goes "It's not what you know, it's WHO you know"....BS like that happens all the time anywhere you go...not just IT.

Your definitly right about that happing anywhere.. but i was somewhat shocked when a higher level Tech asked me about a bootdisk... i couldnt help to think as to HOW that person is in that higher position. From what i have seen so far,... its about "who you know" for sure.

"Senior" doesn't mean you know ****, but as most of us think that if you have a Senior title that you know your stuff. Where I work the Senior Network guy was fired because he did stupid **** all the time, without fail he would f*ck up atleast once a week. He was paid 90+ a year. I'm quite happy he is gone, I think his title should have been "Junior" lol

Thats just great

but what kind of errors/mistakes did he make? 90K.... man...

jasonboche

ITNYC wrote:

24k a year is fair in New York City? On what planet? Because i cant even live in a sand house with that here. cost of living in the south may be $600 a month for a nice decent apartment, where apartments here go for $1000+ for a decent apartment in a decent area... not even great. Anyway,... Im at the point of just quiting because i feel i have alot more potential than this current garbage. Also, this company is all about "who you know" .. 2 examples of this is,.. My supervisor, which was the Vice President of IT operations got demoted and the position was given to the owners daughter,.... another example is.. (which is my fav) was a "higher level" technician... up in the $60,000 range... got the position because he knew the president..

Ahhh.... politics... with a twist of family involvement.

Get out.

Get out while you can.

You will be most miserable in this company.

Things are a lot better than you are seeing in this company. Don't let this one experience ruin what could be a bright future for you.

Jas

ITNYC

jasonboche wrote:

ITNYC wrote:

24k a year is fair in New York City? On what planet? Because i cant even live in a sand house with that here. cost of living in the south may be $600 a month for a nice decent apartment, where apartments here go for $1000+ for a decent apartment in a decent area... not even great. Anyway,... Im at the point of just quiting because i feel i have alot more potential than this current garbage. Also, this company is all about "who you know" .. 2 examples of this is,.. My supervisor, which was the Vice President of IT operations got demoted and the position was given to the owners daughter,.... another example is.. (which is my fav) was a "higher level" technician... up in the $60,000 range... got the position because he knew the president..

Ahhh.... politics... with a twist of family involvement.

Get out.

Get out while you can.

You will be most miserable in this company.

Things are a lot better than you are seeing in this company. Don't let this one experience ruin what could be a bright future for you.

Jas

Thanks for the advice. Yeah, im looking foward to land a better job. Although this company opened the door to my starting career and the experience i gained, there is just no way im going to stay here.

drpower555

wow, thats like minimum wage up there yea? Check it out, you have a job, build on that. It sounds like the company your at works on the good ole boy network protocol. Get some more certs and ask for a raise, if that doesnt work, learn how to b@llSh!t your way around the pay scale. As for HDD clown boy, I would probably be tempted to screw with him, but thats your call. If none of it works its time to go, but keep it clean youll need a refrence later. Important ,"keep it clean". It breaks my heart to see good people working so cheap because it brings everyone down. This is why unions formed. I saw a job for an electronics technician the otherday for $10 hr, it just turned my stomach. Good luck.

nel

hi,

i'm another one who feels vastly under payed! the thing is i do easily 90% the senior helpdesk techs do, the thing is i am easily £10 k lower than what they get paid. i have also joined the saturday shift - which i am in by myself and i work for a daily paper, so it does have a large responsibility - i have also joined the call out rota too as we are a 24hr paper (contract work etc).

so basically i have took on my degree, got my a+ and am aiming for my network+ next because i want certs to show experiance and to also get in the ladder.

would anyone suggest the best way to justify a pay increase - around july next yr - so this will give me enough time to get a few certs to beef up my argument for a payrise? i feel i do a gd job, well behaved, on time, never off work sick, i would say i do 90% of the senior helpdesk techs the only work i cant do that they do is on the production machinery. i dont expect to go on an equal level as them but i think i deserve a few more £££'s.

does any one have any suggestions for a means of doing so?

ITNYC

DRPower555 wrote:

wow, thats like minimum wage up there yea? Check it out, you have a job, build on that. It sounds like the company your at works on the good ole boy network protocol. Get some more certs and ask for a raise, if that doesnt work, learn how to b@llSh!t your way around the pay scale. As for HDD clown boy, I would probably be tempted to screw with him, but thats your call. If none of it works its time to go, but keep it clean youll need a refrence later. Important ,"keep it clean". It breaks my heart to see good people working so cheap because it brings everyone down. This is why unions formed. I saw a job for an electronics technician the otherday for $10 hr, it just turned my stomach. Good luck.

minimum wage no, close to it? Yes. ive already talked to my supervisor about an increase in pay, still hasnt done anything about it, as if the conversation never took place. i mean even my manager has tried to increase my pay because he knows of the good work i do and how hard i work. Like i said in another post, i have gained what i needed... Experience. Im out the door as soon as an opportunity presents itself.