Has anyone failed exam after taking SANS CISSP boot camp

ExamCandidateExamCandidate Member Posts: 3 ■■□□□□□□□□
 Even though I have heard a lot of good stories about SANS CISSP prep course. I was just wondering if  there is any body who took the SANS boot camp and still failed the CISSP exam ( I mean after taking the SANS boot camp)

I am considering taking SANS bootcamp with David Miller , reading 11th hour and buying BOSON exam. 

will I be fine... ? 

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  • SteveLavoieSteveLavoie Member Posts: 1,064 ■■■■■■■■■□
    I am sure there are many person who failed after that boot camp or another one.  In my opinion, if you have already 75% of the knowledge with your actual work experience, then a bootcamp will give you the edge to succeed.  CISSP is a very wide exam, and I dont think the bootcamp experience is the most appropriate for this exam unless you are experienced infosec pro and just need to round off.   
  • DJVeritasDJVeritas CISSP | GISP | GMON | CNDA | CEH | Carbon Black Defense Analyst Member Posts: 40 ■■■□□□□□□□
    edited July 2020
    I took the SANS MGT414 class for David Miller back in December and found it to be very good. David is excellent at teaching all 8 domains and with knowledge retention. I just sat for the GISP on Tuesday and passed with a fairly good score. Failure all depends on how hard your work to gain and retain the knowledge taught in the class and materials. I have not sat for the CISSP yet and can't do so for a couple of months, since all seats are booked.
  • E Double UE Double U Member Posts: 2,087 ■■■■■■■■■■

    I am considering taking SANS bootcamp with David Miller , reading 11th hour and buying BOSON exam. 

    will I be fine... ? 
    Depends on how much experience you have going into the exam. How do you feel about your current knowledge of the domains? 

    I read the 11th Hour as a companion guide to the Shon Harris book and only recommend it to those with lots of knowledge that only require brushing up. I don't know how the Boson CISSP questions are, but the the practice questions that came with the Shon Harris book were good enough in my opinion. My only experience with Boson practice exams came from my CEH preparation and I found it useful. 
    Alphabet soup from (ISC)2, ISACA, GIAC, EC-Council, Microsoft, ITIL, Cisco, Scrum, CompTIA, etc.

    2022 goal(s): CRISC, maybe CGEIT or TOGAF

    "You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try." - Homer Simpson
  • JDMurrayJDMurray MSIT InfoSec CISSP SSCP GSOM GSEC EnCE C|EH Cloud+ CySA+ CASP+ PenTest+ Security+ Surf City, USAAdmin Posts: 12,670 Admin
    DJVeritas said:
    I just sat for the GISP on Tuesday and passed with a fairly good score.

    I just find it so very strange that there is an IT certification for a training class for another IT certification.
  • E Double UE Double U Member Posts: 2,087 ■■■■■■■■■■
    JDMurray said:
    DJVeritas said:
    I just sat for the GISP on Tuesday and passed with a fairly good score.

    I just find it so very strange that there is an IT certification for a training class for another IT certification.
    It means you are certified to become certified. 
    Alphabet soup from (ISC)2, ISACA, GIAC, EC-Council, Microsoft, ITIL, Cisco, Scrum, CompTIA, etc.

    2022 goal(s): CRISC, maybe CGEIT or TOGAF

    "You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try." - Homer Simpson
  • ExamCandidateExamCandidate Member Posts: 3 ■■□□□□□□□□
    Thank you all for your responses. Indeed David Miller is great and so is SANS as an institute. I took my SANS MGMT 414 from him few months ago and studying for my CISSP exam. Hopefully will take it  by end of august, will keep you all posted.
  • DJVeritasDJVeritas CISSP | GISP | GMON | CNDA | CEH | Carbon Black Defense Analyst Member Posts: 40 ■■■□□□□□□□
    I'm scheduled for CISSP on the 21st of this month and have been doing pretty good on every practice exam I could get my hands on. Taking the class, taking notes, making an index, allowed me to succeed in getting the GISP and hopefully the CISSP.
  • AverageJoeAverageJoe CISM, CDPSE, CISSP, SSCP, CYSA+, SEC+, NET+, A+, LINUX+, PROJECT+ Member Posts: 316 ■■■■□□□□□□
    I'm sure there are those who don't pass after a boot camp, but even more so there are a lot of folks who go through boot camps and never even take the exam.  

    I continue to think of boot camps as a "top off" to help focus studies, review materials overall, and an opportunity to strengthen some individual areas of study.  Unfortunately, I think too many people think of boot camps as the end all complete prep for exams, but a boot camp supplements and should not be expected to replace actual real-world experience. 

    So much so that I won't approve my folks going to a boot camp unless they can show me they already know at least the basics and they've already taken steps to become familiar with the preponderance of material.  I feel like I'm in the minority requiring this, and my folks hate it, but I think it is more likely to lead to successful completion and certification.
  • jayc71jayc71 Member Member Posts: 112 ■■■■□□□□□□
    edited July 2020
    I'm sure there are those who don't pass after a boot camp, but even more so there are a lot of folks who go through boot camps and never even take the exam.  

    I continue to think of boot camps as a "top off" to help focus studies, review materials overall, and an opportunity to strengthen some individual areas of study.  Unfortunately, I think too many people think of boot camps as the end all complete prep for exams, but a boot camp supplements and should not be expected to replace actual real-world experience. 

    So much so that I won't approve my folks going to a boot camp unless they can show me they already know at least the basics and they've already taken steps to become familiar with the preponderance of material.  I feel like I'm in the minority requiring this, and my folks hate it, but I think it is more likely to lead to successful completion and certification.
    Completely agree.  There are bootcamps which propose to teach you everything you need to pass an exam, but if you don't have a fairly good grasp of the material beforehand you are not likely to succeed.  Even if you do somehow retain the info long enough to pass, you are not going to have the practical experience to make use of it.  

    It reminds of when a few of us were sent to MS "MCSE Bootcamps" back in the early 2000's.... We already had the practical knowledge because we managed an AD infrastructure everyday, but it was quickly evident that the trainers were teaching only what was covered on the exam... literally saying "REMEMBER THIS" for this exam right before we took them.  

    There were several people in the class with no prior experience who failed miserably because it was just too much info for them to learn that quickly.  
    CISSP, CCSP, CCSK, Sec+, AWS CSA/Developer/Sysops Admin Associate, AWS CSA Pro, AWS Security - Specialty, ITILv3, Scrummaster, MS, BS, AS, my head hurts.
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