CCNP Update rumors are true

Well Certification Magazine has an article on the rumors here.

www.certmag.com/articles/templates/cmag_nl_execbriefs_content.asp?articleid=2251&zoneid=60

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blackzone

Cisco's way of saying buy our new router/switch.

The certifcate program is really run by the advertise department.

That's what all company do. Not that there is any problem with it.

MrD

Well, I can't seem to find a "Cisco" page devoted to the change. Anyone help me out? I'm going to take the BSMSN in a few weeks, so I would like to know about all of the changes directly from Cisco. Thanks!

hix18

As instructor I can only say this.....Prepare yourself
Changes will be affected soon in August.

MrD

Well, is it true they will only affect the BCRAN & CIT? I've heard the BSCI & BCMSN are staying...???

hix18

I cannot answer ur question directly but
CIT is not in the list and it more to Switches & Routers.
There will be new topic also...
It will be fun man...trust me

MrD

Damn instructors get advanced notice to everything, eh? Well, I guess I'm gonna have to get the Instructor Cert

Naw, but hey you would think the Cisco Networking Academy would have updated info., but my school is still offering the Cisco VI, which I believe is the BCRAN class.

hix18

hehe...

Dont worry so much MrD...BCRAN & CIT is not effected.
But....Nahh I will not tell u :P

MrD

I emailed Cisco about this and this is the response I received:

Thank you for contacting the Cisco Career Certifications and Training Team.

Currently, we don't have any information on CCNP certification and exams changes. You may continue taking the current CCNP exams, as they will still count towards your CCNP certification.

Please visit the "What's New" page to check for updates in the future.
http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/learning_certification_program_updates.html

If you have any further questions, or require additional assistance, please click the hyperlink above to update your case.

Be sure to bookmark the Learning & Events page for all of your future Cisco Training and Career Certification inquiries.

Kind Regards,
Lamija
Cisco Career Certifications & Training

EdTheLad

I'm sure Cisco's policy is not to discuss this until it appears offically on their website.Anyway we all know its changing, we all know the old exams will be valid for some time.I'm just curious as to when the change occurs, all indications i've seen still point to today, so we have to wait and see.
Now i'll have to consider whether to sit the CIT or the new QoS exam as i've passed the 642-642 there shouldnt be much extra to cover for the new exam. Anyway patience is all thats needed.

MrD

Ok, cool...patience is a virtue, I reckon

Danman32

CCNP not changing in 10 years? Then why have tests been retired, and even existing test focuses changed?

I hope they don't start piling in so much stuff that it becomes overwhelming. After all, isn't that what CCIE is all about, getting more in-depth?

forbesl

Danman32 wrote:

CCNP not changing in 10 years? Then why have tests been retired, and even existing test focuses changed?

The basic structure of the CCNP certification program has not changed in 10 years. Although the tests themselves have changed and more added to some of them, the structure of Routing, Switching, Remote Access, and Troubleshooting has not changed.

Don't get your panties in a wad guys, continue studying what you are studying now. Like ed said, the current exams will not immediately retire. You'll have time. Cisco will tell you what the last date is that you can register for a certain exam. Just make sure you sign up before then.

wildfire

althought theres no offical news, this is in the CCNP instant answers!!

http://makeashorterlink.com/?C3F14109D

I cant make any sense of it at all ! !

wildfire

and
http://ciscocert.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/ciscocert.cfg/php/enduser/fattach_get.php?p_sid=Z84pw8fi&p_accessibility=0&p_tbl=9&p_id=3459&p_created=1155652381&p_olh=0

also I noticed on vue the new exam codes are there but not on prometric

mikej412

TheShadow wrote:

Certification Magazine has an article on the rumors here.

This article makes it sound like a maketing guy has taken over certifications.

I thought they had sales tests that they could "align with their strategy of
the day - week - month - year."

If a techie was running the the program, they would just be adding exams
-- I could see an 8 or 9 test CCNP. Grab the 551, 642, 661 611, and 432
(SND, QoS, BGP, MPLS, CVOICE). Yeah, that would be a nice new CCNP.

Plus with 9 exams -- then the CCNP would have both Quality and
quantity when compared to the MCSE

Hopefully the CCIE Certification group has gotten up their Dilbert Cartoon
Barriers to keep the certification marketing types out..... never have I
been more glad that the CCIE Cert group seems to stay separate from
the regular certification group.

Does anyone have the URL to that CCNP Prep Center mentioned in the Article?

TheShadow

wildfire wrote:

I cant make any sense of it at all ! !

Second cup of coffee and it made sense. All four exams retire in december. New exams have new numbers obviously. Two exams have name changes BCRAN -> ISCRW and CIT -> ONT. If you take one of the existing tests by december it counts in place of the new numbers for three years from the date that you passed the first current exam. If we are to believe this then are they implying that the new exams have at least a three year life, given of course question pool rotation.

wildfire

http://forums.cisco.com/eforum/servlet/CCNP?page=main

also it looks like the are adding new CCNP instant answers as I type this as theres loads in there now, youd have a job sitting the new exam today thought Id imagine!!

wildfire

For all you in the middle of CCNP

http://makeashorterlink.com/?F1A13209D

last day to register 15th Novermber 2006!

forbesl

Wildfire,

Scrolling all the way to the right due to your long url links is driving me crazy!

You can go to this site to make shorter links to preclude this:

http://www.makeashorterlink.com/

wildfire

oops hadnt realised It had done that!!

TheShadow

Boy they are really pumping the answers out now, almost up to 50.
Two of the messages indicate that 20-25% of BSCI and BCMSN have changed.

If you can't register for the old ones by Nov 15 then there is no hurry.
Changing a quarter of each test is pretty major probably killing most
of the existing study material except cisco.com

Danman32

I just watched the video describing the changes. If you took an exam towards CCNP within the last 2 years, you can still use it towards the new CCNP.

If you passed: you can use it for:
BCRAN..................ICSW
CIT.......................ONT
Old BSCI.............New BSCI
Old BCMSN..........New BCMSN

Courses for the old tests go away 10/15, last day to register for old tests is 11/15, tests retire completely 12/31.

Until everyone gets up to speed, might be best to take official Cisco courses, or try and get the official courseware.
BSCI and BCMSN courseware moves to version 3.0, the other two are version 1.0 since they are brand new. They will focus on IOS version 12.4 of various routers.

http://tools.cisco.com/cmn/jsp/index.jsp?id=52653&redir=YES&userid=(none)

Webmaster

forbesl wrote:

You can go to this site to make shorter links to preclude this:

http://www.makeashorterlink.com/

Please use the url bbcode tag instead, like this:

[url=http://www.domain.com/long/url/index.htm]Link name[/url]

which would appear as:
Link name

Ching01

grrr.........IS THIS TRUE I WATCH THE VIDEO and they will change the CIT and BCRAN almost 80% and added new technologies.

Anyway, that's how technology goes. Do you think do I need to continue studying BSCI I am scheduled on Sept 2006.

Do we also need to purchase this new routers?

Danman32

They should be using the new courseware. Be sure it is version 3.0. You might want to call and ask before commiting, like maybe next week (giving them time to update their records).
Even if it is still old courseware though, you have until November 15 to pass the test based on the old course, and it can still be used towards CCNP as was stated in the video.

keenon

this means i have 30-45 days to finish bcran and 2 weeks to do CIT i think can do it

Danman32

keenon wrote:

this means i have 30-45 days to finish bcran and 2 weeks to do CIT i think can do it

11/15 is 90 days away from today. You have until then to pass these tests. I think you can even register for them by 11/30 for a test day as far as 12/31. Be sure to pass though, since if you don't, you won't be able to schedule a retake.

I visited the websites of a few test centers, it looks like they are already geared up for the new courseware. Those of us that are self-studying with third party study guides that are going to be stuck for a while.
Anyone know where to get the courseware books?

mikej412

keenon wrote:

this means i have 30-45 days to finish bcran and 2 weeks to do CIT i think can do it

Study like the wind!!

Nothing like impending exam changes to motivate for studying!

Hopefully when all the dust settles on all the new information, you'll have more than November or December 15th to register/finish the exams.

Now I don't feel so bad -- the 6 months or so for the CCIE Security Lab changes now seems like an eon of warnings!

mikej412

Whoa! It seems they have toasted the Cisco Certification Tracking Systems....

It seems since they added the new CCNP exams -- almost any professional exam updates all Certifications!

According to the Cert Tracking Website -- my last CCVP exam recertified all my other Professional level certifications! My head hurts!

Danman32

Yes, they did change the recertification requirement. ANY 642 exam will re-certify you.