Baby Steps...

Well, I went ahead and purchased Doyle's Volume I & II as well as some CCIE R&S flash cards today. Figure I might as well go ahead and start getting some IE reading down now. Why wait, as the saying goes. I have a tentative plan to take the written exam in May.

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homerj742

Best of luck, I hope to go for this in the next few years.

Humper

I would get my CCIE if i had the hands on experience. Its ok to know the theory, but if you can't troubleshoot at your job you're screwed. Having the CCIE title is a big deal and if you can't perform people will laugh at you. Thats why I think I will wait 3-5 years before getting my IE. That is just my opinion

I have been reading the doyle books anyways!

DW [banned]

Guys...

MrD

Rock on...that's what I'm talking about...let's move my test date to next month

kidding

mikej412

You got to start somewhere. And you got to start sometime. And since getting the CCIE can take a while (and cost a bunch of money) you might as well plan ahead!

Experience is important -- but I've seen people who had 20 years of experience -- where it was the same 1 year done 20 times, just at different levels.

I'll take a "whiz kid" who learns fast and actually does more in 6 months than that guy with 20 years of experience ever did in his 1 year of real experience.

5 years in a large corporate environment as a CCNP doing the same things over and over probably doesn't match the actual experience you'd get in 1 year working for a good business partner doing something different every day.

Humper

mikej412 wrote:

You got to start somewhere. And you got to start sometime. And since getting the CCIE can take a while (and cost a bunch of money) you might as well plan ahead!

Experience is important -- but I've seen people who had 20 years of experience -- where it was the same 1 year done 20 times, just at different levels.

I'll take a "whiz kid" who learns fast and actually does more in 6 months than that guy with 20 years of experience ever did in his 1 year of real experience.

5 years in a large corporate environment as a CCNP doing the same things over and over probably doesn't match the actual experience you'd get in 1 year working for a good business partner doing something different every day.

I will consider your advice:)

MrD

Well, I wish I was a whiz kid, but unfortunately I have to study my backside off to get anywhere

but, it builds character as my dad would say hehe. Anyway, let the journey begin...

NetworkGod

Hm, to each his own but i don't like rushing things, reading too much of material that i will not use for now is getting my head all mixed up with different subjects. I guess since you're almost a CCNP you could jump ahead into reading CCIE books, just to give yourself that extra push for the pass.

DW [banned]

Hmmm..

MrD

Has anyone read:

"CCIE Routing and Switching Official Exam Certification Guide, Second Edition (Geier, Mehta, Odom, ISBN# 1587201410)"

Any thoughts? Thanks.

mikej412

MrD wrote:

Any thoughts?

I couldn't wait for the 2nd Edition... so I stuck with the 1st Edition.

I'd rate it a must read for the Written Exam. Use it and the Written Exam Blueprint as a guide to what you should read in that super-mongo suggested CCIE R&S reading list. Then read it as your last book before you schedule the written exam (going back to any other books for more specifics if you get hung up on something in it).

MrD

Cool dealio..thanks for the help Mike

wildfire

I got this title, whilst its an excellent book, you cant rely on it being a single source, it only really provides and overview, for the CCIE written I would Add Doyle I and II, a Qos book and you CCNP books, I also used internet routing achitectures (difinitive BGP guide)

That reminds me Darby should be locked away down the CCIE torture chamber by now wonder how hes getting on, were " routing" for you man

MrD

Yeah I ordered Doyle I&II yesterday and was planning on ordering this today. I guess I'll throw in a QoS & BGP book as well. Any thoughts on which QoS book? Thanks.

This is the one on the "list":
Cisco Catalyst QoS: Quality of Service in Campus Networks
(Flannagan, Froom, Turek: Cisco Press 1-58705-120-6)

keenon

i plan on making my way to IE written sooner than orginally planned.. i was thinking on doing qos and bgp before hand but i will have to add them in during the process

MrD

Big K! Hey, which QoS/BGP books are you going to use?

keenon

i dunno going to look them up and pick.. but i do plan on using knet vids and cbt nuggets if available

add:

maybe this book i looked up the qos book and this was the most recent

Cisco QOS Exam Certification Guide 2 ed.

wildfire

MR D I used the QOS exam certification guide, which was more than fine, as it covered WAN stuff such as FRTS also which the other title you mentioned didn't, I go for min number of books,

otherwise I spend my life in the damm things

DW [banned]

Now the waiting game begins...

MrD

cool; that's the one I'm gonna get then...

as for BGP I guess I'm going with:
Internet Routing Architectures (2nd Edition)

DW [banned]

Kewl

mikej412

DarbyWeaver wrote:

I also like Parkhurst for OSPF.

He's a proctor (Hint Hint)

Cisco BGP-4 Command and Configuration Handbook

and

Cisco OSPF Command and Configuration Handbook

Very nice books -- The Parkhurst OSPF book was already on my "rack reading list" -- sit at my routers and try everything from the book. I also read it for the written exam (heck, I read the entire suggested reading list for the written exam, and then tossed more books in).

I read the Parkhurst BGP book for the written (and the BGP exam), and probably should add it to the rack reading list.

I also used the BGP Design and Implementation book by Zhang and Bartell -- but this may be considered BGP overkill. Doyle, Halabi and Parkhurst are probably enough for BGP.

<those BGP lab points will be mine! I will not be denied!

MrD

BGP Rules The World!

Thanks for the input from everyone!

Humper

mikej412 wrote:

DarbyWeaver wrote:

I also like Parkhurst for OSPF.

He's a proctor (Hint Hint)

Cisco BGP-4 Command and Configuration Handbook

and

Cisco OSPF Command and Configuration Handbook

Very nice books -- The Parkhurst OSPF book was already on my "rack reading list" -- sit at my routers and try everything from the book. I also read it for the written exam (heck, I read the entire suggested reading list for the written exam, and then tossed more books in).

I read the Parkhurst BGP book for the written (and the BGP exam), and probably should add it to the rack reading list.

I also used the BGP Design and Implementation book by Zhang and Bartell -- but this may be considered BGP overkill. Doyle, Halabi and Parkhurst are probably enough for BGP.

<those BGP lab points will be mine! I will not be denied! >

from what I am reading though there are alot of errors contained in those books.

mikej412

ModemHumper wrote:

from what I am reading though there are alot of errors contained in those books.

You can download errata for the Parkhurst OSPF and the BGP Design and Implementation books. Neither one of these is that bad for mistakes.

The Parkhurst BGP book could use a downloadable eratta doc, but one isn't available. With this one, if it looks wrong, try it out a few routers -- which does make it a useful Lab Practice book, maybe not so much a Written Exam read.

Yeah, this one is a good "hands on" book.

MrD

Alright...CCIE time! I plan on aceing the written here shortly and schedule the lab for May, maybe. I figure I'll get the CCIP on my journey towards the lab. Just my tentative early thoughts

MrD

Ok, I just finished 8 hours of BGP CCIE Nuggets. Wow, time to soak it all in while I eat some pizza and get a haircut. Then it's time to watch 10 hours of CWNA vid's...should be able to get them all done today.