icroyal and gphpboy help here it is or anyone!

hey guys

see image:

i am trying to send you an image of what i understand. it is a drawing
of my setup.
okay this is what i dont undertsand.

mx record placement
ns1 placement
itdaddy.net (domain ip resolution)

since i am trying to use dyndns.org free they give me client side
software to pump my public ip from within my private side out to their
dns servers to update my public ip to this name itdaddy.dyndns.org
i do have a public domain name i purchase through bravenet
which is itdaddy.net but there is no nameserver to point to
I dont have a public ip for this only i am using dyndns.org and the child domain name of itdaddy.

so where does my mx recrod get placed?
where do i get ip for my itdaddy.net?
and nameserver who to point to?


i dont want to pay for anything if i can help it.
or do i have to use mail relay (mailhop)service by dyndns.org
if i have to pay a small yearly fee i can do it. but i am cheap!
hee hee

thanks IT gurus!
get my bravenet free site up to webcast images for others to see

yours truly itdummy!


http://itdaddy.bravehost.com/itdaddy.htm icon_cry.gif

Comments

  • geekiegeekie Posts: 391Member
    since i am trying to use dyndns.org free they give me client side
    software to pump my public ip from within my private side out to their
    dns servers to update my public ip to this name itdaddy.dyndns.org

    Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought the reason for the dyndns update software is to update dns when you have a dynamic ip address issued by your ISP. Is that the case?
    i do have a public domain name i purchase through bravenet
    which is itdaddy.net

    Well if I were you I'd configure your mx and A records with bravenet. That's assuming you have a static IP address.
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  • SlowhandSlowhand Questionably Benevolent Bay Area, CaliforniaPosts: 5,163Mod Mod
    I believe that dyndns.org will have a static address you can point to. Back when I used them, they had some options for creating MX records and A records right there on the site. I'd say go take a look at their FAQ and see if someone's already asked the question you have now. My guess is that you'll be pointing to some subdomain of theirs, like: itdaddysspiffydomain.dyndns.org. See what they have in terms of DNS, and if they can point you to the domain hoster. (Or if the domain hoster can point to your section over at dyndns.org).

    I'm sure the question comes up all the time, over there, and there's bound to be some info on their site.

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  • itdaddyitdaddy Posts: 2,086Member
    HEY GEEKIE

    no static that is why i am using dyndns.org
    cause my ip is dynamic and the client software updates
    (leaving my pc on) the dyndns.org dns server.

    i found dyndns cause i have no static ip cause big bucks to have one.
    so i though i could use dyndns but i think the catch is
    you have to use their child domain setup ie. itdaddy.dyndns.org
    domain name but gphpboy he said he used dyndns.org to setup
    an Exchange server. I wish he would explain how he did that with dyndns.org
    did he use mailhop service to relay mail to his home exhange
    and smtp port forwarding??? i really want to learn this sh$$$ cause
    it is what we IT dudes/dudettes do!
    thanks geekie!
    :)
  • itdaddyitdaddy Posts: 2,086Member
    slowhand,

    so really to use my itdaddy.net registered name i would need a static ip address.

    but to use dyndns.org they asked me to add a host name so i did
    and i got this: itdaddy.dyndns.org name that is resolving my public ip.
    it works just dont know where to setup mx records. but i will look some more.
    they do mention mailhop services that only cost 40.00 a year no really big deal but i am just trying to milk it for what its worth! dont want to miss out on anything free you know my old forum name use to be kingoffree instead of itdaddy...so free is still in me! he hee hee
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    slow hand, i really like your name you coined me that made me laugh
    my head off ; funny stuff you called it spiffy! haahhahhah
    like: itdaddysspiffydomain.dyndns.org. Se
  • SlowhandSlowhand Questionably Benevolent Bay Area, CaliforniaPosts: 5,163Mod Mod
    If you've got itdaddy.dyndns.org, then all you'd really need is for your domain hoster to add MX records that point to a mail server with that domain name. If you're feeling brave, you could try to use the domain you've got registered as the AD domain in your home, and set up a mail.itdaddy.com mail server, then have the hosters point the MX records to that. Although, if they're offering the service, there's probably a reason for it, and they've either blocked you from being able to do that or it's just too tricky to do with the dynamic-to-static voodoo going on with dyndns.org, itself.

    Check and see, bug some of our DNS experts on the forum, and find out if it's possible. At worst, you'd have to shell out the forty bucks per year, but that's pretty cheap in comparison to having hosted mail that points to your domain with some ISP (like the one I work for).

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  • itdaddyitdaddy Posts: 2,086Member
    do with the dynamic-to-static voodoo going on with dyndns.org, itself.


    slowhand: you are way toooo funny;

    but i think you are right! i might have to do the mailhop service with them.
    dyndns way cheaper that whatyou said with ISP dns voodo!

    crap well i can get a poor mans MX server going as long
    as i get to use my mail server. so dyndns.org will just be like they state
    a relay server ( front end) i think and then mine will be a BE backend mail server. i guess this is okay; i hear that is what is standard FE/BE mail servers. as long as i ge to use my own server.
    but i think my MX recored will be @itdaddy.dyndns.org what do you think?
    like it would be [email protected]??

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  • sprkymrksprkymrk Posts: 4,884Member
    ITD -

    I looked at your other post (the one that started this one) and I thought you said you already had the domain itdaddy.net registered. However, when I try to do a lookup on itdaddy.net, nothing comes up. Instead I have to do a lookup for bravehost.itdaddy.net, which returns 65.39.211.104. So it looks like just a subdomain. But when I go to look up your itdaddy.net at a domain registrar (godaddy for example) it shows you do have the domain registered. I think the fact that you are hosting it with bravehost has you somewhat limited. I use 1and1.com to host 3 domains, and none of them are subdomains of 1and1. I would contact bravehost and explain to them that you would like to host your domain on your own server and are going to use dyndns for dns. Then supply dyndns with your home ip (and whatever method they use to automatically update it). Let them know you want both an A record, and an alias (in case they are only going to let you use itdaddy.dyndns.org) of itdaddy.net. If you want to host your own authoritative dns then tell them that as well. They'll set up a dns host record for you, then you can use your own dns server to set up mx and other records.

    In either case, if you are using multiple servers (say one mail, one dns and one www) you would need to do the appropriate port forwarding on your firewall. Send port 53 requests to 192.168.1.2, send port 80 requests to 192.168.1.3, send port 25 to .... etc. If all your hosted services are on 1 machine then just forward all requests there. I am assuming of course that you have a firewall of some sort performing NAT as opposed to just hanging your server on the public IP, which you can also do if using a personal firewall on it.

    There is more to it, but maybe the call to bravenet will be a good place to start. Good luck.
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  • itdaddyitdaddy Posts: 2,086Member
    yeah,

    i have a domain name itdaddy.net registered with bravenet
    but no ns1 nameservers because of my hosting issue.

    but yeah when you check for taken domain sites .com and .net of itdaddy
    are taken and mine is the .net.

    you are right the key is to ask the correct questions to these places
    of which i am learning the public sector; i understand the technology
    just the actual real details of all this;

    i would like to use itdaddy.net in this pure state vs
    itdaddy.dyndns.org but if us upcoming poor IT dudes have to
    geteerrrr done this way; as long as I understand the whole process.

    and yeah, i have this my new Linksys wifi fouter (4 port lan switch)
    vonage super dooper voip layer switch thingy!
    I like linksys (cisco go figre) but before the became a child company of cisco; i like their stuff cause it worked and hardly any issues;
    knwo i have always had issue with netgear and dlink crap i say crap!
    or just bad luck; oh yeah, motorola sucks too; i have no luck with motorola sad; when it use to decent maybe the walk talkies are the best
    hahahahh!

    i will try all this;
    i wonder wear gphpboy is??//?he said he set up a mail server with
    dyndns where are you gphpboy!
    how did you do it? can you tell us all????
    thanks dudes! and big guy spkymrk!

    :D

    frustrating all this but very very fun stuff play play play!

    ps. not sure i am going to like all this virtual software coming down the pipe though; vmware seems easier or funner to use tham MS$$
    virtual software just getting into that as well
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