Question 16..... IPP Printing

pjc4real

Hi there. After reviewing qu.16, I am baffled. It asks:

16. You want to share a printer on your Windows XP Professional client named Wrkst12, to allow IPP clients to print documents across the Internet. You installed PWS, shared the printer under the name Printer01, and set the appropriate permissions. What is the correct URL users should use to connect to the printer by using the Add Printer wizard?
a. http://Wrkst12/Printers/Printer01/.printer
b. http://Wrkst12/Printer01/.printer
c. http://Wrkst12/Printer01/
d. http://Wrkst12/Printers/Printer01/
e. http://Printer01/

And sates that the answer is:

a. http://Wrkst12/Printers/Printer01/.printer


But according to the Microsoft website (and what I've always thought), shouldnt the answer be:

c. http://Wrkst12/Printer01/

http://printserver/printers

Webmaster

The key part of this questions is "by using the Add Printer Wizard"

pjc4real

Oh I SEE - thats my problem, I don't READ properly..! Thanx mate

4SG

I’m still a little confused on this one. I’ve done numerous searches and most of them say you connect using http://PrintServerName/PrinterName. Yet I see the example on the Add Printer Wizard is http://server/printer/myprinter/.printer .

But even the XP Pro help files say:

“If you know the printer's URL you can use the Add Printer Wizard to add the printer using its URL rather than typing its name in the Uniform Naming Convention (UNC) format: \\printserver_name\share_name. When the wizard prompts for the printer name, just enter the printer's URL, in the format, http://PrintServerName/PrinterName.”

Am I missing something? Or can you enter it either way?

Webmaster

Don't you just hate it when even MS isn't consequent

Your quote is from the To connect to a printer using a browser topic in Windows XP Help right?

In the To connect to a printer on a network it says:

Connect to an Internet or intranet printer.

Using a printer’s URL allows you to connect to a printer across the Internet, provided you have permission to use that printer. If you cannot connect to the printer using the general URL format below, please see your printer's documentation or contact your network administrator.

Click Connect to a printer on the Internet or on your intranet.
Type the URL to the printer using the following format:
http://printserver_name/Printers/share_name/.printer

I've only tried one method, but honestly it would not suprise me if the other method would work as well. However, it wouldn't suprise me if the note you quoted is incorrect in the help files (that help topic is about connecting to a printer by using a web browser, and suddenly they talk about Add Printer Wizard. Anyway, there's only one way to find out. I'll install IIS on one of my XP machines and let you know the results.

D-boy

URL & UNC are 2 diffenet things am I right?





Another key part of the question is that it says "URL" & not "UNC".

"What is the correct URL users should use to connect to the printer by using the Add Printer wizard?"
If it is asking for "URL" it would be d. http://Wrkst12/Printers/Printer01/


and if it was asking "What is the correct UNC users should use to connect to the printer by using the Add Printer wizard?" It would be c. http://Wrkst12/Printer01/


Someone correct me if i'm wrong!

D-boy

Webmaster

D-boy wrote:

URL & UNC are 2 diffenet things am I right?

Right, but that is not the issue. Compare my screenshot with 4SG's quote from the help files and my quote. The problem is that MS contradicts itself with the URL that should be used to connect to an IPP printer by using the Add Printer Wizard.

D-boy

Micro$oft....


Below from a Windows 2000 help file:

To connect to a printer using a browser

Open Internet Explorer.
You can also use any other window or folder with an address bar, such as the Printers folder, Windows Explorer, or My Computer.

In the Address bar, type one of the following:
If you don't know the printer's name, type using the format: http://PrintServerName/printers/
For example type http://W2KPrintSrv1/printers to receive a page listing all the printers located on print server W2KPrinterSrv1, and then click the printer you want to use.

If you know the printer's name, type its URL using the format: http://PrintServerName/PrinterName/
For example type http://W2KPrintSrv1/HPColor5/ to go directly to that printer page.

When viewing the printer's page, click Connect under Printer Actions to connect to that printer.
Windows 2000 automatically copies the appropriate printer driver to your computer and the icon for the printer appears in your Printers folder.

Notes

To open Printers, click Start, point to Settings, and then click Printers.
If you know the printer's URL you can use the Add Printer wizard to add the printer using its URL rather than typing its name in the Uniform Naming Convention (UNC) format: \\printserver_name\share_name. When the wizard prompts for the printer name, just enter the printer's URL, in the format, http://PrintServerName/PrinterName.
From the printer's URL page, you can view information such as the printer model, the printer's location, and the number of documents waiting to print, as well as properties such as print speed and whether the printer supports color printing. You can pause, resume, and cancel printing of any document you have sent to the printer. If you have the Manage Printers permission for the printer, you can also pause or resume operation of the printer. For information about printing security permissions, see Related Topics.
For Internet printing, you must have IIS installed on the server [or Peer Web Services (PWS) on Windows 2000 Professional].
You must use Internet Explorer (IE) version 4.0 or higher to connect to a printer.
After you connect to a shared printer from a Web browser, you can use it as if it were attached to your computer. You can also add it to your browser Favorites.
Related Topics

Webmaster

Although there was no need to quote the entire topic , I see it's the same in Windows 2000 help. The topic, you are looking at is connecting to a printer by using a web browser. While I'm refering to Connect to a printer on the network.

D-boy wrote:

and if it was asking "What is the correct UNC users should use to connect to the printer by using the Add Printer wizard?" It would be c. http://Wrkst12/Printer01/

Someone correct me if i'm wrong!

That is still and URL. An UNC path does not start with http:// hence all the answers in my practice question are URLs. The UNC path would be \\Wrkst12\Printer01

Webmaster

Ok, I just tried it out and the short version of the URL does NOT work, it results in an error message "printer not found on server", while the long version http://Wrkst12/Printers/Printer01/.printer works perfectly.

4SG

Thanks for the info Webmaster.
My quote was from the To connect to a printer using a browser topic in Windows XP Help.
So is the long version http://Wrkst12/Printers/Printer01/.printer the URL that would be typed into the Add Printer Wizard from the system running IIS and other clients can then connect to it from the short form http://Wrkst12/Printer01 directly from a web browser? Or am I still a little off.

Webmaster

If you would use that short version in a web browser, you would open the printer in a web browser and get similar options as when opening the printer in Printers and Faxes (see the queue, pause and resume documents, etc, etc). There will be a 'Connect' option that allows a user the install and connect to the printer.

The long version of the URL is used to install and connect to the printer from the Add Printer Wizard. This is only appropriate when you want to print thru IPP (a print server running IIS). Normally you would use the UNC path \\wrkst12\printer

I hope this clears it up.

4SG

Thanks Webmaster – all’s clear. Funny thing is, the MS Training Kit and Exam Cram2 don’t mention the long version. I don’t think the Training Kit mentions IPP at all. I see it’s in the Technotes.

I think that one XP Help file needs some help.

Thanks again

Webmaster

You're welcome

Funny thing is, the MS Training Kit and Exam Cram2 don’t mention the long version. I don’t think the Training Kit mentions IPP at all. I see it’s in the Technotes.

That proves again they need to take a closer look at the 'Skills being measured by the 70-270 exam', as the following item is one of them:

- Connect to an Internet printer.

www.microsoft.com/learning/exams/70-270.asp

Mishra

Has anyone seen this question on the actual MS test?

Webmaster

Of course not. These are original practice questions written be me. You won't find any actual exam questions on this site.

Mishra

Webmaster wrote:

Of course not. These are original practice questions written be me. You won't find any actual exam questions on this site.

I suppose I didn't answer the right question. I'm more curious if there are questions about how to connect to shared printers, or if the questions are more driven toward spooling/grouped printers/etc...

Webmaster

Current related exam objectives for the 70-270 exam:

www.microsoft.com/learning/exams/70-270.mspx

Implementing and Conducting Administration of Resources:

Connect to local and network print devices.
- Manage printers and print jobs.
- Control access to printers by using permissions.
- Connect to an Internet printer.
- Connect to a local print device.

Based on your question, it seems you aren't using a proper study guide or similar to prepare for this exam. I suggest you get the Microsoft Training Kit for 70-270 and, visit the following often:
www.techexams.net/microsoft/70-270.shtml

Either way, the exam objectives I linked to, or the "Skills Being Measured" as MS calls them should be your main guide.