2 hours away...

bard329

so i'm taking 70-270 in about 2 hours. it's my first MS exam. i've been studying using ****, testout and the microsoft mcsa/mcse test prep kit (all material given to me in a class i signed up for).

so wish me luck, guys

ajs1976

Were did you take the class?

boyles23

I tend to think that the big xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx across your screen means you been using a ****. I am curious also, what/where was the class you took?

12mcken

bard329 wrote:

so i'm taking 70-270 in about 2 hours. it's my first MS exam. i've been studying using xxxxxxxxxxxx, testout and the microsoft mcsa/mcse test prep kit (all material given to me in a class i signed up for).

so wish me luck, guys

Good Luck on the 70-270 , but please don't tell me you used Brain **** as one of your study materials.

ITdude

Depressing but unfortunately a reality!

rcasey

Good Luck!! I'm taking it Saturday so let me know how it was!

bard329

i was unaware that particular method was frowned upon. can someone explain to me why that is? it was recommended to me

snadam

wikipedia.org wrote:

In the IT industry, a 'brain ****', usually spelled as a compound word braindump, refers to material that has been memorized, or captured electronically by means of a small device such as a PDA or cell phone with a built in camera, from an IT certification and re-created to provide an almost exact replica of the exam, thus violating most but not all non-disclosure agreement's agreed to prior to the administration an exam.[1] Examinees are often encouraged to remove their personal items other than their identification prior to an exam.[2]


In certification exams

The phrase "brain ****" refers to confidential information relating to examinations which is obtained by examinees who memorize, then "****" (record) the information after the examination. Brain **** are most commonly found amongst IT certification exams mainly because the exams are expensive, difficult to pass, and the questions rarely change. These type of brain **** are actual exam questions and answers that users will memorize prior to taking (or sitting for) an exam.

Brain **** of this sort often constitute cheating because the information acquired was generally taken from material that was meant to remain secure, or information copyrighted or registered as trade secrets. Many of the larger corporations, such as Microsoft, have recently begun fighting back against the companies that mass-produce brain ****.

full article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_****



Long story short, its cheating and not taking lightly in this community.

bard329

hmm... that is very interesting... i was not aware.

i think i may have to bring something up next class

sprkymrk

bard329 wrote:

hmm... that is very interesting... i was not aware.

i think i may have to bring something up next class

Please do us all a favor and tell the testing center in no uncertain terms that you are disappointed by their endorsement of brain ****. I did so at a particular test center I went to and the instructor was speechless, he had never had someone complain about that before. As a matter of fact, it was what he used to pass most of his exams.

Later, the school asked me to use my MCP status as a referral for them (they need x amount to continue being considered a MS "Partner" or something) and I turned them down flat for the same reason. They understood at that point how strongly I felt about it, and they then asked if I would ever consider taking another class at their training center, to which I replied if they drop the **** I would consider it.

bard329

sprkymrk wrote:

bard329 wrote:

hmm... that is very interesting... i was not aware.

i think i may have to bring something up next class

Please do us all a favor and tell the testing center in no uncertain terms that you are disappointed by their endorsement of brain ****. I did so at a particular test center I went to and the instructor was speechless, he had never had someone complain about that before. As a matter of fact, it was what he used to pass most of his exams.

Later, the school asked me to use my MCP status as a referral for them (they need x amount to continue being considered a MS "Partner" or something) and I turned them down flat for the same reason. They understood at that point how strongly I felt about it, and they then asked if I would ever consider taking another class at their training center, to which I replied if they drop the **** I would consider it.

yea now that i know all this and i did a bit of reading up on it on my own, i think i know a little better. i definately won't be signing up for any more classes with them but since this current one isnt over just yet i have no choice but to continue it since it's already paid for

snadam

bard329 wrote:

hmm... that is very interesting... i was not aware.

i think i may have to bring something up next class

Sounds like your response is genuine, so ill let you off the hook

but seriously, you have a class that actually endorsed this? wow.

jbaello

Is transcenders considered a XXX?

sprkymrk

jbaello wrote:

Is transcenders considered a XXX?

No, they don't use questions stolen from the real exams.

snadam

jbaello wrote:

Is transcenders considered a XXX?

nope transcenders are OK...if you really want to know, there is a nifty site that you can check companies to see if they are legit or not. I belive its http://certguard.com


BTW did that guy PASS?

bard329

snadam wrote:

bard329 wrote:

hmm... that is very interesting... i was not aware.

i think i may have to bring something up next class

Sounds like your response is genuine, so ill let you off the hook

but seriously, you have a class that actually endorsed this? wow.

thank you. your forgiveness means so much to me.

like i said, i'm new to all these classes and certifications. i had no idea. apparently no one else in class did either.