Material that covers the difference between -801 and -802...

r_durant

Does anyone know if there's material that just covers the differences between the two exams?

Instead of one having to put the blueprints side by side and then pick out the differences...

I'm doubting there is material, but just thought I'd ask...

Or, I should ask if the differences are covered in the CCNP courses?

networker050184

Instead of one having to put the blueprints side by side and then pick out the differences...

Wow, thats a whole new level of laziness... I don't know of any document that lays it all out. All the concepts from the 802 are on the CCNP but in more depth.

tech-airman

r_durant wrote:

Does anyone know if there's material that just covers the differences between the two exams?

Instead of one having to put the blueprints side by side and then pick out the differences...

I'm doubting there is material, but just thought I'd ask...

Or, I should ask if the differences are covered in the CCNP courses?

r_durant,

Each material is designed for the end goal of each exam. So 640-801 CCNA material has as it's goal the 640-801 CCNA exam. The 640-802 CCNA material has as it's goal the 640-802 CCNA exam. You'd have to do the work of finding out what the blueprint differences are between the two exams. However, even if you find out the differences, you'd probably end up having to get the 640-802 CCNA materials since it should have both the common and difference materials.

mattsthe2

our intstrutor said that its very similar just a few bits taken off and few bits added.
The CCNA hasnt really changed over the years.
In my class i had a guy that was a '01 grad of the CCNA and he was taking a refresher course for the 801. He said the meat of the CCNA hasnt changed just a different flavour of gravy.

I.E IGRP removed - add wireless.
Now im sure theres many more topics but thats my take.

dtlokee

mattsthe2 wrote:

our intstrutor said that its very similar just a few bits taken off and few bits added.
The CCNA hasnt really changed over the years.
In my class i had a guy that was a '01 grad of the CCNA and he was taking a refresher course for the 801. He said the meat of the CCNA hasnt changed just a different flavour of gravy.

I.E IGRP removed - add wireless.
Now im sure theres many more topics but thats my take.

The CCNA has changed dramatically since 2001, no more IPX and Appletalk, far more emphsis on subnetting, and in 2001 switch configuration wasn't even a topic, just things like cut-through, store and forward, fragment free, and a host on one VLAN can't ping a host on another VLAN without a router.

The biggest changes with the CCNA courses seem to be around the ideas of troubleshooting. They added more topics of course (wireless, IPv6, VPN, more security) but there seems to more emphisis on troubleshooting and interpreting the output of various show and debug commands. THere is even a rumor they will remove "show run" from the simulators. If you have been studying for the current exam and doing lab work it won't be much of a jump to the new stuff.

mattsthe2

dtlokee wrote:

mattsthe2 wrote:

our intstrutor said that its very similar just a few bits taken off and few bits added.
The CCNA hasnt really changed over the years.
In my class i had a guy that was a '01 grad of the CCNA and he was taking a refresher course for the 801. He said the meat of the CCNA hasnt changed just a different flavour of gravy.

I.E IGRP removed - add wireless.
Now im sure theres many more topics but thats my take.

The CCNA has changed dramatically since 2001, no more IPX and Appletalk, far more emphsis on subnetting, and in 2001 switch configuration wasn't even a topic, just things like cut-through, store and forward, fragment free, and a host on one VLAN can't ping a host on another VLAN without a router.

The biggest changes with the CCNA courses seem to be around the ideas of troubleshooting. They added more topics of course (wireless, IPv6, VPN, more security) but there seems to more emphisis on troubleshooting and interpreting the output of various show and debug commands. THere is even a rumor they will remove "show run" from the simulators. If you have been studying for the current exam and doing lab work it won't be much of a jump to the new stuff.

oh cool, i'll take what he said with a pinch of salt.

r_durant

networker050184 wrote:

Wow, thats a whole new level of laziness... I don't know of any document that lays it all out.

I didn't say I wouldn't do it, I just didn't want to re-invent the wheel...If there was something out there, why go through all the trouble...I probably didn't ask/explain it the right way...

networker050184 wrote:

All the concepts from the 802 are on the CCNP but in more depth.

But since they're call overed in the CCNP, that's all fine and dandy...