Penetration Testing TV Series Coming

It should star Keatron...

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I hope it's a lot better than those ghost hunting TV shows that feature a bunch of idiots running around doing essentially nothing. A lot of software and network testing is very tedious, repetitive, boring, and unglamorous. It will take more than a few fast camera shots of Justin Long driving a Midnight Blue Jetta to make such a show like that interesting.

dynamik

Do any of you guys watch Hak.5? It's not pen testing or anything serious., but it's often entertaining and interesting. It's a nice departure from studying, every once in awhile.

Schluep

I think the poster from the site listed said it very well:

kdawson wrote:

Wonder how they socially engineer away the presence of a camera team in the air vents.

An entire camera crew hanging around by the dumpster, in the lobby, shining lights on people picking locks, and talking to people trying to gain information. The only glamerous parts (physical entry and socal engineering) will have to be completely unrealistic. The software and network testing that consumes most of the time is nothing fun to show on a reality show.

Personally I don't expect it to be anything accurate or interesting, but we will have to see. The fact that it airs at 11:00 and 11:30 p.m. on Christmas day doesn't make it sound like they have much faith in it either.

mog27

JDMurray wrote:

I hope it's a lot better than those ghost hunting TV shows that feature a bunch of idiots running around doing essentially nothing. A lot of software and network testing is very tedious, repetitive, boring, and unglamorous. It will take more than a few fast camera shots of Justin Long driving a Midnight Blue Jetta to make such a show like that interesting.

I hope you aren't talking about Ghost Hunters. Im a huge fan of the show.

Ahriakin

JDMurray wrote:

I hope it's a lot better than those ghost hunting TV shows that feature a bunch of idiots running around doing essentially nothing.

"Whats that (shake camera), in there...inside the monitor (peers closely, obscures camera view, jumps back)...was that a Virus...I dunno man, this has me worried (2 presenters look at each other in Soap-Opera worthy silence, hand stretches towards keyboard)...I can sense a keylogger too, it's old...and very angry...do you see that (camera whips around in a blur)..." rinse, repeat....

[rabid opinion]
There's no such thing as reality TV, it's cheap scripted/edited crap.

[/rabid opinion]

keatron

Ahriakin wrote:

JDMurray wrote:

I hope it's a lot better than those ghost hunting TV shows that feature a bunch of idiots running around doing essentially nothing.

"Whats that (shake camera), in there...inside the monitor (peers closely, obscures camera view, jumps back)...was that a Virus...I dunno man, this has me worried (2 presenters look at each other in Soap-Opera worthy silence, hand stretches towards keyboard)...I can sense a keylogger too, it's old...and very angry...do you see that (camera whips around in a blur)..." rinse, repeat....

[rabid opinion]
There's no such thing as reality TV, it's cheap scripted/edited crap.
[/rabid opinion]

That's funny...

JDMurray

Ahriakin wrote:

[rabid opinion]
There's no such thing as reality TV, it's cheap scripted/edited crap.
[/rabid opinion]

Knowing something about how TV shows are produced, I would have to say that is this my basic sentiment too. There's something disingenuous about how those shows market themselves. However, most people know nothing of how their favorite TV shows are created, and therefore will happily believe that it's all real. (Survivor is faked? NO WAY!!!)

mog27 wrote:

I hope you aren't talking about Ghost Hunters. Im a huge fan of the show.

Yeah, I was a big fan of Scooby Doo too.

Schluep

You mean in real life there aren't 50 people looking to date someone at the same time? I'm sure the owner of a fantastic site like this would have that kind of popularity

JDMurray wrote:

(Survivor is faked? NO WAY!!!)

That is like telling some people:

1. The government doesn't hide little green aliens that came out of UFOs

2. JFK is not alive and hiding in the white house, nor was he attacked by 250 people at once while putting the blame on someone codenamed "The Lone Ranger" and arrested as Lee Harvey Oswald.

3. NASA didn't fake the moon landing

4. Paul isn't dead

Evidence doesn't matter to some people. I come across all of the above examples and couldn't make any headway.

keatron

I'll be interested in seeing who these elite are. If you want to see elite, go to blackhat or defcon, and I ain't talking the presentations either. The real presentations goes on in peoples rooms.

mog27

Anyone catch the show? Pretty darn impressive what they did in those two episodes.

Schluep

mog27 wrote:

Anyone catch the show? Pretty darn impressive what they did in those two episodes.

I was planning on it but didn't get back until late after being out with my family and went straight to bed when I got home. I forgot all about it until I saw your post just now. Would you mind filling those of us that missed it in on what they actually did? I didn't expect much but am rather curious to find out.

dynamik

http://www.courttv.com/onair/shows/red/red_player.html?id=870&link=REDshlk

mog27

I want to see an episode where they get caught and the cops get them. I don't think they have ever gotten caught though?

keatron

I did manage to TiVo an episode. It pretty realistic as far as the steps involved and physical and social aspect of it. What I would like to see is an episode where they test a company that actually has people on staff who is at least somewhat security concious. A car dealership? Seriously. And I can tell you another thing too. If a company has a real security policy and are security concioius, the "elite" group on the show would NEVER get permission to put the pen test on Court TV. From what I saw in that series, luxury car dealership security reminds me of casino security; Physical security = world class, computer security = horrible.

snadam

keatron wrote:

If a company has a real security policy and are security concioius, the "elite" group on the show would NEVER get permission to put the pen test on Court TV.

I was thinking the same thing...

mog27

When is this show coming on again? I can't find it on my TV guide. Did they just show two episodes and that's all? I thought it was a regular weekday series.

seuss_ssues

snadam wrote:

keatron wrote:

If a company has a real security policy and are security concioius, the "elite" group on the show would NEVER get permission to put the pen test on Court TV.

I was thinking the same thing...

Yeah, i watched that episode and thought, wow thanks guys you did all the recon for me. I now know what is locked, where motion sensors are, what type of locks to be prepared to pick, great video of the store layout, etc, etc ,etc...

JDMurray

I guess TruTV (formerly CourtTV) decided not to make the Tiger Team show into a series. Both of the episodes are considered TV specials and no more are planned. From what I've read in blogs, people in the InfoSec community are not happy with the show's demise and are complaining using the Contact Us form at TruTV.

mog27

JDMurray wrote:

I guess TruTV (formerly CourtTV) decided not to make the Tiger Team show into a series. Both of the episodes are considered TV specials and no more are planned. From what I've read in blogs, people in the InfoSec community are not happy with the show's demise and are complaining using the Contact Us form at TruTV.

Yeah I liked the show. Sucks that they can't make it into a weekly series. About the only show on that channel I liked.

JDMurray

One fatal flaw in that show was not having a hot, geek chic babe as part of that team. Kari Byron of Mythbusters is the sort they need. Forcing the TV audience to look at three ugly guys for 22 minutes just doesn't cut it these days.

mog27

JDMurray wrote:

One fatal flaw in that show was not having a hot, geek chic babe as part of that team. Kari Byron of Mythbusters is the sort they need. Forcing the TV audience to look at three ugly guys for 22 minutes just doesn't cut it these days.

hah, yeah, I didn't think of that. Even those tech shows on the old TechTV/ZDTV had at least one female that was nice to look at.

JDMurray

mog27 wrote:

Even those tech shows on the old TechTV/ZDTV had at least one female that was nice to look at.

Those tech shows launched the careers of many a news babe: The Lovely Ladies of TechTV

Natali Del Conte on the TeXtra PodShow is also a tech-savvy babe that would do well on the Tiger Team show.

sprkymrk

I haven't heard Kim's radio show in years, but this thread reminded me of it. She would be a good candidate too.

http://www.komando.com/about/

Schluep

sprkymrk wrote:

I haven't heard Kim's radio show in years, but this thread reminded me of it. She would be a good candidate too.

http://www.komando.com/about/

She is on our FM talk station in Pittsburgh every Saturday evening. I don't know the exact time slot but heard her a few weeks ago on my way home. Seemed to be highly focused toward basic hardware/software issues that callers were having.

seuss_ssues

A talented good looking female would have a much easier time social engineering a guy.

Ive notice that when i get telemarketer calls i listen longer if its a girl and even longer still if she has a nice accent.

famosbrown

I wanted to watch these shows. No plans to re-air? Any links to online footage?

dynamik

That link I posted earlier goes to their video site. It looks like the first one has been moved back to the third page under new videos. I'm not sure if the second one is on there or not.

famosbrown

Thanks dynamik. I didn't even bother going thorugh the other pages. Pretty cool stuff...thought I would see more I.T. related penetration, but good enough