Government is just government, whoever gets in they will play it the way they see it. Just dont get played. Many people in IT now will be out of the industry in 5 years time, others will not. Think laterally and position yourself accordingly to give yourself the best chance of longivity!
web transcript links ready and I carry my CompTIA cards in my binder. And nobody has ever asked to see them.
Scott LaRock wrote: »
I work as a Security Guard in a very large building occuiped by 3 well known banks, it's a 12 story building.
One company (I won't say the name) takes up about 7 floors in the building. They have about 200 total computers and they have 1 I.T guy who does all the work.
Not to complain but I see this more and more these days. It seems companies don't need as many I.T guys as before, only 1 guy to do it all.
I mean, I only have a 2 year and a couple certs and while I won't say I'm high level, I have a hard time getting a help desk job.
With my certs I should be a Desktop Support Tech... doing basic work with installing hard drives, light networking and so forth and I never get looked upon for this type of position. I've had a couple light contracts here and there but nothing permanent.
I think for those who want to stay in I.T, it's best to aim big, you have to be able to do something that everyone else can't. The truth is that companies just don't need multiple admins anyone of a whole bunch of programmers.
Only 1 or 2 and they'll lay off everyone else... sad but true, they just don't need the people anymore.
gorebrush wrote: »
Have to agree with Scott, but I'm finding that this "one man fits all" approach is starting to get tiresome for me.
I have worked professionally in IT since 2004, and at the beginning of 2006 I got my first Systems Administrator gig. I loved it - I was the techie that everyone looked to for looking after the network. I think I learned more in those two years I was there than at any other job/cert/degree I've done. Nothing makes you learn better than two years in at the deep end.
I looked after 11 Windows 2000 servers, Exchange 2000 (Which I upgraded to 2003), networking, routers, the domain, everything. I even project managed, designed, co-ordinated an office move of 90 people, all the servers, computers, networking the lot.
I came here and within two years went from knowing very little about Cisco to being on my way to a CCIE.
You can learn so much from a job, but as I've been trying to move jobs, I'm finding that employers are starting to get greedy and ask for what is comparatively, an absolute shopping list of skills and no doubt I'll fail to get a job because somebody (amazingly) will have one or two more skills than me.
While I've enjoyed being a jack of all trades, I'm tired of it now - and would love to be able to walk into an environment where I am just doing one thing - Cisco. However, I don't think the job market is really catering for someone like me right now with the recession etc.
I think I seriously need to consider contracting - I have specific skill sets which I know I can market and offer as a service to many smaller businesses, and my wide range of skill sets mean I could potentially be marketable to many more single businesses as opposed to offering a single skill set to a smaller number.
I think I am starting to gain confidence about actually going out there and doing it - however while the going is good at my current permanent job (and that's another rant I'll save for another post), I'm racking up the CCIE hours and banking the money, making sure my bills are paid.
itdaddy wrote: »
I had never heard that one another good one is Obamination! haha
but Odumbo is my favorite ahahhahahahahaa ahaah
yep demcrats are going to mess it up taking away competition.
I have said why can't we make health care like car insurance. My policy is renewed every 6 months and once the 6 month contract is over I can pick any car insurance I want that gives me a good deal? why cant we do that with health care?
US has always had great health care noone is denied just a huge bill in return?
It is about the cost not the care? huh democrats? huh?
Like Rush Limbau said our health care is fantastic anyone in America will get the best health care it is just they charge so much in return. what we need is competition in health care not governemnt controlling what we do.
It is so obvious what to do....competition drives prices to be more fair and makes the big guys who want to rake us dry think 2x.
how governemnt is so stupid sometimes!...
it_consultant wrote: »
Linux admins worth there salt have CRON jobs that do all the regular maintenance that used to be performed manually.
westward wrote: »
I was going to post a "what are the reality of entry level IT jobs for me in 6 months" thread..
I'll start by adding to this.
I had thought that me being generally useful in IT (but not yet specialized, as I have no job in the field) was not a good thing at all, but in a way it sounds like a few of you are saying is that, since any one specialty can often be partly automated, you need to fill 40 hours a week doing multiple things.
Those of you experienced in the field - would I be correct in saying that, compared to 10 years ago, more of your job (say in programming) is spent interacting with coworkers ABOUT the project at hand, and less is spent actually programming?
Using netbeans to program java for class, I see so much of the script happens automatically. It took me 50% of my time planning a "coin counter" script, 20% scripting it, and the rest just testing it.
PS: Just my thoughts as a soon-to-graduate person wondering why every job I see is "senior" this or "chief" that, and wondering who these senior chiefs are actually managing if there's no true entry level jobs....
fredlwal wrote: »
Since companies are having a hard time to fill positions why don't they start apprenticeship programs in the IT field. Has anyone ever heard of apprenticeship program just for IT?
Turgon wrote: »
Globalization and corporate policies will fill the positions by third party at home or overseas.
If people want long term careers in IT they have to start thinking strategically i.e 5 years hence. There will be no apprenticeships except for stellar graduates who will be on fasttrack careers and have no time to post on TE.
fredlwal wrote: »
Well, that means I have to keep my face in the books 24 hours a day with no life at all, just to stay up on new technology. I just read an article the other day that project managment is the best thing to move toward since all you do is make sure resources get the job done while you direct them for that short time.
ubermich wrote: »
Relating to all of the posts about being a "jack of all trades," how do you advertise that you are or can be this without job experience? Using myself as an example, I messed up BAD 7 years ago. I took the Cisco CCNA course in high school, which includes a FREE CCNA exam at the end... I didn't go take the test. I could have also easily passed the A+ at that time... I didn't throw down the cash to go take the test. (Bottom line, I didn't want to work IT because my mom was a burnt-out IT professional who always complained about the job. I was going to school for engineering, because that was going to be sooo different! ) I started engineering school, then dropped out 2 years later because I figured out engineering wasn't going to be any different and I would never be confined to a desk! (Ah the fruits of youthful idealism.) So what did I do? I went to go work in a warehouse. After 2 months I went from packing boxes to driving a forklift. 1 year later I left to go work on cars. Without any schooling, I went from an apprentice to a full-blood tech in 6 months, ASE master certified in 2 years (had all of my tests done in 1 year, well before the 2 year experience min was met), and was almost GM World Class certified by the time I moved jobs 3.5 years in (another 3 months and I would have been the youngest GM World Class tech ever, my good friend holds that title instead). I transitioned to Lexus and was promoted in under 30 days. Received "Technician of the Quarter" 3 months later. The bottom line being, I can learn... fast, even if I don't have experience in that particular task or flavor (Lexus, Saab, and Cadillac are three very different beasts, never mind driving forklifts vs. serving food at a retirement home).
These things on a resume look like career-hopping, but really it's just looking for something more challenging or realizing I had reached the top of the ladder. I was never going to be anything more than a forklift driver at the warehouse, or grease monkey at the dealerships. So now I'm going back to take my certs and try to break into an IT career where things are always changing and I can help people. In my opinion, I have all of the right components as far as experience (hobby, small network maint @ the retirement home where I was in food service, CCNA course), customer service (food service, dealership customer interactions), time management (self-employed currently), drive (all of the above, illustrated by my desire to reach GM World Class, something very few techs ever do), and willingness to learn (all of the above). In others' opinions, I look like a job-hopper with no vision, no degree, and no work experience who will eat up a bunch of resources and provide no output.
I'm going to start trying with local computer shops, as suggested earlier in this thread, but really hope someone here has some insight into breaking the assumptions that come from topping out in multiple low-grade fields.
Also, back on the subject of braindumpz. Is this just the practice tests made up of questions people memorize while taking the actual test? If so, and if someone has studied (ie. read through Sybex, Meyers, built custom setups for decades, practiced less-common actions such as older versions of windows & command prompt), what is the harm in this? Noting, obviously, that this is not always the case and someone could just memorize answers and that would be ethically wrong.
Turgon wrote: »
Most large shops have tools teams dedicated to automation these days.
halflife78 wrote: »
Wow, I just found this site after forever and didn't realize my original thread was still stickied. Hope this helped a few people over the years, I may need to give an update on where I am now since this.