faisal79 wrote: its ok mate yes i do i undersatnd Internet printing protocol, NTFS permisstion (still rereading it at moment) i also do understand how permisstion change when moving or copy files within a same partition or different partition, that when you copy either within a partition or different partition will inharit the destanations permition, and moving to same partition will retain permisstion where moving to different partition will inharit the destations permition offcourse this is all true for only NTFS and not for FAT where all NTFS permission will be lot... please correct me if im wrong thanks