Which InfoSec Certs are fluff?

ITEducationProITEducationPro Member Posts: 6 ■□□□□□□□□□
Friends,

I have been in the business of IT Education for more than 10 years but require the feedback from professionals like you!

Do any of you feel that the certification you have recently completed was all "theory" and no "applied knowledge"? Do you feel any of the Certs are all "marketing" and will provide no "real-world" value and if so, which one(s)?

And inversely, which Certs do you feel provide the greatest "real-world" value?

I would especially like to hear from the pro's that may hold certifications such as CISSP or C/EH for example?

Best, Brad

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  • LarryDaManLarryDaMan Member Posts: 797
    I get the feeling we are being used for a survey.

    Do we atleast get a prize?

    Can you pretend to be our friend for a few days first?

    I feel used. icon_eek.gif
  • Paul BozPaul Boz Member Posts: 2,621 ■■■■■■■■□□
    All of the people I know with the CISSP claim it has helped their career immensely. I think that is because ISC2 goes through such a lengthy verification process to ensure that people who hold the CISSP are knowledgeable and experienced security engineers. As far as I know, no other security certifications offer that level of guarantee.

    The cisco security offerings are also very well reputed but they're extremely specific to Cisco so unless you work in implementation with cisco devices your time is probably better pent elsewhere.
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  • ITEducationProITEducationPro Member Posts: 6 ■□□□□□□□□□
    Paul,

    Thanks for your feedback.

    The reason for my inquiry was because I recently have shared quite a few conversations from pros looking to "bridge the gap" on the theoretical with a greater focus on the applied knowledge. Coincidentally, many hold the certifications you are speaking of.

    Thanks again! Brad
  • shednikshednik Member Posts: 2,005
    Paul Boz wrote:
    All of the people I know with the CISSP claim it has helped their career immensely. I think that is because ISC2 goes through such a lengthy verification process to ensure that people who hold the CISSP are knowledgeable and experienced security engineers. As far as I know, no other security certifications offer that level of guarantee.

    The cisco security offerings are also very well reputed but they're extremely specific to Cisco so unless you work in implementation with cisco devices your time is probably better pent elsewhere.

    In addition to Paul's comments I'd like to add one more certification the GSE from SANS which makes you go through a quite intense hands on lab exam for the cert...

    http://www.giac.org/certifications/gse.php
  • dynamikdynamik Banned Posts: 12,314 ■■■■■■■■□□
    shednik wrote:
    Paul Boz wrote:
    All of the people I know with the CISSP claim it has helped their career immensely. I think that is because ISC2 goes through such a lengthy verification process to ensure that people who hold the CISSP are knowledgeable and experienced security engineers. As far as I know, no other security certifications offer that level of guarantee.

    The cisco security offerings are also very well reputed but they're extremely specific to Cisco so unless you work in implementation with cisco devices your time is probably better pent elsewhere.

    In addition to Paul's comments I'd like to add one more certification the GSE from SANS which makes you go through a quite intense hands on lab exam for the cert...

    http://www.giac.org/certifications/gse.php

    Oh yea, for sure!

    Regarding the OP, I kind of think the EC Council certs are more fun than anything. Not that I'm not going to go for them or anything :D
  • susanjsusanj Member Posts: 5 ■□□□□□□□□□
    shednik wrote:
    Paul Boz wrote:
    All of the people I know with the CISSP claim it has helped their career immensely. I think that is because ISC2 goes through such a lengthy verification process to ensure that people who hold the CISSP are knowledgeable and experienced security engineers. As far as I know, no other security certifications offer that level of guarantee.

    The cisco security offerings are also very well reputed but they're extremely specific to Cisco so unless you work in implementation with cisco devices your time is probably better pent elsewhere.

    In addition to Paul's comments I'd like to add one more certification the GSE from SANS which makes you go through a quite intense hands on lab exam for the cert...

    http://www.giac.org/certifications/gse.php


    I passed ISMCP at http://www.infinidox.com but you have to propose a proctor and they will verify your proctor references. There is no mandatory experience required but the exam itself is difficult enough.
    Security+, CISA, Infinidox ISMCP
  • lacto17lacto17 Member Posts: 18 ■□□□□□□□□□
    Hi
    Can you please explain in deatail about INFINIDOX Certifications ? Like How critical the questions were ? Are there any simulation kond of questions ? Any other views..

    Thanks & Regards
    Karthik.
    Thanks & Regards
    Karthik.
  • GAngelGAngel Member Posts: 708
    CISSP.
    But its good for your resume. Very well marketed fluff i suppose. CEH was a waste of time for me as well but so were a dozen other certs I hold. The only staff I hire based on certs are cisco related and a few giac certs. Those are the only ones i trust to show the candidate actually has exactly what i'm looking for.
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