A quadruple CCIE

This is the first time I've ever heard of (or seen for that matter) a person holding 4 CCIE's and a score of other high-level technical certifications. It makes me wonder!

Does this guy just literally have too much knowledge (I mean... the stuff can clog it self up at some point, right?)? 4 CCIE's, oh my God!:

http://smorris.uber-geek.net

If you're surprised with his resume, check out his four rack lab!

http://smorris.uber-geek.net/lab.htm

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Ten9t6

2lazybutsmart wrote:

Although this is the first time I've ever heard of (or seen for that matter) a person holding 4 CCIE's and a score of other high-level technical certifications. It makes me wonder!

Does this guy just literally have too much knowledge (I mean... the stuff can clog it self up at some point, right?)...?

http://smorris.uber-geek.net

If you're surprised with his resume, check out his four rack lab!

http://smorris.uber-geek.net/lab.htm

2lbs.

Check out Keyur Shah @ HelloComputers ... he is also a Quadruple CCIE and has helped others become a quadruple CCIE....It is insane how much these people know..But..this is how I look at it...If there is even one person out there that has it...Then it can be done. How bad do you want it?

Check this out...It gets even better!

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/case_studies/glennon_tom.html

Ricka182

That's a bit ridiculous, but......it's also wicked cool! I'm surprised he hasn't turned into a router yet himself. The type of guy who gets a tattoo of an RJ-45 plug.

Ricka182

Ten9t6 wrote:

Check this out...It gets even better!

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/case_studies/glennon_tom.html

2lazybutsmart

Well I really don't have any plans to become a CCIE for now (I mean a one-star CCIE)... but I think I really don't want to become a quadruple CCIE.

Unless....

Unless, of course, taking another CCIE once you've already got one is just a piece of cake (which I strongly doubt).

Now that I know there's a quintuple CCIE around (well actually two as the page says), guess we can let Morris slide. haha

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garv221

Ricka182 wrote:

The type of guy who gets a tattoo of an RJ-45 plug.

LoL...This guy has his career on Lock. From his resume', he has a few things going on. I can't imagine how much he is getting paid. Did I read Cisco's site right? It said only 2 people hold multiple CCIE certs?

2lazybutsmart

garv221 wrote:

It said only 2 people hold multiple CCIE certs?

quintuple certs, it was.

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Ten9t6

garv221 wrote:

Ricka182 wrote:

The type of guy who gets a tattoo of an RJ-45 plug.

LoL...This guy has his career on Lock. From his resume', he has a few things going on. I can't imagine how much he is getting paid. Did I read Cisco's site right? It said only 2 people hold multiple CCIE certs?

No...only 3% of CCIEs achieve a second CCIE.....On that site it says that there are 2 individuals that hold 5 CCIES....

garv221

Ten9t6
Thanks for clearing that up. Those numbers are pretty impressive. I see you have a CCIE...What doors has that opened for you?

Ten9t6

garv221 wrote:

Ten9t6
Thanks for clearing that up. Those numbers are pretty impressive. I see you have a CCIE...What doors has that opened for you?

Actually....both of those are written exams....the second part just carried over a line...... I am currently preparing for the labs...I will take the labs...hopefully before the new year....

As far as doors being opened..I am not sure, because I haven't been looking. I have a nice job that allows me to study and finish my degree...But after I pass both of those labs...It will be on...I will really be looking then..

garv221

You have alot of certs. Isn't it ON right now..

Ten9t6

garv221 wrote:

You have alot of certs. Isn't it ON right now..

haha..It would be ..if I wanted it to....I am just relaxing at the moment....I had the job from hell for 2.5 years.....

mobri09

Wow. This guy should be working for Bill Gates or the FBI. I want to put a picture to this resume. My network + certification is like a pencil on his desk. These are the guys that beat you out at job interviews.

Webmaster

mobri09 wrote:

These are the guys that beat you out at job interviews.

They don't go to job interviews, they interview companies

Ten9t6

Webmaster wrote:

mobri09 wrote:

These are the guys that beat you out at job interviews.

They don't go to job interviews, they interview companies

Exactly....they work where they want.... And rightly so after earning those certs...

Webmaster

They probably haven't even noticed IT isn't booming anymore.

2lbs wrote:

Now that I know there's a quintuple CCIE around (well actually two as the page says), guess we can let Morris slide. haha

Yeah, but I wonder if the quintuples can beat his rack.

I was suprised his desk is so clean though... you can still see some wood.

mobri09

I definitely give him tons of credit!

PS: The Rack Rules!

viper75

MASTERS!!!!

2lazybutsmart

Johan wrote:

Yeah, but I wonder if the quintuples can beat his rack.
I was suprised his desk is so clean though... you can still see some wood.

I wonder how he keeps tack of what is where. He probably spends a good hour tracking a wire from one place to another. But his lab organization could be much neater than his desk. Who knows?

Scott made it clear that he didn't buy all that stuff once (notice the tons of routers he's got there). BTW, how many machine's have you got in your lab?

I'm going to start my "lab-for-life" this month. I don't own a single Cisco machine (just have two "borrowed" routers), but I'm going to buy that rack and start stacking on whatever I can get my hands on.

Anybody planning on starting his lab-for-life?

Note**: I'm going to keep my desk crystal clean.

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D-boy

I'm sure he gets headhunted all the time by companies with no interviews

. I am really wondering what salarie he is on!

Maybe Webmaster could recruit this dude to start a CCIE Fourm for any budding CCIE's out there!

I noticed he didn't have his address on his resume

; I hope he has good house insurance! When the page loaded and I saw his lab I went

I wonder if his family ever see him!! I thought I was good with my little lab in the basement with just 2 PC's.. he makes my lab look like nothing...

He is the man..... there is nothing more to say...

D-boy

D-boy

This will give you an Idea of what he might make or does...

Rent-A-CCIE
Emanon.com, Inc. offers a variety of consulting retainers known as Rent-A-CCIE to allow for network consultation or support based on an hourly, as-needed basis.

This service is a method of retaining the services of a highly trained network consultant without the necessity of having a full-time employee. Purchase blocks of hours, use them as you need. An hour here, a couple of hours there, when you need them, they will be there.

It's possible to plan ahead for upcoming projects where you may require services in the design phase, implementation phase and documentation phase of a project. As blocks of hours increase in size, the rate per hour drops, helping you plan for any sized project, big or small.

Rent-A-CCIE Levels:

10 hours ($3,000)

25 hours ($6,250)

50 hours ($10,000)

100 hours ($17,500)

Network Documentation Special ($9,800)

Security Posture Assessment ($13,000)

http://www.emanon.com/rent-a-ccie.htm

hhisgett

Holy crap! This guy probably speaks more binary than english. LOL.

keenon

damn, i would pay him to teach me

his resume is murderous for most anyone to compete against for any job. those racks are

man i wonder does he have a social life

nethead

I used to be on another forum with Scott Morris but he hasn't been around much recently. He has a fantastic knowledge though and the last I heard he was working on his CCIE - voice - his 5th CCIE track.

I don't know if its still the case. but of the quadruple CCIEs out there Scott used to be the only one not working for Cisco.

Also he is an example that you don't need a degree in Computing to get there - he studied journalism!

Great guy!

Fu Loser

When these 2 quad CCIE's were born, the doctor had to sever the console cable.

One of those guys is a teacher for global.net training, wich is affiliated with the sybex cisco books.

Slowhand

The quad and quint CCIE's are definately insane. Having gotten that out of the way, there's something I've been meaning to say, for a long time. What we forget, a lot of times, is that all certs are basically the same thing, a way for you to show that you have the fundamental knowledge in that field of that technology. Someone mentioned that these guys probably think the second or third test is easy. Well. . . it's probably easier that time around, since they've been working, playing, living, breathing Cisco routers for that time.

What we really forget is that even the almighty CCIE is a starting point, a threshold. Once you cross it, you're on the path to a whole new world of experiences. A fresh-off-the-line CCIE will not be as knowledgable as a CCIE with ten years' experience, for example. My guess is that these guys who have all these certifications are well beyond that status the rest of us are trying so hard to get. Once upon a time, the A+ was intimidating to me, and now I'm on to MCSE. Once upon a time, reading and writing were difficult for me, now I rant and rave on message boards. It's all a matter of perspective. As was mentioned in the CCIE review, self-doubt and fear will kill you; and with the myth and lore surrounding the CCIE, having the attitude that the test is greater than you are will drive you into the ground before even opening your binder.

I guess the point of this rant is this, all certifications are things to strive for, and things to overshoot. You haven't finished when you get the CCIE, you've only just begun. Once you're at that level, there's probably as much to learn, if not more, once you've proven yourself. If it's any indication, it's like this in all fields. Shigeru Miyamoto, the creator of Super Mario Bros., is a genius on just about every level, and he loves what he does. He doesn't make games, he creates worlds, and the level he works at is so advanced, no school or certification, alone, could take you there. He's not a game developer, like these quad and quint CCIE's, he's an artist and a true master in his field. To be a master, you have to push beyond the limits, beyond what the tests measure.

(And yes, Webmaster is absolutely right. Once you've attained the kind of ranking of some of these uber-geeks: you don't go to job interviews and negotiate salaries, companies crawl to your doorstep and you command whatever salary you want.)

"Be the water, my friend."

Webmaster

I agree that it doesn't end after attaining any certification, and there's much more to learn beyond the certification than for an exam, but, I disagree with the following:

What we forget, a lot of times, is that all certs are basically the same thing, a way for you to show that you have the fundamental knowledge in that field of that technology.

I disagree in particular with 'fundamental', although you are right it has come to that in many cases. Certifications are often used as guides to learn the fundamental knowledge one would expect to apply in a job, before actually doing the job. As an extension of a degree or other education. That's not what they 'are' imho, and that's not how certifications (used to) work.

The CCIE is a good example. As the name says 'Certified Internetwork Expert'. This doesn't mean you have the 'fundamental' knowledge in the networking field (although it obviously implies it), it means you are an expert tested and certified by cisco to do things the recommended Cisco way, the way their products and technologies are supposed to work. It is experience and a formal education (and CompTIA certs) that show you have the 'fundamental' knowledge, a certification like CCIE allows you to distinguish yourself from the competition. It certifies you for what you actually can do and have done many times, not just what you know. Certifications such as MCSE have the same purpose, and would have a relatively equally high value if that was actually the case in the real world.

skully93

Maybe we should just consider them a threat to the rest of us and eject them into space

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Seriously, that is all so ridiculous.

I'm wondering if the guy with the full uber-rack (I've seen datacenters with less equimpent!) has ever had a girlfriend/boyfriend. That has to eat up some time!

KGhaleon

How many rockets do we need?

strauchr

Looking at his qualifications (from the first post) I have to wonder how much of it actually applies to todays IT world. For example he lists MCSE NT 4.0. This now almost entirely irrelevant (yes I know its still out there but it really is dead knowledge) And CCIE dial-ISP? That sounds also like dead knowledge. Now I could be wrong as I do not know much about Cisco certs (yet) but after a while doesn't the knowledge you learn with Cisco become largely irrelevant such as MCSE NT and CNE 3 etc.

Now I am not saying that its not a great feat to achieve these things but I am thinking of actual relevance to todays IT knowledge. Sure it looks impressive but how useful is it?

Ten9t6

I can tell you...I recently met Scott. He is probably one of the smartest guys I have met. (IT Wise). He is not far from his 5th CCIE (voice) and I believe he is taking his JNCIE in December. We had some smart "Real World" Engineers in our class, and not one of them could ask a question that would stump him. Yes, ISP Dial is an older IE...but that also shows how long he has actually been an IE.

And he does use this knowledge...he does quite a bit of consulting and charges rates I wish I could come close to. If any of you sign up for the CCIE "group study" email list, you will see his name ..... a lot. He is very helpful.

I did two of his labs during the bootcamp, and I was ready to jump out a window..It made my head work for a week.