How much should pay for this server

nice343

someone is trying to sell me this server. How much do you think it is worth


Intel Processors:
DUAL (2) Intel Xeon 2.4GHz 400MHz 512KB Cache

Memory:
2GB


Hard Drives:
2 x 36GB 10K U320 SCSI Hard Drives (Hot Swappable)

RAID:
HP Smart Array Raid Controller

Power Supply:
Redundant Power Supplies

dynamik

Is that a Proliant DL360? I just bought a couple of those on eBay, nearly identical specs. I think I paid $125 (including shipping) for each.

nice343

HP Proliant ML350 Server. Dude is trying to sell it to me for $200

dynamik

Looks like those go for more than that:

http://cgi.ebay.com/HP-Proliant-ML350-G3-Rack-2x-2-4GHz-2GB-3x-36GB-RAID_W0QQitemZ280279327784QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item280279327784&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72:1234|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A2|240%3A1318

http://cgi.ebay.com/Compaq-ProLiant-ML350-G3-2-8-GHz-Xeon-2024-MB-4x72GB-HD_W0QQitemZ320313066898QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item320313066898&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72:1234|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A2|240%3A1318

The tower version is $175, but it also has $95 in shipping. That seems like a decent price for that server.

NetAdmin2436

Wow, the price must have really dropped on them DL360's. I have like 5 of DL's at work and we paid like 4k for each of them within the past 4 years or so. Of course the included the OS and licensing (which of course was most of the cost). I also have an older P3 ML350 that's in my cubical that I play around with and try to do labs.

I would say it's a fair price for them specs though. Does it come with the OS or don't you have to worry about that?

dynamik

Well, I got the G3s (third generation), which are close to the specs he listed. Do you have G4s or G5s?

They didn't come with an OS. I bought them so I could work with ESX, which you get a 60-day trial, and I can move some of my existing VMs over to them, create a few Linux VMs, etc.

nice343

I plan on running 2 server 2003 , 1 linux and 1 XP on this box in vmware. Is it posible if I upgrade memory to 4 gigs

dynamik

Is that one a G3, Nice? You should check what type of memory it takes. Mine takes some really old memory, and I couldn't justify upgrading it (really expensive).

It looks like you can actually get up to 8gb: http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/11430_div/11430_div.html That might be cheaper since you can go with smaller modules. I only have four slots and would need 1gb sticks.

Honestly though, 2GB is more than enough for lab use. I only run my Server 2003 VMs with 256mb. Obviously you'll want more if you're using Exchange or something.

NetAdmin2436

dynamik wrote:

Well, I got the G3s (third generation), which are close to the specs he listed.

Ah, OK.

dynamik wrote:

Do you have G4s or G5s?

Both. I got (3) G4 and (2) G5's at work here.

nice343

I have gotten the server but there is one problem. There are two hard drives in the server but only one is showing in "my computer" Is there something that I need to change for the server to recognize the second hard drive ?

dynamik

I think it defaults to RAID-0 or 1, so you'll only see one drive in Windows. Check the RAID settings in the BIOS.

nice343

I deleted the mirrored raid and I think it wiped out the operating system as well. I tried installing XP on the server and it tells me Hard disk cannot be found???? do I need to install some software on the server before I install the operating system?

Ahriakin

Er...yes. Deleting a Raid array destroys all data (I once had a tech who accidentally did that to a customer with a live server that just needed a redundant drive replaced, fun way to learn that you don't choose 'Initialize' ).

You'll need the Raid driver disk, should be downloadable from the original vendor. Create your array in the Raid/SCSI Bios. Press F6 when prompted for additional SCSI drivers during the XP install and insert the driver floppy.