I am confused, I'm an MCSE?

aordal

What do I do? Should I call microsoft or just wait a while longer? Or should I just take my elective exam anyways?

Credential Certification / Version Date Achieved

Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer Dec 16, 2008
Microsoft Windows Server 2003 Dec 16, 2008
Microsoft Certified Systems Administrator Aug 13, 2008
Microsoft Windows Server 2003 Aug 13, 2008
Microsoft Certified Professional May 23, 2008



Exam ID Description Date Completed
297 Designing a Microsoft Windows Server 2003 Active Directory and Network Infrastructure Dec 16, 2008
294 Planning, Implementing, and Maintaining a Microsoft Windows Server 2003 Active Directory Infrastructure Nov 26, 2008
293 Planning and Maintaining a Microsoft Windows Server 2003 Network Infrastructure Nov 13, 2008
291 Implementing, Managing, and Maintaining a Microsoft Windows Server 2003 Network Infrastructure Aug 13, 2008
290 Managing and Maintaining a Microsoft Windows Server 2003 Environment Jul 03, 2008
000 CompTIA A+ and CompTIA Network+ Jun 26, 2008
270 Installing, Configuring, and Administering Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional May 23, 2008

Mishra

o I see what you are saying... weird

jnwdmb

I would take the extra exam anyways.....you were planning on doing it. I would hate to tell a prospective employer that you are an MCSE and then have Microsoft correct their mistake so that when the employer checks your transcript it says that you are not.

aordal

Yeah, I was planning on taking 70-401 anyways. If nothing else it'll make me sleep better at night. And give me MCTS: SCCM 2007.

Big Jizay

It looks good to me. You should be MCSE. The 297 can be used as an elective for the MCSE. For MCSE, I don't know if you have to go to microsoft.com to request it to make it official.

meadIT

Big Jizay wrote:

It looks good to me. You should be MCSE. The 297 can be used as an elective for the MCSE. For MCSE, I don't know if you have to go to microsoft.com to request it to make it official.

Nope, 297 is one of the core exams. It cannot be used as an elective. The eligible electives are:

Exam 70-086
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-086: Implementing and Supporting Microsoft Systems Management Server 2.0

Exam 70-089
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-089: Planning, Deploying, and Managing Microsoft Systems Management Server 2003

Exam 70-227
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-227: Installing, Configuring, and Administering Microsoft Internet Security and Acceleration (ISA) Server 2000, Enterprise Edition

Exam 70-228
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-228: Installing, Configuring, and Administering Microsoft SQL Server 2000 Enterprise Edition

Exam 70-229
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-229: Designing and Implementing Databases with Microsoft SQL Server 2000 Enterprise Edition

Exam 70-235
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-235: TS: Developing Business Process and Integration Solutions Using Microsoft BizTalk Server

Exam 70-236
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-236: TS: Microsoft Exchange Server 2007, Configuring

Exam 70-262
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-262: TS: Microsoft Office Live Communications Server 2005 – Implementing, Managing, and Troubleshooting

Exam 70-281
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-281: Planning, Deploying, and Managing an Enterprise Project Management Solution

Exam 70-282
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-282: Designing, Deploying, and Managing a Network Solution for a Small- and Medium-Sized Business

Exam 70-2845
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-284: Implementing and Managing Microsoft Exchange Server 2003

Exam 70-285
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-285: Designing a Microsoft Exchange Server 2003 Organization

Exam 70-297
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-297: Designing a Windows Server 2003 Active Directory and Network Infrastructure

Exam 70-298
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-298: Designing Security for a Windows Server 2003 Network

Exam 70-299
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-299: Implementing and Administering Security in a Windows Server 2003 Network

Exam 70-301
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-301: Managing, Organizing, and Delivering IT Projects by Using Microsoft Solutions Framework 3.0

Exam 70-350
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-350: Implementing Microsoft Internet Security and Acceleration (ISA) Server 2004

Exam 70-351
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-351: TS: Microsoft Internet Security and Acceleration (ISA) Server 2006, Configuring

Exam 70-400
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-400: TS: Microsoft System Center Operations Manager 2007, Configuring

Exam 70-401
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-401: TS: Microsoft System Center Configuration Manager 2007, Configuring

Exam 70-431
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-431: TS: Microsoft SQL Server 2005 – Implementation and Maintenance

Exam 70-445
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-445: TS: Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Business Intelligence – Implementation and Maintenance

Exam 70-500
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-500: TS: Microsoft Windows Mobile Designing, Implementing, and Managing

Exam 70-557
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-557: TS: Microsoft Forefront Client and Server, Configuration

Exam 70-620
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-620: TS: Windows Vista, Configuring

Exam 70-624
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-624: TS: Deploying and Maintaining Windows Vista Client and 2007 Microsoft Office System Desktops

Exam 70-630
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-630: TS: Microsoft Office SharePoint Server 2007, Configuring

Exam 70-631
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-631: TS: Windows SharePoint Services 3.0, Configuring

Exam 70-638
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-638: TS: Microsoft Office Communications Server 2007, Configuring

Big Jizay

Elective exams (choose one)⁴
Exam 70-0861
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-086: Implementing and Supporting Microsoft Systems Management Server 2.0

Exam 70-0895
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-089: Planning, Deploying, and Managing Microsoft Systems Management Server 2003

Exam 70-2271, 5
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-227: Installing, Configuring, and Administering Microsoft Internet Security and Acceleration (ISA) Server 2000, Enterprise Edition

Exam 70-2285, 7
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-228: Installing, Configuring, and Administering Microsoft SQL Server 2000 Enterprise Edition

Exam 70-2297
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-229: Designing and Implementing Databases with Microsoft SQL Server 2000 Enterprise Edition

Exam 70-235
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-235: TS: Developing Business Process and Integration Solutions Using Microsoft BizTalk Server

Exam 70-236
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-236: TS: Microsoft Exchange Server 2007, Configuring

Exam 70-262
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-262: TS: Microsoft Office Live Communications Server 2005 – Implementing, Managing, and Troubleshooting

Exam 70-281
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-281: Planning, Deploying, and Managing an Enterprise Project Management Solution

Exam 70-282
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-282: Designing, Deploying, and Managing a Network Solution for a Small- and Medium-Sized Business

Exam 70-2845
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-284: Implementing and Managing Microsoft Exchange Server 2003

Exam 70-285
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-285: Designing a Microsoft Exchange Server 2003 Organization

Exam 70-2973
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-297: Designing a Windows Server 2003 Active Directory and Network Infrastructure

Exam 70-2983
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-298: Designing Security for a Windows Server 2003 Network

Exam 70-299
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-299: Implementing and Administering Security in a Windows Server 2003 Network

Exam 70-3017
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-301: Managing, Organizing, and Delivering IT Projects by Using Microsoft Solutions Framework 3.0

Exam 70-3505
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-350: Implementing Microsoft Internet Security and Acceleration (ISA) Server 2004

Exam 70-351
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-351: TS: Microsoft Internet Security and Acceleration (ISA) Server 2006, Configuring

Exam 70-400
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-400: TS: Microsoft System Center Operations Manager 2007, Configuring

Exam 70-401
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-401: TS: Microsoft System Center Configuration Manager 2007, Configuring

Exam 70-431
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-431: TS: Microsoft SQL Server 2005 – Implementation and Maintenance

Exam 70-445
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-445: TS: Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Business Intelligence – Implementation and Maintenance

Exam 70-500
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-500: TS: Microsoft Windows Mobile Designing, Implementing, and Managing

Exam 70-557
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-557: TS: Microsoft Forefront Client and Server, Configuration

Exam 70-6206
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-620: TS: Windows Vista, Configuring

Exam 70-624
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-624: TS: Deploying and Maintaining Windows Vista Client and 2007 Microsoft Office System Desktops

Exam 70-630
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-630: TS: Microsoft Office SharePoint Server 2007, Configuring

Exam 70-631
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-631: TS: Windows SharePoint Services 3.0, Configuring

Exam 70-638
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-638: TS: Microsoft Office Communications Server 2007, Configuring

70-297 CAN be used an elective. It's under the "Elective exams (choose one)" section. If you check the number 3 footnote at the bottom of the page at http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcse/windows2003/default.mspx
it states "3Exam 70-297 and Exam 70-298 can each count one time toward a core design exam or an elective exam, but not both."

aordal

exactly! thats why i was surprised when i got the email.

im using 297 as a design exam i havent taken any other design exams. it appears as if microsoft is count 297 twice, for design and for elective.

Mishra

And since he is using the 297 as a core exam, he doesn't have a qualifing elective. Which is why it is weird.

meadIT

I stand corrected. aordal, check your certification planner on the MCP site and see what is checked under electives.

Big Jizay

Core exams on networking systems (all are required)
Exam 70-290
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-290: Managing and Maintaining a Windows Server 2003 Environment

Exam 70-291
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-291: Implementing, Managing, and Maintaining a Windows Server 2003 Network Infrastructure

Exam 70-293
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-293: Planning and Maintaining a Windows Server 2003 Network Infrastructure

Exam 70-294
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-294: Planning, Implementing, and Maintaining a Windows Server 2003 Active Directory Infrastructure

He has all of the core exams that are required right? I don't think he's using 297 as a core exam.

kriscamaro68

They maybe counting the comptia certs as elective even though it says sec+ on the site maybe things are changing. I would check with them by giving them a call to make sure.

Mishra

Big Jizay wrote:

He has all of the core exams that are required right? I don't think he's using 297 as a core exam.

By core I meant *required exam. This would be his required design exam. Sorry for the confusion.

meadIT

MCSE Requirements are 1 Client exam, 4 core networking exams, 1 core Design exam, and 1 elective. His completed exams are in bold. This info is from http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcse/windows2003/default.mspx

Core Networking Exams wrote:

Core exams on networking systems (all are required)
Exam 70-290
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-290: Managing and Maintaining a Windows Server 2003 Environment

Exam 70-291
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-291: Implementing, Managing, and Maintaining a Windows Server 2003 Network Infrastructure

Exam 70-293
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-293: Planning and Maintaining a Windows Server 2003 Network Infrastructure

Exam 70-294
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-294: Planning, Implementing, and Maintaining a Windows Server 2003 Active Directory Infrastructure

Client Exams wrote:

Core exams on client operating systems (choose one)
Exam 70-620
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-620: TS: Windows Vista, Configuring

Exam 70-270
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-270: Installing, Configuring, and Administering Windows XP Professional

Exam 70-210
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-210: Installing, Configuring, and Administering Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional

Core Design Exams wrote:

Core design exams (choose one)
Exam 70-297
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-297: Designing a Windows Server 2003 Active Directory and Network Infrastructure

Exam 70-298
Review the preparation guide for Exam 70-298: Designing Security for a Windows Server 2003 Network

Big Jizay

Yeah it is confusing. I know you can use the combo of A+ and Net+ for an elective for the MCSA. It says that on the website. So I believed that if you had the MCSA, and passed 293, 294, and 297 which can be used as an elective, that you'd be MCSE. I could have misunderstood the requirements section though. It'd be safe just to get ahold of Microsoft about this.

aordal

meadIT wrote:

I stand corrected. aordal, check your certification planner on the MCP site and see what is checked under electives.

There isnt an option for just MCSE 2003. Theres one for :Security and one for :Messaging.

meadIT

Hmm...it's there one mine. Maybe they take certifications off after you obtain them, which would make sense because why would you plan on taking a certification that you already hold.

aordal

Ah well, it technically doesn't change things. I'll take the elective anyways just tomake sure I'm legit.