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brandon1109brandon1109 Member Posts: 34 ■■□□□□□□□□
Thanks in advance!

Well like a lot of people at this time, I am looking for a job. I recently got out of the Air Force and really never wrote a resume or even been through the whole "getting a job process." I am now grasping the concept that this probably wasn’t the best time to get out and try the “civilian” market…..lol

I had a resume that wasn't get that many hits on monster, dice, yahoo, and CB. I also applied to numerous jobs on companies websites. Not once did I receive a call or an email or anything back. After reading online I decided to rewrite me resume. I have read through threads and threads of resume advice and do's and don'ts. Hence how I found this website. Which ROCKS!!!

I know would like to see what everyone thinks of my hopefully new and improved resume. It is 1 3/4 pages vs the old which was only 1. I think the only this holding me back is CCNA which I am working on; I am hoping to complete this by March. But the emergency fund is starting to get a little low for my taste and would like to pick up anything that isn't setting me up for failure.

Once again Thank You in advance and any help, opinions, criticism, are greatly appreciated.






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    KasorKasor Member Posts: 933 ■■■■□□□□□□
    First, never put your security clearance level on the website which that you can become a potential target for other country. TAKE IT OFF. I guess Air Force didn't teach you well enough about informatino security.

    However if you are attending clearance job fair, then you put it on your resume.

    You have list them in order

    Objective
    Job experience - list your accomplishment first (I"m sure you have more than one position during your four years at the AF)
    Certification
    Education (both mil/civ)
    Additional skills (DO not list any courses)

    Overall you need to target the area and speciifc IT field. From what I saw on your job description and your title. It is not matching up and confusion about what exactly you did.

    You should able to put everything in one page resume, afterall you only have four years experience.

    The big question that I have on this resume is if you are working on all those cisco products and still not having CCNA/CCDA or CCNP/CCDP/CCSP... Something is not right.

    Good Luck
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    brandon1109brandon1109 Member Posts: 34 ■■□□□□□□□□
    Kasor wrote: »
    First, never put your security clearance level on the website which that you can become a potential target for other country. TAKE IT OFF. I guess Air Force didn't teach you well enough about informatino security.

    However if you are attending clearance job fair, then you put it on your resume.

    You have list them in order

    Objective
    Job experience - list your accomplishment first (I"m sure you have more than one position during your four years at the AF)
    Certification
    Education (both mil/civ)
    Additional skills (DO not list any courses)

    Overall you need to target the area and speciifc IT field. From what I saw on your job description and your title. It is not matching up and confusion about what exactly you did.

    You should able to put everything in one page resume, afterall you only have four years experience.

    The big question that I have on this resume is if you are working on all those cisco products and still not having CCNA/CCDA or CCNP/CCDP/CCSP... Something is not right.

    Good Luck

    Hahaha ouch, ya burned me on the security clearance lol ......I see your point but just about everyone I know who has one puts them on their resume, regardless point taken..thanks

    I worked as a network engineer for first 2 years then network managment & project management for the final 2. I decided just to make the job title only network engineer. I thought it would look awkard with working 3 different positions in the same place.....but i see your point....thanks

    as for the no ccna, ya i know i have been slacking and I am studying for it now......In the AF i was exposed to a lot of cisco devices.....great experience.....


    thanks for your inputs kasor..
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    empc4000xlempc4000xl Member Posts: 322
    Kasor wrote: »
    First, never put your security clearance level on the website which that you can become a potential target for other country. TAKE IT OFF. I guess Air Force didn't teach you well enough about informatino security.

    However if you are attending clearance job fair, then you put it on your resume.

    You have list them in order

    Objective
    Job experience - list your accomplishment first (I"m sure you have more than one position during your four years at the AF)
    Certification
    Education (both mil/civ)
    Additional skills (DO not list any courses)

    Overall you need to target the area and speciifc IT field. From what I saw on your job description and your title. It is not matching up and confusion about what exactly you did.

    You should able to put everything in one page resume, afterall you only have four years experience.

    The big question that I have on this resume is if you are working on all those cisco products and still not having CCNA/CCDA or CCNP/CCDP/CCSP... Something is not right.

    Good Luck


    I disagree. you can put your clearance level on your Resume. Headhunters looking don't even bother if they are looking for cleared people. Now I would start putting which areas of SCI you were read in or weather you are CI or Full scope. I was told right before I got out, to put your clearance and degree first. Your resume is most of the time folded in half and if they don't see those things they ish can it.
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    jryantechjryantech Member Posts: 623
    "xxxxxx University A+, N+, S+, MCSE and CCNA Course - xxxxx 2007 to xxxxx2007"

    When I read your resume this stood out because you only have one of the listed certifications you seem to have had classes for?? I am confused.

    But not bad at all for a start!
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    the_Grinchthe_Grinch Member Posts: 4,165 ■■■■■■■■■■
    Worse comes to worse, when you find a job that requires the clearance put it on the resume. I don't believe it is a big deal, but I'm not in the military. You will definitely want to talk to the VA as they should be able to provide you with a job counselor who can help you polish your resume (though looks pretty good to me). Given your experience, a CCNA on that resume will really set you up. I'd go to monster and types TS/SCI, you'll find some many jobs you won't know what to do with. Also, if it gets really bad there are a lot of states looking for guys in the Active Guard Reserve. I know NJ had a number of position doing what you did everyday, but for the states military. But please do a search for jobs that have the clearance requirement! Couldn't tell you the number of companies I've seen with postings for contract job at an agency that doesn't exist...
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    brandon1109brandon1109 Member Posts: 34 ■■□□□□□□□□
    empc4000xl wrote: »
    I disagree. you can put your clearance level on your Resume. Headhunters looking don't even bother if they are looking for cleared people. Now I would start putting which areas of SCI you were read in or weather you are CI or Full scope. I was told right before I got out, to put your clearance and degree first. Your resume is most of the time folded in half and if they don't see those things they ish can it.

    I talked it over with some people and decided to leave it on for the time being. Since I am in the job market, however when I do find employment I will take it off so I dont alert any foreign gov't to come after me or don't lapse on information security as someone already pointed out....lol..... I am unsure if I am CI or Full Scope..I will have to find that out....thanks for you input
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    brandon1109brandon1109 Member Posts: 34 ■■□□□□□□□□
    jryantech wrote: »
    "xxxxxx University A+, N+, S+, MCSE and CCNA Course - xxxxx 2007 to xxxxx2007"

    When I read your resume this stood out because you only have one of the listed certifications you seem to have had classes for?? I am confused.

    But not bad at all for a start!

    Well, at the time I wasn't sure if this was what I wanted to do, but I put it on my resume to show that I have a diverse educational background, but I see the point you brought up and I am leaning towards taken it out b/c it does show that I should have more certs that I have....which is a negative.....thanks for you input
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    brandon1109brandon1109 Member Posts: 34 ■■□□□□□□□□
    the_Grinch wrote: »
    Worse comes to worse, when you find a job that requires the clearance put it on the resume. I don't believe it is a big deal, but I'm not in the military. You will definitely want to talk to the VA as they should be able to provide you with a job counselor who can help you polish your resume (though looks pretty good to me). Given your experience, a CCNA on that resume will really set you up. I'd go to monster and types TS/SCI, you'll find some many jobs you won't know what to do with. Also, if it gets really bad there are a lot of states looking for guys in the Active Guard Reserve. I know NJ had a number of position doing what you did everyday, but for the states military. But please do a search for jobs that have the clearance requirement! Couldn't tell you the number of companies I've seen with postings for contract job at an agency that doesn't exist...


    Very good point grinch, I never knew the VA does that. I will have to do some research on that. Never hurts to have some more eyes on my resume.

    I agree on the CCNA, I just got my CBT NUGGETS yesterday.....Man they are SWEET!!!

    Funny you mention the Guard.....I came across an opening in Tampa for the guard. I gave it some thought but decided to keep it in my back pocket just incase the nest eggs gets too low....

    I followed you advice and found a couple of jobs i missed before and applied......crossing my fingers.....thanks for you input....
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    empc4000xlempc4000xl Member Posts: 322
    I talked it over with some people and decided to leave it on for the time being. Since I am in the job market, however when I do find employment I will take it off so I dont alert any foreign gov't to come after me or don't lapse on information security as someone already pointed out....lol..... I am unsure if I am CI or Full Scope..I will have to find that out....thanks for you input

    I wrote that wrong I meant to say don't put which areas you were cleared for. And I dont think you are CI or Full scope polyed you would deff know if you were
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    brandon1109brandon1109 Member Posts: 34 ■■□□□□□□□□
    empc4000xl wrote: »
    I wrote that wrong I meant to say don't put which areas you were cleared for. And I dont think you are CI or Full scope polyed you would deff know if you were


    ya I got you now....I was a little unsure but I know I'm not now...thanks
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    the_Grinchthe_Grinch Member Posts: 4,165 ■■■■■■■■■■
    No problem and I can understand not jump at an AGR job. Full scope poly is fun! Anyhow, I don't think you'll have any issues.
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    KasorKasor Member Posts: 933 ■■■■□□□□□□
    Anyway, you need to rebuilt your whole resume. Get the fact and experience line up.

    Keep the security thing out from the web. You can go to many IT Expo job fair at MD/DC/VA that required what you looking for. However, can you land an interview and job is up to you and how you present yourself.

    At for empc4000xl, security is privilege and need to know! Don't abuse and you will burn yourself. The Big brother is watching.

    For clearance job fair, yes should have it on. The down size of contracting from DoD and other Govn't agencies will cut down a lot of contractor. Also, experience is an important key factors.
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    empc4000xlempc4000xl Member Posts: 322
    Kasor wrote: »
    Anyway, you need to rebuilt your whole resume. Get the fact and experience line up.

    Keep the security thing out from the web. You can go to many IT Expo job fair at MD/DC/VA that required what you looking for. However, can you land an interview and job is up to you and how you present yourself.

    At for empc4000xl, security is privilege and need to know! Don't abuse and you will burn yourself. The Big brother is watching.

    For clearance job fair, yes should have it on. The down size of contracting from DoD and other Govn't agencies will cut down a lot of contractor. Also, experience is an important key factors.


    I've never had a problem with it. I have been told by many people and even at TAP class to have it listed. You have to use common since also. If somebody calls you or gets in contact with you that doesn't seem legit use caution. Here is the comprimise. If you have it on monster or whatever keep it off. When you are applying for a specific job make sure you have it on that resume that you send in.
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    brandon1109brandon1109 Member Posts: 34 ■■□□□□□□□□
    Kasor wrote: »
    Anyway, you need to rebuilt your whole resume. Get the fact and experience line up.

    Can you elaborate please?

    Do you mean go like this?


    name
    summary statement
    security clearance
    only when neededicon_wink.gif
    Professional Exp.
    Prof. Skills
    etc.
    etc.

    I just want to fully understand what you are implying....
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    LarryDaManLarryDaMan Member Posts: 797
    Kasor wrote: »
    First, never put your security clearance level on the website which that you can become a potential target for other country. TAKE IT OFF.

    Huh? It doesn't do any harm to list a Security Clearance here, none at all.

    I have been cleared my whole adult life. There are literally almost a million cleared people in this country, any foreign country would have no problem identifying plenty of cleared people to target. Protecting the cleared INFORMATION is the important thing. I have been to many InfoSec classes and I am a trained Personnel Security Adjudicator, and I have never heard such a thing.

    Listing the clearance on his public resume will very likely increase his salary offers. Throw a rock in front of most FBI, CIA, DHS, DIA,..etc. buildings and you will hit a cleared person. If you practice protecting the information, it is not a problem.
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    meadITmeadIT Member Posts: 581 ■■■■□□□□□□
    LarryDaMan wrote: »
    Throw a rock in front of most FBI, CIA, DHS, DIA,..etc. buildings and you will hit a cleared person.

    icon_lol.gif Those are some of the last places that I think I'd want to start throwing rocks at random people. ;)
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    brandon1109brandon1109 Member Posts: 34 ■■□□□□□□□□
    meadIT wrote: »
    icon_lol.gif Those are some of the last places that I think I'd want to start throwing rocks at random people. ;)

    I with you on that one.....icon_thumright.gif
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    carboncopycarboncopy Member Posts: 259
    If you have a TS but not sure what level, you most likely have a SSBI (Single Scope Background Investigation). Even if you are not SCI you might be eligible. If possible go to McDill Air Force base and find out who the ISSO is and have them print out your clearance from JPAS for future reference.
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