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Despite Recession, IT Still in Demand

impelseimpelse Member Posts: 1,237 ■■■■□□□□□□
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I still have my job, but the company is cutting costs, I just read from Certmag that the Recession did not hit the IT het, what do you think?

Despite Recession, IT Still in Demand
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    ColbyGColbyG Member Posts: 1,264
    I beg to differ, lol.
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    cisco_troopercisco_trooper Member Posts: 1,441 ■■■■□□□□□□
    Heh. Don't come to Kansas City. Sprint has ruined this market.
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    nelnel Member Posts: 2,859 ■□□□□□□□□□
    There isnt a single employment section which has not been effected.

    What a load of crap. Everyone has been effected
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    ClaymooreClaymoore Member Posts: 1,637
    cisco_trooper wrote: »
    Heh. Don't come to Kansas City. Sprint has ruined this market.

    That's why I left KC 6 years ago
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    blargoeblargoe Member Posts: 4,174 ■■■■■■■■■□
    I wouldn't trust a magazine pimpin' IT certs and cert products to tell me whether IT is suffering or not... JMHO
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    brad-brad- Member Posts: 1,218
    nel wrote: »
    What a load of crap. Everyone has been effected

    Probably not medical.

    I know producers of hot dogs, bologne, and spam are doing great.
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    msteinhilbermsteinhilber Member Posts: 1,480 ■■■■■■■■□□
    brad- wrote: »
    Probably not medical.

    I know producers of hot dogs, bologne, and spam are doing great.

    McDonald's is also doing great, there are a lot of dollar menu millionaires these days.
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    BradleyHUBradleyHU Member Posts: 918 ■■■■□□□□□□
    lol @ dollar menu millionaires...i think i'm bout to be one today on my lunch break...
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    jryantechjryantech Member Posts: 623
    Only people doing good are the crooks... Brokers, Fund Managers, Doctors (entire field), Dentists and anyone working with or in Nigeria.

    Haha...

    But seriously it is a recession, to say a Trade like IT is not effected is ridiculous.
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    JDMurrayJDMurray Admin Posts: 13,034 Admin
    blargoe wrote: »
    I wouldn't trust a magazine pimpin' IT certs and cert products to tell me whether IT is suffering or not... JMHO
    This is so true. Always consider the original source of any information you receive.

    And here in SoCal, IT in healthcare, aerospace, and the Federal government seems to be doing the best.

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    jryantechjryantech Member Posts: 623
    JDMurray wrote: »
    This is so true. Always consider the original source of any information you receive.

    And here in SoCal, IT in healthcare, aerospace, and the Federal government seems to be doing the best.

    I think IT in healthcare and government is the strongest and will continue to be the strongest in regards to 'job security'.
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    /usr/usr Member Posts: 1,768
    Although I still have my job, I have noticed a drastic decline in the number of IT jobs available around my area. There never were many, but now there are practically none...
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    1MeanAdmin1MeanAdmin Member Posts: 157
    I guess the IT in healthcare depends on a state. In NY a couple of hospitals closed and many, including mine, are moderately laying off.
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    JDMurrayJDMurray Admin Posts: 13,034 Admin
    1MeanAdmin wrote: »
    I guess the IT in healthcare depends on a state. In NY a couple of hospitals closed and many, including mine, are moderately laying off.
    It depends on who owns the hospital or heathcare business. Kaiser and Tenet hospitals are doing well right now, while Charter hospitals not so much. A lot of hospitals loose money because they are medical clinics to the local community, so they rely on Federal grants and private donations. If that revenue drys up then the hospital could be bought or closed.

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    arwesarwes Member Posts: 633 ■■■□□□□□□□
    My last job was at a nonprofit hospital and we had about 10 people in our IT department (mostly programmers). The hospital was sold to Iasis Healthcare and they promptly whittled it down to 4 employees (IT Director, Network Admin, PC Technician, Help Desk). Basically 2 guys supporting 400+ workstations. Glad I got out of there..
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    phantasmphantasm Member Posts: 995
    I call BS on it not hitting the IT sector. I was laid off the beginning of January. It sucked.
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    cisco_troopercisco_trooper Member Posts: 1,441 ■■■■□□□□□□
    arwes wrote: »
    My last job was at a nonprofit hospital and we had about 10 people in our IT department (mostly programmers). The hospital was sold to Iasis Healthcare and they promptly whittled it down to 4 employees (IT Director, Network Admin, PC Technician, Help Desk). Basically 2 guys supporting 400+ workstations. Glad I got out of there..


    I was once the only desktop guy for 1300 machines across 8 buildings. THAT sucked....
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    vincentnyc10vincentnyc10 Member Posts: 133
    1MeanAdmin wrote: »
    I guess the IT in healthcare depends on a state. In NY a couple of hospitals closed and many, including mine, are moderately laying off.

    yup...just watching fox news right now and in nyc...2 hospitals are closing...one in queens and i forgot the other one. even the health care full of nurses and doctors jobs aren't recession proof. damn this recession sux big time.
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    1MeanAdmin1MeanAdmin Member Posts: 157
    JDMurray wrote: »
    It depends on who owns the hospital or heathcare business. Kaiser and Tenet hospitals are doing well right now, while Charter hospitals not so much. A lot of hospitals loose money because they are medical clinics to the local community, so they rely on Federal grants and private donations. If that revenue drys up then the hospital could be bought or closed.

    Agreed. The sad fact is that revenues generated by medicare/medicaid patients represent a bigger percentage of budget in a typical NY hospital and the state is cutting the funding. It affects major full-service non-profit hospitals as well. It's not as bad as in some other industries, but the picture is grim.
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    1MeanAdmin1MeanAdmin Member Posts: 157
    vincentnyc10 wrote: »
    yup...just watching fox news right now and in nyc...2 hospitals are closing...one in queens and i forgot the other one. even the health care full of nurses and doctors jobs aren't recession proof. damn this recession sux big time.

    All true, but the demand for nurses is still HUGE.
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    BigTex71BigTex71 Member Posts: 95 ■■□□□□□□□□
    JDMurray wrote: »
    It depends on who owns the hospital or heathcare business. Kaiser and Tenet hospitals are doing well right now, while Charter hospitals not so much. A lot of hospitals loose money because they are medical clinics to the local community, so they rely on Federal grants and private donations. If that revenue drys up then the hospital could be bought or closed.

    I work with the Tenet system in a roundabout way. We are our own medical management service, but we also work with Tenet. We are doing really well and growing like crazy. I really lucked out getting my job.
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    dynamikdynamik Banned Posts: 12,312 ■■■■■■■■■□
    1MeanAdmin wrote: »
    All true, but the demand for nurses is still HUGE.

    I love nurses, and I never even get sick!
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    vincentnyc10vincentnyc10 Member Posts: 133
    1MeanAdmin wrote: »
    All true, but the demand for nurses is still HUGE.

    once again...it depends where u r. u r a nurse? u married to one? if no to any of though..u are just guessing cuz of what u read on the newspaper and think it is a hot field. 10-15 years ago...IT is a hot field and media and the hype flooded with everyone going to school to study computer and the field is flooded with IT...now u are competing with everyone and salary is half of what you use to make.

    do u know most of the nurses out there come from philippines? why do u think it is that? watch in 10-15 years where the medical field is flooded with nurses...guess what will happen.
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    impelseimpelse Member Posts: 1,237 ■■■■□□□□□□
    Probably,

    But to be a nurse they spend 4 to 8 years at the University, not in the case with IT, somebody with one or two years plus a lot of dedication can begin to get a good salary. I am not saying that IT is not difficult, I am comparing, could be full of nurse in 10 to 15 years but that is a lot of time.
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    1MeanAdmin1MeanAdmin Member Posts: 157
    vincentnyc10 wrote: »
    once again...it depends where u r. u r a nurse? u married to one? if no to any of though..u are just guessing cuz of what u read on the newspaper and think it is a hot field.
    do u know most of the nurses out there come from philippines? why do u think it is that? watch in 10-15 years where the medical field is flooded with nurses...guess what will happen.

    I work for a hospital in NY and know people from other NY hospitals (including nurses) so I'm not guessing. These days, my hospital needs nurses. Furthermore, a nurse from SI hospital told me that they need nurses so bad, they have to bring them from Philippines - yes, to save money, but mainly because of the shortage.
    vincentnyc10 wrote: »
    10-15 years ago...IT is a hot field and media and the hype flooded with everyone going to school to study computer and the field is flooded with IT...now u are competing with everyone and salary is half of what you use to make.

    Besides the recession time, I mostly blame the self-entitlement of some young folks OR the lack of desire to learn new stuff of experienced employees, rather than the over-supply of experienced and knowledgeable IT staff.
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