Help with CCNA lab

thenjdukethenjduke Member Posts: 894 ■■■■□□□□□□
Hey everyone was wondering give me some advice. I was given three 2501 routers with one of them max dram and flash and the other two i believe the default dram and flash on them. I was given the cables for lab to connect these routers. The one 2501 has 12.3 IOS on it and the others have 11.x something. I also have a 2620xm that was given to me with 128 Dram / 64 Flash I believe with 12.3 and just the basic default connections on it which is the RJ45 Fast Ethernet and console port. I was wondering what would I need to connect this to other 2501 Router for CCNA lab. I believe it is a Serial port if I am not mistaken right? I will provide pictures and screen shots later what I have so can help me.

Thanks
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  • mikej412mikej412 Member Posts: 10,086 ■■■■■■■■■■
    When you get a switch (Cisco 2950) you'll need transceivers for the 2500 routers (unless the other 2 2500s are the models with the built in hubs). You'd still need the transceivers to use cross-over cables between the router Ethernet ports if you don't want to get a switch right now.

    You might also consider getting an NM-4A/S for the 2600XM. That also lets you use the common DB60 to DB60 back to back cables -- and gives you a router you can configure as a frame relay switch. You then use your 3 2500s as a hub and 2 spokes.

    For the 2600XM you could consider WIC-1T cards. If the price is right you can consider the WIC-2T, but the smart-serial to DB-60 back to back cables are also usually more expensive. If you get the WIC-1T cards, then you just need to buy enough DB60 to DB60 back to back serial cables to connect all your routers together.

    I've seen the NM-4A/S modules sell on eBay for a little more than a WIC-1T and less than a WIC-2T.

    You might also want to start pricing the memory upgrades for the other 2 2500s. If you post a show version we can probably tell you if you'd need to upgrade the ROM Bios to support the cheap 3rd party memory upgrades.
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  • thenjdukethenjduke Member Posts: 894 ■■■■□□□□□□
    2620XM Router
    Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
    IOS (tm) C2600 Software (C2600-I-M), Version 12.3(5), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
    Copyright (c) 1986-2003 by cisco Systems, Inc.
    Compiled Tue 28-Oct-03 05:07 by kellythw
    Image text-base: 0x80008098, data-base: 0x80CA4288

    ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 12.2(7r) [cmong 7r], RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)

    EarlRouter uptime is 0 minutes
    System returned to ROM by power-on
    System image file is "flash:c2600-i-mz.123-5.bin"

    cisco 2620XM (MPC860P) processor (revision 0x100) with 61440K/4096K bytes of memory.
    Processor board ID JAD06240LV9 (527869974)
    M860 processor: part number 5, mask 2
    Bridging software.
    X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
    1 FastEthernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
    1 Serial network interface(s)
    32K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
    32768K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)

    Configuration register is 0x2102
    ___________________________________________________________________________

    First 2501:

    Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
    IOS (tm) 2500 Software (C2500-I-L), Version 11.2(13), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
    Copyright (c) 1986-1998 by cisco Systems, Inc.
    Compiled Tue 31-Mar-98 12:10 by tlane
    Image text-base: 0x03022F58, data-base: 0x00001000

    ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 11.0(10c), SOFTWARE
    BOOTFLASH: 3000 Bootstrap Software (IGS-BOOT-R), Version 11.0(10c), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)

    Router uptime is 0 minutes
    System restarted by power-on
    System image file is "flash:c2500-i-l.112-13", booted via flash

    cisco 2500 (68030) processor (revision N) with 6144K/2048K bytes of memory.
    Processor board ID 08916901, with hardware revision 00000000
    Bridging software.
    X.25 software, Version 2.0, NET2, BFE and GOSIP compliant.
    1 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
    2 Serial network interface(s)
    32K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
    16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read ONLY)

    Configuration register is 0x2102

    ____________________________________________________________________________

    Second 2501:
    Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
    IOS (tm) 2500 Software (C2500-I-L), Version 11.2(13), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
    Copyright (c) 1986-1998 by cisco Systems, Inc.
    Compiled Tue 31-Mar-98 12:10 by tlane
    Image text-base: 0x03022F58, data-base: 0x00001000

    ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 11.0(10c), SOFTWARE
    BOOTFLASH: 3000 Bootstrap Software (IGS-BOOT-R), Version 11.0(10c), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)

    Router uptime is 0 minutes
    System restarted by power-on
    System image file is "flash:c2500-i-l.112-13", booted via flash

    cisco 2500 (68030) processor (revision N) with 2048K/2048K bytes of memory.
    Processor board ID 09217138, with hardware revision 00000000
    Bridging software.
    X.25 software, Version 2.0, NET2, BFE and GOSIP compliant.
    1 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
    2 Serial network interface(s)
    32K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
    8192K bytes of processor board System flash (Read ONLY)

    Configuration register is 0x2102

    ____________________________________________________________________________

    Third 2501:
    IOS (tm) 2500 Software (C2500-IS-L), Version 12.3(26), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2)
    Technical Support: Cisco - Shortcut
    Copyright (c) 1986-2008 by cisco Systems, Inc.
    Compiled Mon 17-Mar-08 14:39 by dchih

    ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 11.0(10c), SOFTWARE
    BOOTLDR: 3000 Bootstrap Software (IGS-BOOT-R), Version 11.0(10c), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)

    router1 uptime is 2 minutes
    System returned to ROM by power-on
    System image file is "flash:/c2500-is-l.123-26.bin"

    cisco 2500 (68030) processor (revision N) with 14336K/2048K bytes of memory.
    Processor board ID 06159459, with hardware revision 00000000
    Bridging software.
    X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
    1 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
    2 Serial network interface(s)
    32K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
    16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read ONLY)

    Configuration register is 0x2102
    ____________________________________________________________________________

    Forgot to mention this Router.
    Cisco 851

    Cisco IOS Software, C850 Software (C850-ADVSECURITYK9-M), Version 12.4(15)T1, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2)
    Technical Support: Cisco - Shortcut
    Copyright (c) 1986-2007 by Cisco Systems, Inc.
    Compiled Wed 18-Jul-07 16:23 by prod_rel_team

    ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 12.3(8r)YI3, RELEASE SOFTWARE

    EarlRouter uptime is 2 days, 2 hours, 34 minutes
    System returned to ROM by power-on
    System image file is "flash:c850-advsecurityk9-mz.124-15.T1.bin"


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    Cisco 851 (MPC8272) processor (revision 0x200) with 59392K/6144K bytes of memory.
    Processor board ID FHK110815XW
    MPC8272 CPU Rev: Part Number 0xC, Mask Number 0x10
    5 FastEthernet interfaces
    128K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
    20480K bytes of processor board System flash (Intel Strataflash)

    Configuration register is 0x210

    Cables:
    I have six V.35 DTE cables and one male to male connector connecting the two wires.
    I have another cable that has a female end that plugs into the male connector of the serial wire with the large pins coming out of it and on the other side has male connector with 11 pins on top and 10 pins on top. I am not sure what that is for. Then I have six cisco wires that have label on them E34856 UL Type CL2 28 AWG 75C Shielded which I have no clue what they are for.

    Thanks for all the help. I am not too worried about upgrading as I have some money to spend about 200.00 for upgrades. All this equipment was given to me by my boss for free :)
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  • thenjdukethenjduke Member Posts: 894 ■■■■□□□□□□
    Forgot to mention have on Allied Telesis CentreCom MX20T Twisted Pair Transceiver.
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  • thenjdukethenjduke Member Posts: 894 ■■■■□□□□□□
    Mike,
    I know I have to upgrade the flash and mem on two of the 2501 so where is a good place and cheap to get that stuff?
    Earl
    CCNA, MCP, MCSA, MCSE, MCDST, MCITP Enterprise Administrator, Working towards Networking BS. CCNP is Next.
  • mikej412mikej412 Member Posts: 10,086 ■■■■■■■■■■
    thenjduke wrote: »
    ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 11.0(10c)
    I had a few old 4.x ROMs I had to upgrade to get support for 16/16 on the 2500s. I have a few 5.x ROMs that supported the 16/16 upgrades just fine. Your ROMs at 11.x are fine for supporting 16/16.

    Argh!!! My favorite eBay memory upgrade vendor has nothing listed..... I hope they didn't go out of business. icon_sad.gif

    There are still a few sellers on eBay that have the 8mb Flash and 16Mb DRAM for the 2500 routers -- but you'd have to shop to find the best combination of price and combined shipping charges. There are a couple vendors that seem reasonable, but I've never used them.
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  • captobviouscaptobvious Member Posts: 648
    Cisco 2500 Memory USA Only Ebay

    Sometimes you can get lucky and get it cheaper than this.
  • thenjdukethenjduke Member Posts: 894 ■■■■□□□□□□
    I am going to take the 8 mb flash out of one of the two 2501 routers so all I have to do is upgrade the dram.. what version of ios can i get with 16 mb flash and 8 meg of dram>
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  • tierstentiersten Member Posts: 4,505
    thenjduke wrote: »
    I am going to take the 8 mb flash out of one of the two 2501 routers so all I have to do is upgrade the dram.. what version of ios can i get with 16 mb flash and 8 meg of dram>
    Does it actually have an 8MB SIMM in there? Run "show flash: chips" to see what is in there currently.

    If you're adding or changing one of the existing flash memory SIMMs inside the 2500, you'll need to make sure it is partitioned correctly and it will need to be reformatted.

    Use the Cisco Feature Navigator to work out what version you can run.
  • tierstentiersten Member Posts: 4,505
    thenjduke wrote: »
    I am going to take the 8 mb flash out of one of the two 2501 routers so all I have to do is upgrade the dram.
    Wait. What exactly are you trying to do here?

    This is what is currently in there:

    1st 2500 - 16MB flash + 8MB RAM
    2nd 2500 - 8MB flash + 4MB RAM
    3rd 2500 - 16MB flash + 16MB RAM
  • thenjdukethenjduke Member Posts: 894 ■■■■□□□□□□
    I am removing the 2nd 2500 - 8MB flash + 4MB RAM router out of the bunch. I realized that it had 16 mb flash in there.. SO I am going to order 16m DRAM on the other router and then the NM-4A/S for the 2600XM.
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