Questions from a newbie

infini

i intend on following the 70-270 but i am a bit confused. What exaclty is the difference between MCP MCSA AND MCE? I have searched the internet and some sites describe this as "MCP 70-270" while others as "MCSE 70-270". Any help?. Do i have to pass any other exams before trying 70-270? Thanks!

mwgood

infini wrote:

i intend on following the 70-270 but i am a bit confused. What exaclty is the difference between MCP MCSA AND MCE?

MCP= Microsoft Certified Professional, which means that you passed [at least] 1 of their current exams that qualify you for that label.
http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/certified.asp

MCSA= Microsoft Certified Systems Administrator, which means you passed [at least] 4 exams.
http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcsa/default.asp

MCSE= Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer, which means you passed [at least] 7 exams.
http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcse/windows2003/

infini wrote:

I have searched the internet and some sites describe this as "MCP 70-270" while others as "MCSE 70-270". Any help?. Do i have to pass any other exams before trying 70-270? Thanks!

There are no prerequisites prior to 70-270 for Win XP.

It's all right here...
http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/default.asp

janmike

Passing any Microsoft exam required for the MCSA or MCSE tracks makes you an MCP.

Try these links to see requirements for MCSA & MCSE on the Windows 2000 track.

http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcsa/requirements.asp
http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcse/requirements.asp

infini

Thanks for clearing things up! . So if i pass the 70-270 i become an MCP. It is strange that microsoft doesn't report anything about MCSE on Windows XP in this page"
"http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcse/default.asp"
Do you think that trying the 70-270 is the right choice for someone new to microsoft exams or you suggest any alternatives?

mwgood

infini wrote:

Thanks for clearing things up! . So if i pass the 70-270 i become an MCP. It is strange that microsoft doesn't report anything about MCSE on Windows XP in this page"

That is because there is no such animal as "MCSE on Windows XP."

infini wrote:

Do you think that trying the 70-270 is the right choice for someone new to microsoft exams or you suggest any alternatives?

I am starting with 70-270 because, regardless of your time frame, you can then go on either the 2000 or the 2003 MCSA/MCSE track, the 270 is common to both - on top of that, it's a good place to start since XP is current and will be with us for a while.

infini

mwgood you wrote "That is because there is no such animal as "MCSE on Windows XP." . I found this link in the mcgraw-hill site that refers the 70-270 as MCSE/MCSA. . A bit confused again


http://books.mcgraw-hill.com/getbook.php?isbn=0072222972&template=

lazyart

MCSE and MCSA are based on Servers, not Clients. 2000 Pro and XP Pro are clients; 2000 Server and 2003 Server are um, servers.

70-270 (XP Pro) and 70-210 (2000 Pro) are both exams in the MCSA and MCSE tracks, but only one of a series. You can take either exam for 2000 or 2003 series. So the book description is correct in that case-- the exam is part of the path to MCSA/MCSE.

mwgood

infini wrote:

mwgood you wrote "That is because there is no such animal as "MCSE on Windows XP." . I found this link in the mcgraw-hill site that refers the 70-270 as MCSE/MCSA. . A bit confused again

Well, there is MCSE and MCSA on Windows 2000 and on Windows 2003. The 70-270 exam is simply 1 exam on the MCSA/MCSE track.

infini

What do you think about the 70-271 and 70-272 exams comparing to the 70-270? Which one is more difficult and more valuable for finding a job?
I am not very experienced with networks and i have read that the 70-270 exam is is mostly for that

mwgood

infini wrote:

What do you think about the 70-271 and 70-272 exams comparing to the 70-270? Which one is more difficult?

Do you mean 70-290 and 70-291? I don't know about any 271 or 272.

Webmaster

He is referring to the MCDST certification:
www.microsoft.com/mcdst

infini

Check here

http://www.microsoft.com/learning/exams/70-271.asp
http://www.microsoft.com/learning/exams/70-272.asp

mwgood

Ah yes - I see what you mean.

Thanks for pointing those out, I was unaware of the 271 and 272 until now.

lazyart

infini wrote:

What do you think about the 70-271 and 70-272 exams comparing to the 70-270? Which one is more difficult and more valuable for finding a job?
I am not very experienced with networks and i have read that the 70-270 exam is is mostly for that

It depends on what you want to do in your career. If help desk is what you are after then go for MCDST. It still a new cert so I don't know if it has found it's niche yet. I'm sure a lot of techs will dismiss it as something they could do without studying.

Try to find your way to learn some kind of networking. Unless you are working in a repair shop you're gonna need it.

infini

From what i have seen, 70-270 contains all the stuff from 271 plus some much more topics about policies , security and network stuff