CCNP 2010 updates

itdaddy

that is what I read too. I seen a sheet where it breaks it down like that
if you have BSCI and BCMSN you just take TSHOOT to make you a CCNP.
sounds good to me...
I think the BSCI and BCMSN are not changing much just the TSHOOT is that is why they can do that...that is just my opinion.

gorebrush

As I'm sure it has already been iterated in this very thread... Just feels like the CCNP will be devalued, hence my want to trounce the ISCW and ONT ASAP!

qplayed

I'm with you there, taking ont in 2 weeks then BCMSN. i'll leave ISCW for last and hopefully get each of them in one shot

ConstantlyLearning

It's still going to be called CCNP...if it's too late for you to do the ONT and ISCW exams, just study the topics anyway...

networker050184

gorebrush wrote: »

As I'm sure it has already been iterated in this very thread... Just feels like the CCNP will be devalued, hence my want to trounce the ISCW and ONT ASAP!

I say we wait and see the new blueprints. Cisco might keep the majority of the topics and just move them into the new tests. The thing I would think most likely to be gone would be all the wireless with the new CCNP Wirelss certification taking over those portions. Its all a guess until we actually see the blue prints unless someone has some inside knowledge they want to share!

suffah

Will the CCNP really be devalued though?

The CCNA is definitely devalued and you probably couldn't even get an interview with just the CCNA these days, but it will take a long time for recruiters/agencies/etc to catch up on the NP changes. They just want you to have the cert, I don't think they care what topics the cert covers.

Of course, it's a different ballgame once you do get your interview.

Also, if you really feel the NP is devalued, it should push and motivate you to go for the next level!

gorebrush

Well I have many motivators that make me want the CCIE

That fact that I am getting married in under a year and could potentially have kids is motivation enough to get it done out of the way!

billscott92787

gorebrush wrote: »

Well I have many motivators that make me want the CCIE

That fact that I am getting married in under a year and could potentially have kids is motivation enough to get it done out of the way!

Yes that is A LOT of motivation. Do it now before that happens. I am married with two kids, we have one on the way in May. The kids and my wife have actually been my rock and encouragement to keep going and get the CCNP and then the CCIE. It does make it more difficult. But if your significant other understands you want it that bad, they will help you, if not **** HER NOW. LOL Just kidding :P

networker050184

Definitely get it before the kids if you can. I have three and its not easy getting study time in. By the time you feed, wash them and put them to bed its already 8 or 9 o'clock.

ColbyG

That's what wives are for...

networker050184

ColbyNA wrote: »

That's what wives are for...

They are only willing to do it all themselves for so long. I wore that welcome out a few years ago unfortunately

billscott92787

networker050184 wrote: »

They are only willing to do it all themselves for so long. I wore that welcome out a few years ago unfortunately

Yeah I know what you mean. It has to be 50/50 or else Daddy isn't going to be happy, especially in the "bed room." If you know what I mean LOL. That's why I get up at 5:30 every morning to study. Otherwise I'd never get anything done.

gorebrush

My wife to be told me that I could do the CCIE as long as she came to Belgium with me.

She's a keeper, tbh

billscott92787

gorebrush wrote: »

My wife to be told me that I could do the CCIE as long as she came to Belgium with me.

She's a keeper, tbh

Most definitely, if she said that LOL

jovan88

Still no word official word from Cisco? The tension is killing me!

billscott92787

jovan88 wrote: »

Still no word official word from Cisco? The tension is killing me!

Me as well. When are they going to announce it? Come on Cisco

Forsaken_GA

Y'all are starting to act like the apple fanbois waiting for the tablet!

416_guy

Forsaken_GA wrote: »

Y'all are starting to act like the apple fanbois waiting for the tablet!

Sooo true and I'm one of them LOL, I'm also eagerly waiting for Cisco's annoucement so this is REALLY killing me!

Cyanic

They only have a week left if they are planning on announcing in Jan. Probably waiting to announce in Barcelona, like someone already mentioned.

DevilWAH

http://www.informit.com/store/product.aspx?isbn=9781587202438

hi all,

jsut passed my ccna security a few days back and looking at the CCNP i came across it being updates. A few searches and I found this forum... so thought i look around.

the link above is for an office study guide for the new CCNP. see topics below

This official study guide helps you master all the topics on the CCNP SWITCH exam, including

• Network design, implementation, and verification plans
• Switch operation and port configuration
• VLANs, trunks, and VLAN Trunking Protocol (VTP)
• Aggregating switch links
• Spanning Tree Protocol (STP)
• Multilayer switching
• Enterprise campus network design
• Router and supervisor redundancy
• IP telephony
• Wireless LANs
• Switched network security

so it seems the wireless and voice over IP is still there.
to me it looks like better names for the exams would have been
LAN and WAN, as is seems to me this is how the tecnoloogys are split up.
But lets hope cisco release a statment soon with some nice blue prints. looking forward to starting, and as its only 3 exams not i want to have passed them in 6months.
Any way nice to meet you all and look forward to hanging out here a bit.

Forsaken_GA

Well, since Informit actually does the publishing for Cisco Press, I'm guessing that Feb 8th release date is probably pretty close to accurate, so changes should be announced soon. It'd be all kinds of fail for the material to become available before an official announcement of the exams.

Probably pretty accurate, I checked the BCMSN description just to make sure this isn't a copy/paste of the same, so it looks like wireless and voip aren't going anywhere from the CCNP.

mikej412

Forsaken_GA wrote: »

It'd be all kinds of fail for the material to become available before an official announcement of the exams.

Yeah - The Cisco Certification help website seems to have taken down the "answer docs" that were available before

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This answer is no longer available.

suffah

DevilWAH wrote: »

http://www.informit.com/store/product.aspx?isbn=9781587202438

the link above is for an office study guide for the new CCNP. see topics below

This official study guide helps you master all the topics on the CCNP SWITCH exam, including

• Network design, implementation, and verification plans
• Switch operation and port configuration
• VLANs, trunks, and VLAN Trunking Protocol (VTP)
• Aggregating switch links
• Spanning Tree Protocol (STP)
• Multilayer switching
• Enterprise campus network design
• Router and supervisor redundancy
• IP telephony
• Wireless LANs
• Switched network security

so it seems the wireless and voice over IP is still there.
to me it looks like better names for the exams would have been
LAN and WAN, as is seems to me this is how the tecnoloogys are split up.
But lets hope cisco release a statment soon with some nice blue prints. looking forward to starting, and as its only 3 exams not i want to have passed them in 6months.
Any way nice to meet you all and look forward to hanging out here a bit.

Nice catch! Looks almost identical to the BCMSN.

Whoa, after some searching I found the TSHOOT book.

InformIT: CCNP TSHOOT 642-832 Official Certification Guide

CCNP TSHOOT 642-832
Official Certification Guide
Kevin Wallace, CCIE® No. 7945


CCNP TSHOOT Exam Preparation

Master CCNP® TSHOOT 642-832 exam topics
Assess your knowledge with chapter-opening quizzes
Review key concepts with Exam Preparation Tasks
Practice with realistic exam questions on the CD-ROM

The official study guide helps you master all the topics on the CCNP TSHOOT exam, including
Common network maintenance tasks and tools
Troubleshooting models
Cisco IOS® troubleshooting commands and features
Troubleshooting Cisco Catalyst® Switches and STP
Troubleshooting BGP, OSPF, and EIGRP routing protocols
Route redistribution, security, and router performance troubleshooting
IP services and IP communications troubleshooting
IPv6 troubleshooting
Large enterprise network troubleshooting


And for those curious, here's the ROUTE book:

InformIT: CCNP ROUTE 642-902 Official Certification Guide

ColbyG

Looks like ISIS really is gone. Interesting.

suffah

Also, each book is around 500-550 pages. Looking at the Authorized Self Study Guide (BCMSN) book on my desk, it is over 900 pages. :O

gorebrush

What about all the WAN stuff in ISCW?

Is this not relevant?

Seems very strange this

Forsaken_GA

gorebrush wrote: »

What about all the WAN stuff in ISCW?

Is this not relevant?

Seems very strange this

Yeah, looks like most of the security related stuff is gone and QoS. I imagine the amount of Wireless and VoIP covered will be miniscule, and hopefully they confined it to one exam.

I'm interested to get my hands on the TSHOOT book and see if it can teach me something I don't already know

Forsaken_GA

suffah wrote: »

Also, each book is around 500-550 pages. Looking at the Authorized Self Study Guide (BCMSN) book on my desk, it is over 900 pages. :O

That's not real surprising. Those links are to Official Certification Guides, not Authorized Self-Study guides. The current BSCI Official Certification Guide comes in at 672 pages, so the size of those books is not out of line. The Authorized Self-Study Guide's usually go more in depth than the exam cert guides, hence the higher page count

jovan88

gorebrush wrote: »

What about all the WAN stuff in ISCW?

Is this not relevant?

Seems very strange this

Looking at the ROUTE book linked earlier, there are still WAN topics:




Branch Office Broadband Internet Access 650

Broadband Internet Access Basics 650

Branch Router as DHCP Server and Client 652

Branch Office Security 653

Using IPsec Tunnels 654

Branch Routing for the Small Branch 656

Routing in Medium and Large Branches 657

Branch Router Configuration for Broadband Access 659

Understanding DSL Concepts 659

Configuring DSL 661

Configuring NAT 663

Configuring DHCP Server 664

VPN Configuration 664

Configuring an IPsec VPN 665

Configuring GRE Tunnels 666

pureblue

Where's MPLS, IPsec, IS-IS ?
What is cisco thinking.. A well rounded CCNP should now these topics..