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2610 upgrade -vs- new router
bermovick
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After my post on this thread, I checked up the modules that would let me upgrade my 2610's to be more usable, and WOW - $70 for the NM- modules, just to get an extra ethernet port or two!
I'm thinking perhaps just buying a better router, but now that I've thought about it a bit more I'm wondering if it's even necessary.
The 1 10Mb port built-in would let me run ROAS. I'm not certain what a reasonable frame-relay lab would require as I'm not to that point yet.
[EDIT] Or not; just found out the router port has to be FA or greater. bleh.
I don't think a 3rd switch is necessary; my current 2 should be suitable for the VTP I'm currently reviewing. I'm just waiting for my crossover cables now.
Can anyone who's gone through this recently give me a heads up? Anything I get at this point I'd want to last me through the -security, maybe -VoIP and possibly CCNP studies as well.
I'm thinking perhaps just buying a better router, but now that I've thought about it a bit more I'm wondering if it's even necessary.
The 1 10Mb port built-in would let me run ROAS. I'm not certain what a reasonable frame-relay lab would require as I'm not to that point yet.
[EDIT] Or not; just found out the router port has to be FA or greater. bleh.
I don't think a 3rd switch is necessary; my current 2 should be suitable for the VTP I'm currently reviewing. I'm just waiting for my crossover cables now.
Can anyone who's gone through this recently give me a heads up? Anything I get at this point I'd want to last me through the -security, maybe -VoIP and possibly CCNP studies as well.
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Optionsnotgoing2fail Member Posts: 1,138How do you think I feel? I bought a 3620 (which I absolutely love by the way) for $25 off eBay.
Bought 2 modules for it, a daughter card NM-4T so I can turn it into a frame-relay switch and a 2E-2W module so I could have ethernet modules since the router doesn't even come with one!!!
I think the NM-4T was about $40 and so was the 2E-2W...so you will see modules costing more than the router themselves!!!
As for what you're looking to do. It's such a tough question, I ask myself everyday WHAT DO I NEED!
It's hard to think ahead so that you can get equipment that would possibly cover any cert you're looking to take.
A good example are the 3550 switches that I bought. I bought two of the with inline power. Thinking that these L3 babies would cover me for many scenarios, I didn't find out until the CCNP SWITCH that I cannot do PVLAN's on them!!
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Optionsmikej412 Member Posts: 10,086 ■■■■■■■■■■[EDIT] Or not; just found out the router port has to be FA or greater. bleh.
A 261x with 12.2( 8 )T (or greater) IP Plus (or greater) IOS CAN do ROAS (an exception to the "FA rule" ).
You can put an NM-4A/S in your 2600 and use it as a Frame Relay Switch.:mike: Cisco Certifications -- Collect the Entire Set! -
OptionsJSK Member Posts: 166The 1721 is a cheap little router. It can run 12.4 IOS with 32F/64D. Plus it has 2 WIC slots. I see them selling on ebay for $30-40 shipped.
Wendell Odom actually recommends the 1721 even for CCNP labs on a budget. CCNP Shopping Spree ? What to Buy? | NetworkWorld.com Community
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Optionsbermovick Member Posts: 1,135 ■■■■□□□□□□What's IP plus on the legacy IOS names? I don't see anything in the naming conventions that specify that.Latest Completed: CISSP
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Optionsmikej412 Member Posts: 10,086 ■■■■■■■■■■**EDIT - See Mike's post above. I wasn't aware of the ROAS issue **
The 1721 also does SDM.What's IP plus on the legacy IOS names? I don't see anything in the naming conventions that specify that.
Portable Product Sheets - Partner Central
Router Memory, Router Performance, Switch Performance, Modules Cross Reference, etc
There's also a PDF there that explains the IOS naming -- the legacy stuff is at the end of the PDF.:mike: Cisco Certifications -- Collect the Entire Set! -
Optionsbermovick Member Posts: 1,135 ■■■■□□□□□□Yeah; I was looking at a copy of the naming conventions but I don't see anything that obviously stands for IP Plus. I'm going to guess it's s (Plus, or "LAN Only" on Cat6K/7600), as the other that has the word plus seem even less appropriate (ent is Plus (only used with 'telco'), whatever that means).Latest Completed: CISSP
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Optionstiersten Member Posts: 4,505Yeah; I was looking at a copy of the naming conventions but I don't see anything that obviously stands for IP Plus. I'm going to guess it's s (Plus, or "LAN Only" on Cat6K/7600), as the other that has the word plus seem even less appropriate (ent is Plus (only used with 'telco'), whatever that means).
c2500-ik8os-l.122-29b.bin would be:
c2500 = 2500 router
i = IP
k8 = Crypto (DES)
o = Firewall
s = Plus
l = Runs from Flash
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Optionstiersten Member Posts: 4,505I guess a 2600 example would be more useful since this is a thread about 2600 routers!
c2600-ik9o3s-mz
c2600 = 2600 router
i = IP routing
k9 = Crypto (3DES)
o3 = Firewall/IDS
s = Plus
m = Runs from RAM
z = Compressed
So this would be an IOS file for a 2600 that has IP Plus FW/IDS + 3DES which is a compressed image that runs from RAM. It'll load itself into RAM and then decompress before starting. -
Optionstiersten Member Posts: 4,505As this is a 2600, be aware that certain NMs aren't compatible with it. The combo NMs which give you an Ethernet port and something else like WIC slots aren't supported at all. The FE only NMs do unofficially work in a 2600XM but I'm unsure about a plain 2600.
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Optionsbermovick Member Posts: 1,135 ■■■■□□□□□□Yeah, I'm thinking I'm not going to work on upgrading these; for the price to upgrade both I could just get a better router (like an -XM). Especially since I can do ROAS on them, and a 3rd router would (from what I understand from what I've read) make frame-relay better.
OK now I'm confused. REALLY confused.
I was running c2600-i-mz.123-26.bin. File size 7,754,580 bytes.
I also have c2600-jsx-mz.122-8.T.bin. File size 7,398,824 bytes.
I tried copying from tftp. I got the option to erase my current flash which I did since I don't have enough to store both, and get an error that I don't have enough space! How can 7.39MB fit yet 7.05 not!?
R1#dir flash:
[snip]
7864316 bytes total (7864316 bytes free)Latest Completed: CISSP
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Optionstiersten Member Posts: 4,505Yeah, I'm thinking I'm not going to work on upgrading these; for the price to upgrade both I could just get a better router (like an -XM). Especially since I can do ROAS on them, and a 3rd router would (from what I understand from what I've read) make frame-relay better.
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Optionskalebksp Member Posts: 1,033 ■■■■■□□□□□Yeah, I'm thinking I'm not going to work on upgrading these; for the price to upgrade both I could just get a better router (like an -XM). Especially since I can do ROAS on them, and a 3rd router would (from what I understand from what I've read) make frame-relay better.
OK now I'm confused. REALLY confused.
I was running c2600-i-mz.123-26.bin. File size 7,754,580 bytes.
I also have c2600-jsx-mz.122-8.T.bin. File size 7,398,824 bytes.
I tried copying from tftp. I got the option to erase my current flash which I did since I don't have enough to store both, and get an error that I don't have enough space! How can 7.39MB fit yet 7.05 not!?
R1#dir flash:
[snip]
7864316 bytes total (7864316 bytes free)
You probably need to run squeeze flash, which actually removes the files. On some platforms running delete is kind of like dropping a file in the recycle bin in Windows, it still takes up space until you empty the recycle bin. -
Optionsbermovick Member Posts: 1,135 ■■■■□□□□□□Cool; it's amazing the things you learn outside the book heh.Latest Completed: CISSP
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Optionsnotgoing2fail Member Posts: 1,138yeah squeezing is a neat trick and don't forget to also verify the image before trying to load it.