dynamik wrote: » Yea, mostly whining. You'd probably be an MCSE and LPIC-3 if you put as much time into your studies as you did these types of posts *nix certs simply aren't valued as much in those types of community. You're not going to get LPI-2 and have the phone start ringing off the hook. I'm interested in the LPI exams because it's a challenge and something to work towards. Getting proficient enough to pass those exams forces me to expand my knowledge. For me personally, it's going to be far more about personal growth. You'll probably get a similar response that I have from the Linux+, and that is simply being able to show that you have some Linux experience. I've never got a call because of my L+, but many people have commented that it was good that I had some (even just a little) Linux experience. You might want to try contacting and ISP or hosting provider. Those are often predominately Linux and would definitely be filled with tons of entry-level work. You should always get certified in what's most beneficial to you and reflect what you're working/experienced with. The MCSE (don't half-ass it with the MCSA; if you're going to quit half-way, don't bother) will likely be much more beneficial for you, given what you've said. That doesn't mean you can't keep playing with Linux. You can still learn without getting certified.
rogue2shadow wrote: » I'm in a similar mindset as brotha K. I already had in my head that I wasn't going to do MS (though I tried many times to lol) but this put the nail in the coffin.
earweed wrote: » The only thing is that Windows is just about everywhere. You'll be expected to know Linux at a lot of places but the MS certs will carry a lot of weight. I'm currently working on my Linux knowledge and don't have any near future plans to get Linux certs but just be able to use it if I work somewhere that has some linux in place.
dynamik wrote: » You should always get certified in what's most beneficial to you and reflect what you're working/experienced with. The MCSE (don't half-ass it with the MCSA; if you're going to quit half-way, don't bother) will likely be much more beneficial for you, given what you've said. That doesn't mean you can't keep playing with Linux. You can still learn without getting certified.
knwminus wrote: » I just had an epiphany. It is foolish and prideful for me to say “I am not going to support MS or cut my teeth the same ways others have had to.” That’s a haughty mentality and it ends today. MCSX and LPIC-X here I come….at a good pace lol. AFTER I take the security+ next week. See you guys later.
veritas_libertas wrote: » About time! LOL
rogue2shadow wrote: » lol. NOOO!!!!!!! I hate flipping between certs but as the end of everything is finite, MS seems inevitable. If anything, I'll go straight to MCITP and do some messaging as well.
RobertKaucher wrote: » Ok, here is my $0.02 on this topic. Observations: 1. Certs cost money and take time from your family and other things that are potentially more enjoyable than studying for certs. 2. Accepting the above supposition is true certification should have a return in excess to the invested time/money or it is just foolish to get certified. 3. Accepting number 2 as true, and assuming you are not getting certifications simply as a hobby, certification should increase your career/earning potential. 4. If certification is to increase your career/earning potential at *more than* the entry level, it should reflect both your experience and your career path.
RobertKaucher wrote: » Let me explain. A guy working retail who wants to break into IT might go after the Net+/A+ and MCDST certs to get his foot in the door at the support level. A guy currently at the support level might try to break into systems administration by attaining the MCSA/MCSE. A guy working McDonald's who achieves his MCSE with no experience, will benifit from it far less than the guy who has 2 years of systems admin behind him. This is the entry level I am talking about.If you have a 3 to 5 year career plan of breaking into pure network administration or working with Cisco equipment (voice/etc) then I see no point in continuing to certify on MS technologies. If you see yourself staying as an IT generalist for the next 3 years, maybe an MCSA is ok. But I would make this choice based on the 80/20 rule. Dedicate 80% of your time to studying and getting certified with the technology you wish to specialize in. Spend 20% of your time working on the things that will only help you do your current job better. So if you are already working with the technologies you wish to specialize in, I would say spend the next 2 years trying to better yourself professionally from the perspective of your desired specialization.
knwminus wrote: » The best way to get to that type of job is to get to a job that allows you to touch more linux servers. Well to that end, the MCSA/ITP makes sense, as since those jobs are hybrid, knowing more about MS and Linux makes sense to me.
RobertKaucher wrote: » 3. Get involved in the local Linux community. CLUG | All Linux, All the Time This gets your face out there and will help you make contacts. If you are performing well at your job, I would say 2 hours a week spent there will server your career better than 2 hours a week dedicated to studying for your MCSE.
RobertKaucher wrote: » The next thing you know you are grumpy old DBA somewhere who is constantly hounding the network team because of the latency on your wires but really its just resentment ‘cause you left your CCIE dreams in the dust….
phoeneous wrote: » Knw, like I said before, you just need to focus. Don't let the certs manage you, you need to manage what you know.
