zoidberg wrote: » And the owner of Proteus bought me a beer in his pub after I told him I passed the JNCIE-ER lab exam he helped create That's unrelated to the quality of their labs, but still a thumbs up for me The technical experience and background that the people involved with Proteus is pretty impressive. And they've helped craft Juniper exams and labs and courses and books, so I imagine their training programs and labs are top notch.