VCP4 self pay? Am I crazy?
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I'm a contractor and considering going after VCP4. I use ESX 4.1/VMWare on a daily basis, and I've historically done well on exams.
That being said, my parent company does essentially nothing for me, and if I want this cert, I'm on my own. Considering a course is required for this cert, I don't know if I'm crazy thinking of going after it on my own or what.
Has anyone ever self-paid for this or any other expensive-to-get cert? Did you regret it?
That being said, my parent company does essentially nothing for me, and if I want this cert, I'm on my own. Considering a course is required for this cert, I don't know if I'm crazy thinking of going after it on my own or what.
Has anyone ever self-paid for this or any other expensive-to-get cert? Did you regret it?
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1. Self-actualization. As Maslow said, "what a man can be, must be." I'm passionate about virtualization, specifically VMware products. Doing what you love, because you love it is priceless.
2. Because I can
Seriously, You can't go wrong validating your skill set. That VCP will come in handy when you get fed up and decide to look for a new employer who appreciates the effort you put towards the cert.
Go to any IT career fair and mention to the recruiter that you're a VCP. Your resume will most likely move to the top of the pile.
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You can also try the VMware IT Academy Program and possibly get it cheaper through a college:
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I took the ICM course at a public community college... the tuition (5 quarter units), the student and lab guides, plus the exam itself came out to under US $250.
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I am currently taking the vSphere ICM class through UCSC - it's online and costs $1000. I am thoroughly enjoying the content, even though I've been working with VMware for several years, and feel course format is in every way superior to a 5-day track. UCSC provides VPN access to the lab for the entire course duration, so a dedicated student could have up to 3 months of hands-on preparation for the exam in a lab that supports 95% of VCP content.
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I spent a fair chunk of change pursuing my Cisco certs, and to a lesser degree my MS certs. Often, the most expensive certs are the most hard-fought and meaningful ones. By all means, it is a good experience if you can afford it. It also helps you to demonstrate to others and yourself that you don't have to leech off a company to advance (nor do you need to cater to whims of someone who just happened to buy particular training for you).
--Will Rogers
The bigger companies are more likely to offer training because there's usually an allotment for training included in the bigger contracts with DoD (though when I was a supervisor and tried to get training for my guys, my company always made me feel like I was stealing money from the company; so I can see why some supervisors would rather not support training. I said screw it because it was built into the contract so might as well use it for it's intended purpose) And even if they don't, they usually can afford to play bidding war with your potential new employer vs. the smaller companies who may not have quite the same wiggle room.
Sorry, got off topic a bit. Back to your question. Is it worth it? Goodness yes! I tell everyone willing to listen that it's an investment in YOU and although your current company may not value it (by not paying for it) your future company surely will (as the cert may be one of the considerations for extending an offer) As some other posters have said though, do your homework. There are a myriad of offerings that encompass the full spectrum of pricing. Do your homework, look for training options within your budget, and call to find out what you get for the money you pay. Asking questions about training options here is also a good way to screen online offerings, while asking around the shop will usually get you good opinions of local offerings. But definitely look at paying for training not as a cost to you, but an investment in your career and your future. It's still going to be a bite in your wallet, but knowing that it will lead you to bigger and better lessens the sting!
As an aside, I used to live in Vegas, and was thinking about attending the Cisco Academy with CCSN's Cheyenne campus right off base before I ended up moving away. Have you checked with them to see if they offer VMWare training? They have Micrsoft training and usually VMWare training goes hand in hand so they may be a VMWare academy as well.
VMWare seems to be really hot right now, lots of companies looking for people that know what they're doing with it. If you can afford to do it on your own, do yourself a favor and invest in yourself by getting it done.
If the VCP would get you a job for $130k / year, then surely you should be able to find a way to afford the course ? Seems like a no brainer .. even if it means begging for money (bank / credit card / family / friends / current employer (sneaky I know))
Positions will probably be filled by the time I finished it. I am finishing final round interviews for other opportunities that will pay me 6 figures to work from home full time for my Exchange, AD, and Blackberry skills. Working from home full time rather than having to commute 1.5 to 2 hours 1 way is worth the slightly lower salary. Plus if I get one of these, they will probably pay for me to get the training and the cert, and even if they didn't, it will be enough of a salary increase for me to be able to afford to pay cash for it out of my own pocket, without having to worry about borrowing the funds.
I'm going to look at my options and try to find the most affordable route that also doesn't interfere with my current job. As a contractor, if I don't work I don't get paid, so an extended after-hours course, whether online or instructor led or whatever is going to be my preference.
Good info!
This is a pretty cool forum. I might stick around!
Cheers
Awesome - thanks for the links. I'm going to try to find an online course.
I am curious can you provide the link to UCSC vSphere course @ UCSC?
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I am also a DoD contractor so certs are highly desirable for certain contracts. I don't know if that is the same everywhere though.
Besides, it's pocket change compared to what people spend on CCIE:Voice and Security labs
Good point!:)
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One scenario that worked for me is offering to pay for half of the class. That and telling them that regardless of their decision I was going to this class even if I had to cover the entire cost.. In the end they paid for the class.
Good luck and welcome to Techexams.
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Just followed the link and was surprised to find that it is an online class. Heck anybody could take it regardless of where they are located. No wonder the class is wait-listed till fall.
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That being said, I was going to pay for my own after my employer said no multiple times, finally I told them Im going to pay for it on my own and my boss got serious about getting the company to pay for it, I am part of the same contractor type situation you are.
I believe paying for it on your own isn't a bad idea, just make sure you study hard before the class so you get the most out of it, VCP is fairly difficult, lots to know.
MCSA 2003, LFCS, LFCE (expired), VCP6-DCV
mineaswell since passing this test either takes years of being a contractor using VMware in every known possible way 5 times over or cramming your head with endless leaked questions (that the exam writers in turn keeps tweaking into obscurity)
SO, as someone who just passed it today on my second try (just missed the first time) I have to say TAKE IT ASAP.. since it will just get harder and harder as more questions get leaked..
Seriously, I built a whole lab from scratch over the last year and that knowledge meant about 15% of the test.. so i don't even know what it means to pass anymore since obviously I have been using it in a department in major corp with 50 people relying on me and taking everything for granted
but hey, now I can be part of the 'in' club when going to VMWorld next month