How much subnetting is there in the new ICND1?

Msafiri

I see that Cisco says they have move to a more "knowledge based" testing? Meaning much more simulations compared to multiple choice, I was wondering if they still have a strong emphasis on subnetting or if that has been reduced.

cyberguypr

It is a key concept. I took the exam last week and was happy to see that all those hours spent practicing subnetting paid off.

pham0329

from what I can remember on the ICDN1 and ICDN2, subnetting is everywhere. If you can't subnet, or if you're not very good at it, you'll have a hard time passing.

Also, the questions are scenario based, meaning it's not "what network is x.x.x.x on", but rather, you're given a diagram and is expected to know what network each host is on.

descender421

Agreed with the others. Know your subnetting like the back of your hand.

alan2308

Msafiri wrote: »

I see that Cisco says they have move to a more "knowledge based" testing? Meaning much more simulations compared to multiple choice, I was wondering if they still have a strong emphasis on subnetting or if that has been reduced.

Knowing subnetting can be part of solving a simulation. A host with an IP address on the wrong network would have a huge impact on connectivity, for example. More simulations (if that is the case) does not mean less subnetting.

SurferdudeHB

Is there a online source where you can take practice diagram based subnetting problems?

hiddenknight821

SurferdudeHB wrote: »

Is there a online source where you can take practice diagram based subnetting problems?

I don't see why you need this. Subnetting links like this is more than enough for subnetting practice, and I personally guarantee you it will prepare you for many diagram-based problems very well.

cyberguypr

hiddenknight821 wrote: »

I don't see why you need this. Subnetting links like this is more than enough for subnetting practice, and I personally guarantee you it will prepare you for many diagram-based problems very well.

Hidden's link and this one were my only sources to practice subnetting.

SurferdudeHB

hiddenknight821 wrote: »

I don't see why you need this. Subnetting links like this is more than enough for subnetting practice, and I personally guarantee you it will prepare you for many diagram-based problems very well.

Ok I've been using that site. I guess subnetting looks different when it's in worded in a problem.

martell1000

you should be able to do subnetting in your head - in under 30 secs

my advise is - user your fingers and start with a /24

Msafiri

martell1000 wrote: »

you should be able to do subnetting in your head - in under 30 secs

my advise is - user your fingers and start with a /24

That's just silly, you don't need to do it in your head.

Deathgomper

Find a system that works for you and be able to it under 30 seconds. I think it's best to be able to do it in your head because you will start to run out of fingers if you take the ICND2 with vlsm. Not to mention it will look like your doing sign language during the exam and at work.

hiddenknight821

Deathgomper wrote: »

I think it's best to be able to do it in your head because you will start to run out of fingers if you take the ICND2 with vlsm. Not to mention it will look like your doing sign language during the exam and at work.

Definitely not gonna be a problem for me! Since I'm actually a sign-language user, I don't feel embarrassed counting with my hands. Believe it or not, I can count beyond 10 with my hands. There are sign languages for numbers > 10.

jibbajabba

hiddenknight821 wrote: »

I don't see why you need this. Subnetting links like this is more than enough for subnetting practice, and I personally guarantee you it will prepare you for many diagram-based problems very well.

LOVE that one (even though I suck at it lol)

Msafiri

Well I passed, can confirm that Cisco are still much in love with subnetting.
Finished comfortably with about 40min left, I had the 30 min foreign language extension so that's like 10min left if you don't have that. I wouldn't say it was hard, and you don't need crazy subnetting speed to finish 1-2min is fine. I used the CBT Nuggets method mostly with some tweaks.

System had some problem logging me in so that sucked had to wait like 1 hour while the called around.

Deathgomper

Congratz!!!!!!!!

What's is next on the horizon ?

GOZCU

I got exam today, And surprisingly there were too many simulation questions. some of them includes 4 sub questions per one simulation like 1a.1b.1c.1d And sub netting? Maybe 5.....

BlueEyedSamurai

Lots.......enjoy.

-Samurai

Msafiri

Deathgomper wrote: »

Congratz!!!!!!!!

What's is next on the horizon ?

ICND2! Hopefully next week

Msafiri

GOZCU wrote: »

I got exam today, And surprisingly there were too many simulation questions. some of them includes 4 sub questions per one simulation like 1a.1b.1c.1d And sub netting? Maybe 5.....

Yep that's the direction they are going with.
Tip: be very comfortable with all the show commands and know where to find what info.