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undomiel wrote: » The easiest way of doing this is turning in your 2 week/30 day/whatever is requested notice. No matter how secure you feel with your boss and your employer do not tell them that you are searching around. No employer is worth endangering your livelihood over. Don't tell anyone you are looking until you have a job offer in hand and are ready to turn in your notice. When your boss finds out you are looking you will be seen as a liability and will be short listed for replacement.
jmreicha wrote: » Thanks, I've sort of been leaning towards that approach. Unfortunately I do not have a new job in hand yet, just a number of leads so I am not sure I want to pull the trigger right away. To make matters more interesting, some of these leads would require me to take time away from work and of course I do not have any vacation time so I would need to take unpaid sick time, which I think might look suspicious. What do you think?
tbgree00 wrote: » If you don't a bad job is likely better than no job at all.
tbgree00 wrote: » As for looking suspicious you're about to resign based on leads. Take the time, tell people you have appointments, and start dressing nice but not in suits. When I was interviewing while working the contract I wore slacks, long sleeve solid button ups without ties, and nice shoes a few days a week as soon as I had my first phone interview. Then on interview days I looked nice as I occasionally did anyway. In my car was a tie and jacket just waiting. My boss didn't mind me taking the time because I would work late to make it up.
jmreicha wrote: » The theme seems to be "stick with your job until you have an offer in hand" and "don't tell your employer you're looking around". I want to thank everyone for the advice. I had never really thought of that before, thanks. Building on that idea, what then are some good other good ways of masquerading other interviews? Like I said earlier, I don't have any vacation time left. Would it be acceptable to just tell them I am sick or have other appointments?
Everyone wrote: » Most places will be willing to work around your schedule for an interview. If they aren't, you may not want to work for them anyway.
DPG wrote: » Make sure not to burn bridges with your previous employer. 2 weeks notice is a greatly appreciated. Keep this in mind when negotiating a start date with your new employer. My policy is it to allow those who give 2 weeks notice to be rehirable. Those who quit on the spot are looked upon much less favorably.
Turgon wrote: » Correct. On the two previous occasions I leveled with a previous employer that I was going to look around they were actually relaxed about it and supportive, but it was early in my career I suppose they expected that I would move along in due course. I was even upfront when hired on my second job that I was committed for the next year at least but that I wanted to get on. So it was no surprise when after 12 months I put my cards down with my boss. He took it pretty well and I even discussed my offers with him ( I had two on the table in short order). I wouldn't take this approach today. Be sure to keep your mouth shut at work about 'looking around'. Dont trust your mates. It's nobody elses business and you could get shafted by your employer if they learn you are looking. Let's face it, you might not find what you are looking for and need to stay there 2 more years!! However well meaning your intentions might be dont tell until you have an offer you want to accept.<br> Get the job offer, quietly.
Version4 wrote: » a) Be sure that you really want to leave and you can afford it financially b) Under no circumstances should you withdraw your 2 week notice, once you have submitted it, do not turn back c) Do not accept counter offers or "mercy promotions" - these ploys were thrown my way, the time for bargaining should have been done at review time, reject these last minute efforts to get you to stay with a respectful attitude d) "This is just business" is an acceptable theme here, remember that your employer does not have your best interests in mind
Devilry wrote: » I don't agree with this at all. If you are happy, none of that is good advice. Lots of people enjoy their jobs and are underpaid. If the employer decides to give you the money voluntarily or because you put in a notice, either way is good if it makes you and your wallet happy. Pride doesn't get anyone very far. Business is bushiness, it works both ways, you aren't going to volunteer overtime every day of the year, so they are not going to volunteer a pay raise constantly. just my IMHO, nothing against version4, just my point of view.
Anonymouse wrote: » If they give you a counter offer and you decide to stay do you think there's any breakdown in trust between the employer and you later on down the road?
drew726 wrote: » What if its a really small company with no HR, does it still have to be so formal? Including a writing a letter etc?
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