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  • QordQord Member Posts: 632 ■■■■□□□□□□
    My vote goes to Android, but mine is an unfair vote. I'm an apple-basher. Not because they make a sub-standard product, I know they don't do that, but because I'm poor and cheap. I'm also opinionated, and no apple product is worth the price in my opinion. I understand that that they are good products, but I will never support them until they meet a price point worthy of my expense. I recently moved from Blackberry to Droid, and I love it! There are things I miss about my BB, but overall I have no legitimate complaints with my Droid. I knew the battery life was going to be garbage, and I was pleasantly surprised when I found that it really lasts all day (which is longer than my BB battery lasted). I have a few petty gripes like email layout/format, but no complaints that have legitimate substance.

    Yes, there is a lot of unremovable bloatware on them by default, and you can either root and remove, ignore, or cry about it. I choose to ignore for now. As soon as my warranty is up, I'll probably root and remove.

    Something brought up already was the plethora of "options" in Droid OS's...this is the kind of thing that makes the open source world so great!! You have options! Or is this a case of too much freedom? It can be daunting I suppose, but it's really not that big a deal. And, again in my opinion, this is one of those petty gripes that really has no legitimate substance behind it. I had a tough time deciding which phone to get, and it ultimately came down to wanting a full slide-out keyboard, not the software version on the phone.

    All in all, what it really comes down to is preference. That's really about it. Do you love Apple in general, and the ability to seamlessly sync? Then go iphone. Do you love the ability to actually have control over your device? Then go droid. I think Apple and all the Droid phone manufacturers all make decent products, but for what I wanted in a phone, a Droid was the way to go.
  • Forsaken_GAForsaken_GA Member Posts: 4,024
    Qord wrote: »
    All in all, what it really comes down to is preference. That's really about it. Do you love Apple in general, and the ability to seamlessly sync? Then go iphone. Do you love the ability to actually have control over your device? Then go droid.

    That's a bit a misnomer. I have perfect control over my device. It does exactly what I need, and exactly what I tell it. What you actually mean is the ability to modify the device at your discretion, and the amount of people interested in that is a very small minority. When you reach a point where you can charge $200-300 (or more) an hour for your services, you begin to have a major appreciation for devices that just work and don't get in your way.

    Droids are toys for folks who want to spend their time tinkering. I suspect you'd be very hard pressed to show me any real benefit to productivity in being able to modify your device at will (and I can show you plenty of lost productivity in people tinkering with their phones). There are no glaring oversights and omissions from iOS that give Android a significant benefit over it.
  • QordQord Member Posts: 632 ■■■■□□□□□□
    That's a bit a misnomer. I have perfect control over my device. It does exactly what I need, and exactly what I tell it. What you actually mean is the ability to modify the device at your discretion, and the amount of people interested in that is a very small minority. When you reach a point where you can charge $200-300 (or more) an hour for your services, you begin to have a major appreciation for devices that just work and don't get in your way.

    Droids are toys for folks who want to spend their time tinkering. I suspect you'd be very hard pressed to show me any real benefit to productivity in being able to modify your device at will (and I can show you plenty of lost productivity in people tinkering with their phones). There are no glaring oversights and omissions from iOS that give Android a significant benefit over it.

    Well said sir. I thought I was careful in my word choice, but I see I was not. You are correct there.

    You are also correct that I'd be hard pressed to show any benefit to productivity, outside of being able to run home-grown software more easily on a droid than on an iphone. Some people depend on options like that(my boss is one), although I am not one of those.

    That being said, I still think it's a preference issue, not a technical one. Neither one is necessarily "better" than the other.
  • Forsaken_GAForsaken_GA Member Posts: 4,024
    Qord wrote: »
    That being said, I still think it's a preference issue, not a technical one. Neither one is necessarily "better" than the other.

    Yup. As I said before, you choose the best tool at the price you're willing to pay and you run with it. What works for you may not work well for other folks, and vice versa. Far too many folks spend way too much time justifying why their choice is more correct than someone elses (and usually using someone elses words) instead of simply having the security to say 'this is what I like, this is what works for me.'

    I don't give a crap what any of you use for your smartphone, it has absolutely zero effect on me. The iPhone and my various other Apple products are what work best for me, and I'm willing to pay for them. It would be absolutely silly for me to evangelize my choices, I'm not that insecure.
  • whatthehellwhatthehell Member Posts: 920
    I have never owned an Iphone, but I have had many ipods though. I recently had to decide between the Iphone and an Android phone. I went with a Samsung Galaxy S2 --- love it!

    The only reason I would really like to have an Iphone is because of all the other apps that I could get through Itunes that Android doesn't have. Nowadays, the more popular apps are on both platforms, but there are some games and apps (like Infinity Blade) that I would love to have on my Android. For me, I think that is the main difference -- the app development and availability.
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  • tpatt100tpatt100 Member Posts: 2,991 ■■■■■■■■■□
    I really like the Samsung Galaxy S2 but I always end up on a carrier that doesn't have the phone I want or I go there and find out my last carrier has the phone I want.
  • JinuyrJinuyr Member Posts: 251 ■■□□□□□□□□
    For work, definitely an Android phone. For play, it has to be a high Android tablet since the lower end Android models are very poor and buggy. The alternative for play is of course an Apple product but I do not like their stuff. Work supplies them and they just turn into paper weights with me. icon_wink.gif
  • networker050184networker050184 Mod Posts: 11,962 Mod
    Akaricloud wrote: »
    I carry both an Android and iOS phone on me 24/7, but I'm much more of an iPhone person now.

    Sure you give up a bit of flexibility by using iOS in apps allowed, devices to choose from, ect. but in my opinion that comes with much reward. iOS is cleaner with a more consistent UI that works when you need it to. While everything you can do with a smartphone is awesome, when you get down to it most users surf the web, check their email, text message and make phone calls 95% of the time. What I look for in a phone is one that does these tasks flawlessly first time every time without hassle.

    My iPhone works nearly flawlessly all the time whereas my Android device's browser locks up, alerts freeze, text messaging breaks and email UI is painful to use.

    Android phones are great fun to play with but after a long day of work I really, really just want my cell phone to work for simple tasks.

    This basically sums up my experience as well.
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  • NobylspoonNobylspoon Member Posts: 620 ■■■□□□□□□□
    My first iPod was a 2nd Gen almost 10 years ago. I have since owned Nano, Video and Touch editions. I actually used my 2nd Gen Touch as a phone replacement (Skype, SMS app and MiFi). When the HTC Evo released 2 years ago, I decided to jump ship and give it a try and I haven't looked back since.

    I still use my Evo today. I am always flashing a new ROM and it feels like a brand new phone each time I do. I also have a Xoom which has been rooted and overclocked. Good luck running Backtrack 5 on your iPad. I now have an android powered watch (MotoACTV).

    Apple products are too restricted and I hate having to jump through hoops dealing with iTunes just to transfer a PDF, MP3 or video. Android has simplified the process by allowing drag and drop.

    However, if someone has an iPhone, I always suggest iPad when they ask about tablets. This is the same reason I suggest an android tablet for someone with an Android phone. If you have already invested in a lot of apps, might as well stick to the matching brand so you don't have to repurchase them.

    This is such a touch subject though. People are too damn sensitive on the topic. It often seems there is less emotion when engaging in religious debates.
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  • Forsaken_GAForsaken_GA Member Posts: 4,024
    Nobylspoon wrote: »
    Good luck running Backtrack 5 on your iPad.

    This is one of those corner case things. I wouldn't *want* to. I'd rather boot up my BackTrack VM on my MacBookPro then struggle with trying to do productive work on a device meant for consumption. I also do not use my iPad to manage my routers and switches, even though I can, that's what network management stations are for.
  • tpatt100tpatt100 Member Posts: 2,991 ■■■■■■■■■□
    This is one of those corner case things. I wouldn't *want* to. I'd rather boot up my BackTrack VM on my MacBookPro then struggle with trying to do productive work on a device meant for consumption. I also do not use my iPad to manage my routers and switches, even though I can, that's what network management stations are for.

    This is how I feel. I love my iPad for when I want to read, or take it to the local coffee shop to do some studying for a couple of hours. Much easier than before when I had to lug my laptop bag with me.
  • getitngogetitngo Member Posts: 44 ■■□□□□□□□□
    For work I recently requested an iPhone 4s because of the stability. For personal use I have an Android Phone (Samsung Charge) & Tablet (Motorola Xoom). I love the flexibility of my android devices. I don't think I will choose to have iOS device for personal use because of all the restrictions.
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  • Ch@rl!3m0ngCh@rl!3m0ng Member Posts: 139
    That's a bit a misnomer. I have perfect control over my device. It does exactly what I need, and exactly what I tell it. What you actually mean is the ability to modify the device at your discretion, and the amount of people interested in that is a very small minority. When you reach a point where you can charge $200-300 (or more) an hour for your services, you begin to have a major appreciation for devices that just work and don't get in your way.

    Droids are toys for folks who want to spend their time tinkering. I suspect you'd be very hard pressed to show me any real benefit to productivity in being able to modify your device at will (and I can show you plenty of lost productivity in people tinkering with their phones). There are no glaring oversights and omissions from iOS that give Android a significant benefit over it.

    I dont really agree with this as when I got my HTC desire and it was running stock the battery life was shocking due to all the bloatware on it. Once I rooted it and flashed it with gingerbread the battery life doubled. It also gave me a I have a new phone feeling. Like most geeks if I get a new piece of Tech I feel like a kid in a sweet shop. icon_smile.gif

    As for the device just working I Personally have never had any issues with Andriod running Stock. I get my HTC One X as soon as it comes out. and it will remain on stock for quiet some time as ICS looks good on it and am hoping the processor will help increase the battery life.
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  • Ch@rl!3m0ngCh@rl!3m0ng Member Posts: 139
    My work currently uses andriod phones but they ae looking to move to Iphones as they are " More secure". Cant really coment on this as I dont really know. I also seem to remember reading that hackers are developing viruses for iphone due to the level of employees who normally get given these.

    But this aside I Prefer Andriod and just want to know why others do or dont. And their reasons for this?
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  • tpatt100tpatt100 Member Posts: 2,991 ■■■■■■■■■□
    The only reason I would think employers would think the iPhone is more secure is because the OS is the same across all the phones. Android can be modified by the manufacturer so that could be a possibility for vulnerabilities, plus the app store is pretty open.

    The only thing I noticed when I switched to Android is I rarely get phone OS updates so for all I know I could be sitting on a vulnerability for quite some time.
  • tpatt100tpatt100 Member Posts: 2,991 ■■■■■■■■■□
    Grrrrr!!! who ever designed the Droid Razr needs to get their engineering degree taken away. Stupid SD card/ Data card cover flap has a tendency to pop open. I never open it besides the time I first got the phone to install the cards but dang... So it pops open and there goes your cards coming out a bit losing connection.

    So close to throwing this phone on ebay and getting a Nexus.
  • Ch@rl!3m0ngCh@rl!3m0ng Member Posts: 139
    tpatt100 wrote: »
    Grrrrr!!! who ever designed the Droid Razr needs to get their engineering degree taken away. Stupid SD card/ Data card cover flap has a tendency to pop open. I never open it besides the time I first got the phone to install the cards but dang... So it pops open and there goes your cards coming out a bit losing connection.

    So close to throwing this phone on ebay and getting a Nexus.

    Wait till end of month and get a One X. Quadcore phone hhhhhmmmmm Drool icon_smile.gif

    Have mine on pre order along with the box so I can stream it to the TV. Sweet free sky sports with orange!!
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  • techsartechsar Registered Users Posts: 1 ■□□□□□□□□□
    Apple obviously has many advantages over Android as for the phone concerned. As for the development on Android and iOS, there always will be a dispute.
  • MutataMutata Member Posts: 176
    The number of people complaining about Android bloatware is amusing. I think it lends itself to people not researching their device before they purchase it. The fact is, the overwhelming majority of vendors re-skin and customize their Android and include a whole lot of junk. This is not a result of the OS but the vendors choice. It's not Androids fault that these vendors release sub-par applications. I think this gives Apple quite a leg-up because people know that they they purchase an i-whatever they are going to get a consistent experience across devices/models.

    Personally, I love my Android. I have also exclusively lived in the Google Nexus line of products. I have base Android and have done 0 rooting/fiddling and overall screwing around with my phone. I have had multiple device/models and have found my experience to be consistent.

    I have an iPhone 6s for work, the device functions just fine and I have very few qualms with it. I guess I'm just less in love with it than everyone else
  • networker050184networker050184 Mod Posts: 11,962 Mod
    Keep in mind these opinions are four years old at this point. That is a life time in terms of cell phones these days!
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  • Codeman6669Codeman6669 Member Posts: 227
    With my experience with Apple and Android, I very much choose android. My job in the networking environment as showed me a few things that make me like android over apple any day.

    Apple:
    If you have a multi access point enviroment, apple devices stick to one AP until the signal is completely unusable. Before handing off to the next access point. Androids dont have this issue, they roam to the next access point when the signal is still usable

    Apple:
    Ping an apple device, and you will see it's ping response is delayed compared to an andoid phone. Its not abnormal to ping from router to apple device and get erratic times, even in the 100's. When the android will ping lower times and more consistent (given the wifi environment). For troubleshooting purposes, Ill install a app like ping tools on android, and ping the router IP from the device, instead of router to device because of this reason.

    Apple devices, sometimes hold on to an IP address, or a DNS server address. So when you go to another wifi network and your internet dosnt work because it hung onto some DNS server from the hotel you were at. You will go pay apple $100 to fix it. Or pay a guy like me 100 to reset your network settings. :P

    Android:
    People believe its less secure, but its not. This is user dependent. In fact androids have way more settings to improve security that apple does not.
    You need to buy the high end android to compare to the apple devices. It will walk all over them. Dont expect to buy a 200$ android, and then switch to a $600 iphone and think android is all junk. Get the flagships, htc10, Galaxy S7 etc.

    What people dont realize is as there is different andoid revisions, there is different revisions of IOS. Android just chooses to name them fun names. Its just the next revision though and apple gets those too.
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  • ThomasITguyThomasITguy Banned Posts: 181
    I like both... I used to work for Samsung as a independent retailer.... and honestly samsung had more issues then apple did. I like apple because its "what you see is what you get" with Android especially samsung its over hyped and every few months they come out with a new phone with the same features as the phone that came out before it....

    ex. Galaxy s7 comes out. then note 6 comes out with the same features as the s7.

    Other then that I like both... and I use both. Android is more unstable but with apple there is more stability.

    just my 0.02

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  • varelgvarelg Banned Posts: 790
    I started using Android just because iPhone was way out of my budget when it came out, and at the time I had Blackberry and was happy with it. I am sticking with what works and don't feel any need to switch from Android, nor am willing to go through travails that switching to another platform involves. Unless Apple comes out with some tremendous battery improvement. Till then...
  • TomkoTechTomkoTech Member Posts: 438
    My only complaint about Android involves exchange email set up. Autodiscover works perfectly on every apple I have ever set up for clients, however I have never had an android not require manual setup. Couple that with the fact that just about every android has a different interface it makes walking clients through manual setup a pain.
  • tpatt100tpatt100 Member Posts: 2,991 ■■■■■■■■■□
    I kinda of want to flip flop every year because I like the latest Samsung Edge because it's got that "Star Trek" vibe going on. Only issue is everybody in my family circle is on iOS and they switched to iCloud Photo sharing instead of Facebook and I don't do Facebook.
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