Teacher has me confused; Am I over thinking this problem?
HappyFeet
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Im taking a networking class and my teacher returned my test with one of my question wrong with zero credit, however I think I had the question correct. He is currently looking over it to see if I will get any credit for the problem.
Here is the problem I got no credit for.
I looked at another student paper that got it correct and he had " 255.255.255.0 " for part A
and "255.255.0.0 "
Here is what put summarized..
The customer had put a range on the subnets ( at least 200) and a limit on the hosts ( max of 200).
Part A
Asked to max out subnets, therefore I used 255.255.255.252 which was 4.19 x 10^6 subnets with 2 hosts per subnet. The customer said a max of 200 hosts so 2 hosts per subnet was with in the max of 200 hosts.
Part B
Asked to max out hosts, therefore I used 255.255.255.128 which was 2^7  2 = 126 hosts per subnet which meet the 200 hosts per subnet max set by the customer. And meet the 200 subnets min.
Here is the problem I got no credit for.
1. You design a network for a customer, and the customer insists that you use the same subnet mask on every subnet. The customer will use network 10.0.0.0 and needs 200 subnets, each with 200 hosts maximum.
a. What subnet mask would you use to allow the largest amount of growth in subnets?
b. Which mask would you work and would allow for the most growth in the number of hosts per subnet.
I looked at another student paper that got it correct and he had " 255.255.255.0 " for part A
and "255.255.0.0 "
Here is what put summarized..
The customer had put a range on the subnets ( at least 200) and a limit on the hosts ( max of 200).
Part A
Asked to max out subnets, therefore I used 255.255.255.252 which was 4.19 x 10^6 subnets with 2 hosts per subnet. The customer said a max of 200 hosts so 2 hosts per subnet was with in the max of 200 hosts.
Part B
Asked to max out hosts, therefore I used 255.255.255.128 which was 2^7  2 = 126 hosts per subnet which meet the 200 hosts per subnet max set by the customer. And meet the 200 subnets min.
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MosGuy Member Posts: 195My answers would be:
a) largest amount of growth in subnets
255.255.255.0 /24
11111111.11111111.11111111.00000000
subnets: 65,536 & hosts: 254
b) most growth in the number of hosts per subnet
255.255.0.0 /16
11111111.11111111.00000000.00000000
256 total subnets & 65,534 hosts
The wording is tricky as it states "the customer insists that you use the same mask on every subnet". Implying it might be after a single answer. In which case of the two a /16 Is likely the one I'd go with if only one mask. Even though the number of hosts per subnet is huge. Hopefully your teacher will clarify things
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NetworkVeteran Member Posts: 2,338 ■■■■■■■■□□1. You design a network for a customer, and the customer insists that you use the same subnet mask on every subnet. The customer will use network 10.0.0.0 and needs 200 subnets, each with 200 hosts maximum.
a. What subnet mask would you use to allow the largest amount of growth in subnets?
b. Which mask would you work and would allow for the most growth in the number of hosts per subnet.
The correct answers:
(a) 255.255.255.0 allows the most subnet growth: over 65000 subnets and over 250 hosts.
(b) 255.255.0.0 allows the most subnet growth: over 250 subnets and over 65000 hosts.Your answers wrote:Asked to max out subnets, therefore I used 255.255.255.252 which was 4.19 x 10^6 subnets with 2 hosts per subnet. The customer said a max of 200 hosts so 2 hosts per subnet was with in the max of 200 hosts.
Asked to max out hosts, therefore I used 255.255.255.128 which was 2^7  2 = 126 hosts per subnet which meet the 200 hosts per subnet max set by the customer. And meet the 200 subnets min.
Maximum  The greatest quantity or degree reached or recorded; the upper limit of variation.
By definition, the maximum amount must be attainable. Your answers which only allow 2 or 126 hosts per subnet are wrong. 
lantech Member Posts: 329Remember, you always have to meet the max requirements for both subnets and hosts.2012 Certification Goals
CCENT: 04/16/2012
CCNA: TBD 
HappyFeet Registered Users Posts: 2 ■□□□□□□□□□NetworkVeteran wrote: »The correct answers:
(a) 255.255.255.0 allows the most subnet growth: over 65000 subnets and over 250 hosts.
(b) 255.255.0.0 allows the most subnet growth: over 250 subnets and over 65000 hosts.
Maximum  The greatest quantity or degree reached or recorded; the upper limit of variation.
By definition, the maximum amount must be attainable. Your answers which only allow 2 or 126 hosts per subnet are wrong.
Thanks everyone for clearing that up for me. 
fadhil Member Posts: 200I think my answer will be: first should make sure when answering these questions requirement are met. 200 subnets and 200 hosts. find the borrowing bits. where 2^n = no. of subnets. we get 8 borrowing bits.so from our default subnet mask, must turn on 8 lest most part f host portion.then the subnet will be 255.255.0.0. for part A. since there is range a great range of increasing number of subnet without affecting number of host.therefore the answer is 255.255.255.0 with host 2^8 2 =254 and subnets of 2^16= 65536 here,there are maximum 254 host per subnet. for part B here 255.255.0.0 with subnets 256 and hosts 65534 per subnet. so many hosts per subnet