6500 Useful for a CCNA Lab?

JinuyrJinuyr Member Posts: 251 ■■□□□□□□□□
I may be able to get my hands on a 6500 series device, will this be useful for a CCENT/CCNA lab? Price tag of $100 seemed like it was a good deal.

- Jinuyr

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  • SomnipotentSomnipotent Member Posts: 384
    That's a huge switch. Does it come with line cards or is it $100 for just the chassis? Could be useful for CCNP but CCNA, it's a bit of an overkill.
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  • JinuyrJinuyr Member Posts: 251 ■■□□□□□□□□
    Bells and whistles. It was a retired core switch.
  • RTmarcRTmarc Member Posts: 1,082 ■■■□□□□□□□
    Do you have a 208/220v plug in your house?
  • MrXpertMrXpert Member Posts: 586 ■■■□□□□□□□
    RTmarc wrote: »
    Do you have a 208/220v plug in your house?

    I think he's American in which case, wouldn't it be 110V?
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  • RTmarcRTmarc Member Posts: 1,082 ■■■□□□□□□□
    Most circuits in a residence will be 110v; which is exactly my point. Unless he has a 208/220v circuit in his house he's going to have trouble keeping the switch powered. 208/220v is common in the business setting here.
  • NetworkVeteranNetworkVeteran Member Posts: 2,338 ■■■■■■■■□□
    Jinuyr wrote: »
    I may be able to get my hands on a 6500 series device, will this be useful for a CCENT/CCNA lab? Price tag of $100 seemed like it was a good deal.

    - Jinuyr
    Yeah, a 6500 is helpful for the CCNA, CCNP, and CCIE. The key would be ensuring the supervisor engine it comes with supports a modern IOS image and not legacy CatOS.
  • JinuyrJinuyr Member Posts: 251 ■■□□□□□□□□
    Power is not that much of a problem. So long as it has a form of usefulness towards my certification, it's okay.

    Thanks for the input folks! :D
  • chrisonechrisone Member Posts: 2,278 ■■■■■■■■■□
    If you mean one 6500 for your CCNA studies then no it will not help you. You need a lab with multiple routers and switches. You need to play with multiple switches for STP, etherchannel, etc. You need multiple routers to recieve routes and test failover scenarios with dynamic routing protocols, etc.

    i say get it for 6500 practice and add it to your overall lab that should consist of multiple switches and routers.
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  • NetworkVeteranNetworkVeteran Member Posts: 2,338 ■■■■■■■■□□
    You need a lab with multiple routers

    GNS3 provides that.
    You need a lab with multiple routers and switches.

    You can carve a 6500 up into multiple virtual switches, again, with a modern IOS. :)
  • chrisonechrisone Member Posts: 2,278 ■■■■■■■■■□
    GNS3 provides that.



    You can carve a 6500 up into multiple virtual switches, again, with a modern IOS. :)

    Yeah GNS3 is obvious, but it doesnt run inside a 6500 now does it?

    Virtual switches inside a 6500? thats honestly pretty cool, how is it done and what IOS does that? Is there a specific supervisor needed? I am eager to know , thanks!

    or are you talking about VRF? , which is virtual routing.
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  • NetworkVeteranNetworkVeteran Member Posts: 2,338 ■■■■■■■■□□
    chrisone wrote: »
    Virtual switches inside a 6500? thats honestly pretty cool, how is it done and what IOS does that? Is there a specific supervisor needed? I am eager to know , thanks!

    Yes, VRF-Lite is nifty for getting multiple "routers" out of a 6500. I thought there might be a way to rig a similar thing using L2 VFIs, and there is, but only with the Supervisor 2T. Which he is not getting for $100! And most systems in the wild only have a 720.

    It is worth noting that the 6500 reliably tunnels L2 protocols like CDP, unlike the 3550/3560. That'd make it a nice invisible cross-connect for emulated GNS3 routers and real switches.
  • TehToGTehToG Member Posts: 194
    RTmarc wrote: »
    Most circuits in a residence will be 110v; which is exactly my point. Unless he has a 208/220v circuit in his house he's going to have trouble keeping the switch powered. 208/220v is common in the business setting here.

    That's funny. In the UK we use 220V for home and 110V for business settings. It's pretty common for power supplies to be auto switching though. Infact I just checked and this is. There is an issue perhaps with the fact that this thing has a 16Amp draw. It'll be pricey to run and not ideal, but it'll work.
  • DPGDPG Member Posts: 780 ■■■■■□□□□□
    I have run 6500's fully loaded and they only used 4A@120V. This was with a SUP720-3BXL. For $100 he is probably getting one with a SUP2 or even a SUP1A.
  • silverbulletsilverbullet Registered Users Posts: 5 ■□□□□□□□□□
    Wow! That's a fantastic price for a 6500 series switch.
    I hope it's not just the power supply icon_wink.gif
    It will help for your CCNA studies but multiple lesser
    devices are going to prove more valuable.
    It's worth ensuring you get a supervisor with the
    switch as that is the most expensive bit (the 720 used
    to retail at over $30,000)
    Also, make sure you have an Ethernet blade in the chassis -
    at least one anyway. Also, as a bonus your may get a MSFC.
    This will allow you to practice inter-vlanning.
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