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jamesbrown

What should I do about to managers trying to change my job description? I am 7 months in the job and I'm beginning to think that I am crazy or something.

Concerned Water

What's bad about it? Are they making you take on unrelated stuff?

NetworkVeteran

jamesbrown wrote: »

What should I do about to managers trying to change my job description?

The bottom-line question: given the changes, do you still want the job?

The last time I was in this situation?

Before I was hired I had an honest discussion about which roles I would and would not do. In an emergency situation, when I was asked to do something I did not like, I agreed to do it temporarily. I regularly asked when a replacement was coming. Soon enough, one did, and all was well.

Implicit in this discussion, was that I was valued as an employee, and that I would walk if they did not find a replacement. If no matter what, you need the job, you are in no position to negotiate. Although, you can still tell them whether you like or do not like a change.

Change is not necessarily bad. Consider the positive aspects before complaining.

hiddenknight821

@jamesbrown: No offense but this is not the first time you panicked and came here to complain about the issues at your workplace. I read your previous posts. Maybe it's time for you to start looking somewhere else.

healthyboy

change jobs bro, what are they chnging you to?

gadav478

Geez, rough situation.... or maybe not so much... Are they changing your job description only, or both the description and your duties as well... that's what's I think is more important. If you are doing more, try to relay that change to the right people and negotiate an equivalent salary if possible.

To be honest, this type of thing is a way of life. Sometimes it's nothing you really CAN do but dig in and make it work for you.

tech123yo

jamesbrown wrote: »

What should I do about to managers trying to change my job description? I am 7 months in the job and I'm beginning to think that I am crazy or something.

Try to do some optomistic thinking. When you think of one negative aspect of your job, try to counter it by coming up with three positive aspects. Do some work out to de-stress.

Psoasman

Job descriptions often change with the technology. Are your managers adding more responsibilities or taking some away? You'll get better advice if you can provide more specifics.

jamesbrown

@Concerned Water: There is something bad about it. I am a desktop admin and the desktop specialist is delegating his entire role to the desktop admin. It is unrelated stuff and I don’t see that as a step up in my career at all.

This is the only place I can vent about how I feel about my job. I cannot talk to my boss about it because I for some reason, I just don’t trust him. I and the other desktop admin feel like what we are doing right now doesn’t sound like what we applied for. I and the other admin feel like walking away but I don’t have that much of an emergency fund to survive.

I have been looking for a new job for the past 7 month and it seems like employers are not calling because I’m trying to leave so soon. What should I do?

My role is to image, create packages, deploy packages, WSUS, and reporting but they want me to be a technician and help desk as well.

Concerned Water

Okay. Whatever you do don't just walk away, make sure you have a job first. I understand that this frustrating, but it could be worse. Your still doing IT. Your career hasn't moved down, if anything, I would say it moved up. Taking on more stuff might hone your skills, possibly helping toward getting a better position. Try not to look at the bad, but the good. Keep searching for something that fits you. If you got that job then somewhere out there someone else will hire you also.

jamesbrown

Concerned Water wrote: »

Okay. Whatever you do don't just walk away, make sure you have a job first. I understand that this frustrating, but it could be worse. Your still doing IT. Your career hasn't moved down, if anything, I would say it moved up. Taking on more stuff might hone your skills, possibly helping toward getting a better position. Try not to look at the bad, but the good. Keep searching for something that fits you. If you got that job then somewhere out there someone else will hire you also.

Thanks guys, I'll be applying for 7 jobs tonight. I think I just have to stop thinking that I always have to work for the state governement. I'll be looking at private jobs beginning today

Concerned Water

I'm trying to get away from government as well.

gadav478

Concerned Water wrote: »

I'm trying to get away from government as well.

First I've ever heard that (although I'm pretty new to working for the government ), why do you guys feel like this (besides the job description mess)?

Concerned Water

It's wild!!! Nothing done properly. Downgrading new computers because they don't want to upgrade servers. Lazy employees in charge. Budget cuts throwing deployments dates all over the place. Maybe today, maybe next week, maybe next month, project is now cancelled.

Akaricloud

You have two good options as I see it:

1. Tell him no. Make it clear that this is not the job you want and if he does then you will be seeking employment elsewhere.
2. Suck it up, take on the added work and look like a rockstar. You will be much more difficult to replace and gain more experience.

I don't understand why you feel the need to make a thread about every little thing that happens with your job. These are the kinds of things that have quite clear options and you need to learn how to handle yourself.

jamesbrown

Akaricloud wrote: »

You have two good options as I see it:

1. Tell him no. Make it clear that this is not the job you want and if he does then you will be seeking employment elsewhere.
2. Suck it up, take on the added work and look like a rockstar. You will be much more difficult to replace and gain more experience.

I don't understand why you feel the need to make a thread about every little thing that happens with your job. These are the kinds of things that have quite clear options and you need to learn how to handle yourself.

You don't have to mad if I keep creatin new tread alright, I don't like the roles they are pushing on me. It's a step back in my career. Most people running an state government IT doesn't have a clue on how these technologies work. They just keep trying this, it does work try it.
I suck myself thinking that I can only work for a state department without trying the private sector. Real IT work is in the private sector.

Thanks

Akaricloud

I think you may have missed my point. I'm not mad; The only reason I pointed that out is to help you realize that you can think through these decisions logically yourself instead of relying on us to make them for you.

Everyone here has changes happen at their place of employment and part of being in IT is understanding that it's a very dynamic environment. You can either use these changes to your advantage or make them into a problem for yourself.

jamesbrown

Akaricloud wrote: »

I think you may have missed my point. I'm not mad; The only reason I pointed that out is to help you realize that you can think through these decisions logically yourself instead of relying on us to make them for you.

Everyone here has changes happen at their place of employment and part of being in IT is understanding that it's a very dynamic environment. You can either use these changes to your advantage or make them into a problem for yourself.

I'm really sorry for saying that. It just that I can't really post everything on this forum but I'll do that as soon as I find something else.

I really don't want to be here anymore. Everybody tells you what to do, 7-8 month on the job and still don't know what my roles or responsibilities are. I have asked and my boss told me not to bring that issue up again. What would you do? suck it up or look elsewhere?

Note:
I would like to post both jobs they are requiring I and my colleague to do. But then, I don't know if i'm talking to my co-workers on this forum. There is alot that I just can't post on here. Also, My colleague is looking for a new job as well.

Akaricloud

If you don't want to be there then suck it up and stay or leave, your choice. Nobody here can tell you what is best in your situation but sitting complaining on a forum about it isn't going to solve your problem. Take some initiative and do something.

NetworkVeteran

jamesbrown wrote: »

I would like to post both jobs they are requiring I and my colleague to do.

That wouldn't change your available options or the advice you received here.

+1 What I originally said and what AkariCloud said.

Tackle

How much do you make again? Where can I apply?

jamesbrown

Tackle wrote: »

How much do you make again? Where can I apply?

Maybe we can do u job swap lol

jamesbrown

Guys, I was only b******** alright. I don't need anymore replies.

Thanks

phantasm

jamesbrown wrote: »

Guys, I was only b******** alright. I don't need anymore replies.

Thanks

If you don't like the answers, don't ask the questions. Best of luck.

CodeBlox

gadav478 wrote: »

First I've ever heard that (although I'm pretty new to working for the government ), why do you guys feel like this (besides the job description mess)?

I agree with him. Dumb decisions were made a lot at my previous job working for the government. I'm happier at my current job in the private sector.

jamesbrown

Thanks Dude. i thought i was crazy. I have worked for the state "educational setting" all my working career and this one is really bad.

zenhound

I'm trying to get out of government too. Most of the same reasons I've seen here. Some people are made for it, others much prefer the private sector. It's frustrating when you know a problem can be easily solved but aren't allowed to do it because of a budget issue. This is especially true when it's a <$500 fix. Private sector, I could have just put that on my corporate card without much hassle. Govt is a three month process of begging and pleading.