Five States to watch for growing tech employment
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kriscamaro68 Member Posts: 1,186 ■■■■■■■□□□Iristheangel wrote: »@Sratakhin, Don't get me wrong. LDS people are delightful people and I have no issue with anyone's religious beliefs but people like me aren't afforded the same kind of protections in that state against job discrimination and I saw people turned down for jobs due to religious differences. It's a beautiful state and I still have a lot of dear friends that live there but I couldn't see myself living there long term.
I spent the first 19 years of my life in southern california and now live in Orem Utah. There is no way I would move back to cali. That place is a crap hole other than the weather. Also the state is bankrupt as can be. I am sure it's just a matter of time before the rest of the cities in the state file for bankruptcy. As for job discrimination for people who aren't LDS well that is not true for all jobs I have dealt with. I am sure you could go anywhere in the country and find some employers that discriminate for one reason or another. This is not something just related to Utah. Either way though as long as people keep getting scared away because LDS people live here the more jobs there are for me to choose from so I guess I am all for it. -
Iristheangel Mod Posts: 4,133 Modkriscamaro68 wrote: »I spent the first 19 years of my life in southern california and now live in Orem Utah. There is no way I would move back to cali. That place is a crap hole other than the weather. Also the state is bankrupt as can be. I am sure it's just a matter of time before the rest of the cities in the state file for bankruptcy. As for job discrimination for people who aren't LDS well that is not true for all jobs I have dealt with. I am sure you could go anywhere in the country and find some employers that discriminate for one reason or another. This is not something just related to Utah. Either way though as long as people keep getting scared away because LDS people live here the more jobs there are for me to choose from so I guess I am all for it.
I'm glad Utah worked out for you. Different people and different experiences. I spent two years there. I couldn't stand the looks I'd get from people when I would hold my SO's hand or when my Asian sisters came to visit. I couldn't handle being blocked for promotions or the first to be laid off when it got out that I dated girls. It just wasn't the place for me no matter how much I tried to make things work out. I'm sorry that California didn't work out for you either. I haven't had an issue with being successful here or staying employed but to each their own. Good luck. -
kriscamaro68 Member Posts: 1,186 ■■■■■■■□□□Iristheangel wrote: »I'm glad Utah worked out for you. Different people and different experiences. I spent two years there. I couldn't stand the looks I'd get from people when I would hold my SO's hand or when my Asian sisters came to visit. I couldn't handle being blocked for promotions or the first to be laid off when it got out that I dated girls. It just wasn't the place for me no matter how much I tried to make things work out. I'm sorry that California didn't work out for you either. I haven't had an issue with being successful here or staying employed but to each their own. Good luck.
I am sorry it didn't work out for you here either. Like I said I don't think it's like that in the places where I have worked as we have people where I currently work in Provo that are part of the LGBT community. I think there will be employers in all states that do this, maybe not in the same way but its still done. Either way I am glad things are working for you in Cali and hope this new job works out great for you. -
Devilry Member Posts: 668Forsaken_GA wrote: »I was thinking more along the lines of Chattanooga hehe
I have considered Chattanooga, especially with Amazon there now. I don't know where you are in GA but it would only be a 90 minute commute for a trial run for me... been considering it. -
Raidersfan81 Member Posts: 124Seattle #1 and staying on top. It cant be dethroned! Seattle is the 90s Chicago Bulls of tech!
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Psoasman Member Posts: 2,687 ■■■■■■■■■□Agreed. There are A LOT of very nice positions available, especially in healthcare. Once I'm done with my B.S in IT, I'm going to have a lot more options available.
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Cisc0kidd Member Posts: 250I have considered Chattanooga, especially with Amazon there now. I don't know where you are in GA but it would only be a 90 minute commute for a trial run for me... been considering it.
Definitely some beautiful areas near by. Downside is the traffic, housing costs, and more rain than Portland. -
techdudehere Member Posts: 164I've driven past Chattanooga, but I didn't stop in the town. The countryside is definitely amazing. Sadly, I doubt I'll ever get out of a big city but I often imagine moving to a small town, 200k would be a nice size town I think,and enjoying a slower pace of life, easier to get around, and building a balcony overlooking a large pond or even buying a lake house. I've read you can get houses for 200k in some circumstances so by selling off your existing home moving to such a place and using the balance as extra savings, it may even make financial sense to do so.
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erpadmin Member Posts: 4,165 ■■■■■■■■■■I have been casually looking at Texas and Florida. Both of those states offer two things: no state tax and the ease of one to practice his/her 2nd Amendment rights...
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Cisc0kidd Member Posts: 250I have been casually looking at Texas and Florida. Both of those states offer two things: no state tax and the ease of one to practice his/her 2nd Amendment rights...
Not to mention hurricanes! -
erpadmin Member Posts: 4,165 ■■■■■■■■■■Hurricanes don't exactly bother me...NJ/NY has seen a fair share of them...plus, advance warning systems of them are pretty good. Only people who have suffered from them are those who ignore the warnings.
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Cisc0kidd Member Posts: 250Hurricanes don't exactly bother me...NJ/NY has seen a fair share of them...plus, advance warning systems of them are pretty good. Only people who have suffered from them are those who ignore the warnings.
Or who own property of any kind. -
Whiteout Member Posts: 248Everyone stay away from Seattle please. The weather is horrible, its expensive, and the lack of tech jobs is absurd. Thank you.Never stop learning.
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ptilsen Member Posts: 2,835 ■■■■■■■■■■Whiteout, I thought there was a big software company in Redmond, but its name is escaping me.
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flt0nujr Member Posts: 65 ■■■□□□□□□□I'm thinking more along the lines of the following:
Raleigh, North Carolina TRP (Triangle Park)
Austin and Dallas Texas
Orlando, Florida (Originally from Miami)
Northern AtlantaB.S Information Technology Telecommunications
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erpadmin Member Posts: 4,165 ■■■■■■■■■■Or who own property of any kind.
It's called "insurance“ ...
Hurricane insurance is mandatory in FL. In TX I am not sure but it would depend in if I lived where Ike visited. -
erpadmin Member Posts: 4,165 ■■■■■■■■■■@ptilsen, I wrote a paper about that company last semester [it was more about how they are as a culture and how they are as an organization.] If you really want insight about MS and want to work for them, PM me your email addy and I will not mind sharing it with you. One of the hardest papers I had to write as I did not know any one who was a Blue Badge...now I know two...lol. Or you can talk to Everyone...
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SteveLord Member Posts: 1,717I can never understand how weather limits so many people. :P With the exception of places like Alaska, I could go anywhere if the opportunity made sense.WGU B.S.IT - 9/1/2015 >>> ???
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Hypntick Member Posts: 1,451 ■■■■■■□□□□I'm thinking more along the lines of the following:
Raleigh, North Carolina TRP (Triangle Park)
Austin and Dallas Texas
Orlando, Florida (Originally from Miami)
Northern Atlanta
I'm considering Raleigh as well, I just enjoy NC overall actually. I don't think i'd move to Orlando, but I spent a good portion of my life growing up there, was never a fan of it.WGU BS:IT Completed June 30th 2012.
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biggene Member Posts: 153 ■■■■□□□□□□We are pretty much considering the same thing. Especially when I get done with school. We have talked about out west, Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico, because I lived in El Paso and Ruidosa for a couple of years, but I would pretty much consider Raleigh (TRP), Chattanooga, Atlanta, (North), and the Florida panhandle. My younger brother wants my family to come back to the Dallas/Fort Worth area, but I just don't know if I could stand all of the old memories of my Dad.
LOL, who am I kidding. I would be willing to go anywhere, as long as the opportunity was right for me and my family. -
Cisc0kidd Member Posts: 250It's called "insurance“ ...
Hurricane insurance is mandatory in FL. In TX I am not sure but it would depend in if I lived where Ike visited.
I am not familiar with hurricane insurance but I am guessing it costs money, has a deductible, and probably doesn't cover everything. Not to mention lost work/wages and other inefficiencies. Don't get me wrong, these may be the best places for you. -
Raidersfan81 Member Posts: 124Weather is beautiful everyday in Seattle. 75 in the Summer. Cloudy and rain. I feel like Tom Hanks every time I step outside, Just puts a smile on my face. I came from Central Valley California where all you know is sweat and sweat more and you cant find no jobs.
Craigslist has at least 50-100 Tech jobs everyday between Software/Networking positions. That's just craigslist. -
Cisc0kidd Member Posts: 250Everyone stay away from Seattle please. The weather is horrible, its expensive, and the lack of tech jobs is absurd. Thank you.
I hear the whole NW is a technology desert! -
erpadmin Member Posts: 4,165 ■■■■■■■■■■I am not familiar with hurricane insurance but I am guessing it costs money, has a deductible, and probably doesn't cover everything. Not to mention lost work/wages and other inefficiencies. Don't get me wrong, these may be the best places for you.
I don't take your concerns lightly...my whole thing is I have been stuck in the metro-NYC for almost 35 years (since birth...) I'd like to enjoy some nice weather and I would not go to any of those areas without a proper salary. Heck, if I find a gig that pays slightly more than what I'm making now in either of those states, I'll consider it a raise and jump in a heartbeat.
OR has one thing going for it though...like NJ, I don't have to get out and fill my own tank up. (Only two states in the Union that are like that...) -
About7Narwhal Member Posts: 761@Forsaken_GA Might I suggest not moving to west TN. Just personal opinion...
Knoxville doesn't have anything other than programming. All of the jobs I see are just out of reach in Nashville or Memphis. A shame really, Oak Ridge has been letting me down recently. -
tbhouston Member Posts: 32 ■■□□□□□□□□Various jobs in Houston, Dallas looks pretty strong too..
Houston has some of the lowest cost of living in the country, no state tax, plenty of stuff to do
Most of our work is contract to hire that never seems to hire.. but i think thats normal in the industry lol
You could use indeed,monster,dice and do a city search for different positions -
filkenjitsu Member Posts: 564 ■■■■□□□□□□Check out the Indeed.com Job Trends page, very interesting info:
Where are the Jobs? | Indeed.com
[h=1]Job Postings Per Capita[/h]For the 50 most populous metropolitan areas in the United States.
The bigger the dot, the more job postings per capita.
Zoom In: click and drag your cursor to create a box around the region you want to zoom into.
Zoom Out: click on a blank area of the map.
Search Jobs: click the metropolitan area you want to search.
[SIZE=-2]DIY Maps[/SIZE][h=2]Rankings Second Quarter 2012[/h]50 most populous metro areas ranked by job postings per capita.
[TH="class: rank"]Rank [SIZE=-4](Last Qtr Rank)[/SIZE][/TH]
[TH="class: metro"]Metropolitian Area[/TH]
[TH="class: jpc, align: center"]Job Postings Per 1000 People[/TH]
1[SIZE=-4] (1)[/SIZE]
San Jose, CA
161
2[SIZE=-4] (2)[/SIZE]
Washington, DC
118
3[SIZE=-4] (3)[/SIZE]
Raleigh, NC
112
4[SIZE=-4] (4)[/SIZE]
Hartford, CT
102
5[SIZE=-4] (6)[/SIZE]
Boston, MA
91
6[SIZE=-4] (5)[/SIZE]
Baltimore, MD
90
7[SIZE=-4] (10)[/SIZE]
Denver, CO
83
8[SIZE=-4] (9)[/SIZE]
Seattle, WA
81
9[SIZE=-4] (15)[/SIZE]
Austin, TX
79
10[SIZE=-4] ([/SIZE]
San Francisco, CA
77
11[SIZE=-4] (13)[/SIZE]
Charlotte, NC
73
12[SIZE=-4] (12)[/SIZE]
Cleveland, OH
72
13[SIZE=-4] (11)[/SIZE]
St. Paul, MN
71
14[SIZE=-4] (16)[/SIZE]
Columbus, OH
71
15[SIZE=-4] (14)[/SIZE]
Richmond, VA
70
16[SIZE=-4] (17)[/SIZE]
Salt Lake City, UT
69
17[SIZE=-4] (7)[/SIZE]
Milwaukee, WI
66
18[SIZE=-4] (20)[/SIZE]
Indianapolis, IN
65
19[SIZE=-4] (1[/SIZE]
Atlanta, GA
62
20[SIZE=-4] (21)[/SIZE]
Phoenix, AZ
62
21[SIZE=-4] (22)[/SIZE]
Kansas City, MO
62
22[SIZE=-4] (25)[/SIZE]
Nashville, TN
61
23[SIZE=-4] (34)[/SIZE]
Houston, TX
60
24[SIZE=-4] (19)[/SIZE]
Orlando, FL
60
25[SIZE=-4] (2[/SIZE]
Louisville, KY
60
26[SIZE=-4] (33)[/SIZE]
Oklahoma City, OK
60
27[SIZE=-4] (30)[/SIZE]
Dallas, TX
59
28[SIZE=-4] (26)[/SIZE]
Jacksonville, FL
59
29[SIZE=-4] (31)[/SIZE]
Pittsburgh, PA
58
30[SIZE=-4] (24)[/SIZE]
Tampa, FL
57
31[SIZE=-4] (32)[/SIZE]
Portland, OR
57
32[SIZE=-4] (35)[/SIZE]
San Diego, CA
55
33[SIZE=-4] (27)[/SIZE]
Virginia Beach, VA
54
34[SIZE=-4] (37)[/SIZE]
Philadelphia, PA
53
35[SIZE=-4] (3[/SIZE]
Memphis, TN
53
36[SIZE=-4] (29)[/SIZE]
Birmingham, AL
53
37[SIZE=-4] (43)[/SIZE]
San Antonio, TX
51
38[SIZE=-4] (40)[/SIZE]
Cincinnati, OH
51
39[SIZE=-4] (46)[/SIZE]
Buffalo, NY
51
40[SIZE=-4] (39)[/SIZE]
Chicago, IL
50
41[SIZE=-4] (41)[/SIZE]
Las Vegas, NV
50
42[SIZE=-4] (44)[/SIZE]
St. Louis, MO
49
43[SIZE=-4] (45)[/SIZE]
Providence, RI
48
44[SIZE=-4] (36)[/SIZE]
Detroit, MI
47
45[SIZE=-4] (42)[/SIZE]
Sacramento, CA
47
46[SIZE=-4] (47)[/SIZE]
New York, NY
42
47[SIZE=-4] (23)[/SIZE]
New Orleans, LA
39
48[SIZE=-4] (4[/SIZE]
Los Angeles, CA
31
49[SIZE=-4] (49)[/SIZE]
Miami, FL
28
50[SIZE=-4] (50)[/SIZE]
Riverside, CA
22
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Raidersfan81 Member Posts: 124Take, for example, Seattle. Out of the 51 largest metro areas in the U.S., the Valley’s longtime tech rival has emerged as the No. 1 region for high-tech growth, based on long- and short-term job numbers. Built on a base of such tech powerhouses as Microsoft, Amazon and Boeing, Seattle has enjoyed the steadiest and most sustained tech growth over the past decade. It is followed by Baltimore (No. 2), Columbus, Ohio (No. 3), Raleigh, N.C. (No. 4) and Salt Lake City, Utah (No. 5).
Thank you based Seattle! I thought Portland was pretty good which it is. Got Nike, Intel and tons of other companies. But Seattle!!!!! Being #1 and the SuperSonics coming back!!! MY Goodnesssssssssssss. -
sratakhin Member Posts: 818I did some research. Simply searched for job postings requiring CCIE, CCNA or MCSE and then divided by the area's population.
The results are predictable.
1. DC
2. Baltimore
3. San Jose
4. Denver
5. Raleigh
6. Austin
7. Dallas
8. Atlanta
9. Seattle
10. Kansas City
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13. San Francisco
17. Minneapolis
22. Chicago
32. New York
43. Los Angeles -
Whiteout Member Posts: 248Weather is beautiful everyday in Seattle. 75 in the Summer. Cloudy and rain. I feel like Tom Hanks every time I step outside, Just puts a smile on my face. I came from Central Valley California where all you know is sweat and sweat more and you cant find no jobs.
Craigslist has at least 50-100 Tech jobs everyday between Software/Networking positions. That's just craigslist.
Errrrgggg! Trying to keep the Californians from coming up here!
"I hear the whole NW is a technology desert! " - What that guy said.Never stop learning.