US Army Signal Officer going into the Civilian IT world.

acetechacetech Member Posts: 8 ■□□□□□□□□□
I am a Signal Officer getting ready to jump out into the civilian world of IT. A Signal officer in the army manages IT services and manages networks within the army. Looking for any advice going into the civilian world of IT. Estimated 1 yr left in the Army.icon_cheers.gif
Certs that I currently have are Network + and Security +....working on CEH and CCNA for the rest of 2012 and for 2013 looking at CISSP.

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  • phoeneousphoeneous Member Posts: 2,333 ■■■■■■■□□□
    What kind of experience do you have?
  • vanquish23vanquish23 Member Posts: 224
    If you have a TS clearance I can hook you up.
    He who SYNs is of the devil, for the devil has SYN'ed and ACK'ed from the beginning. For this purpose, that the ACK might destroy the works of the devil.
  • sieffsieff Member Posts: 276
    i work with a couple of guys that were officers. one guy is a Avaya PBX guy and another guy is a jr. data center engineer. not sure if being an officer translates to management in civilian IT though. i will tell you that a lot of my current managers have CCIE, CISSP and a few have MBA's in addition to the high level tech certs.
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  • acetechacetech Member Posts: 8 ■□□□□□□□□□
    My Experience consist of:
    Manager and Supervisor of teams that install, employ, maintain, troubleshoot and assist users with tactical battlefield signal support systems, terminal devices, tactical satellite communications equipment and automated telecommunications computer systems, to include local area networks, wide area networks and routers.
    Supervises automations operations in Battalion Level Brigade Combat Team. Supports the deployment, installation, operation, and unit level maintenance of multi user information processing systems.
    Provide information technology assistance and possesses advanced user and support skills with all solid understanding of TCP/IP networking and the OSI model.
    Primarily responsible for the development and management of active directory and user accounts on tactical and strategic SIPR and NIPR exchange which services over 1,000 users. Enforces Army network security and information assurance policies within Fort Bliss network.
  • acetechacetech Member Posts: 8 ■□□□□□□□□□
    I have a secret clearance
  • sieffsieff Member Posts: 276
    may be a good idea to job hunt in the VA/DC/MD area. also federal IT specific companies may be a good thing. when i was leaving the army there were several job hunting resources i used to find work. a veteran with certs in the hottest fields should help you out greatly. good luck on your search. 1 year goes by so fast. you're on the last stretch.
    "The heights by great men reached and kept were not attained by sudden flight, but they, while their companions slept were toiling upward in the night." from the poem: The Ladder of St. Augustine, Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
  • ValsacarValsacar Member Posts: 336
    You looking to go pure civilian, GS, or contractor (or doesn't matter)? Stay local, willing to travel, overseas?
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    Required: NOTHING!!!!!
    Current Course: NONE

    Completed: COV2, LKT2, LOT2, FNV2, VUT2, JFT2, TFT2, JIT2, FYT2, FMV2, FXT2, FYV2, LQT2
    Started 01 May 2012, Degree awarded 29 Oct 2013
  • acetechacetech Member Posts: 8 ■□□□□□□□□□
    Valsacar wrote: »
    You looking to go pure civilian, GS, or contractor (or doesn't matter)? Stay local, willing to travel, overseas?


    Doesn't Matter at the moment...I wanna look at all of my options.
  • jsnchrry33jsnchrry33 Member Posts: 12 ■□□□□□□□□□
    When I left the Air Force I hit up a lot of cleared job fairs so that is definitely a good place to start looking.
  • networker050184networker050184 Mod Posts: 11,962 Mod
    As an officer you really should be looking to get into the managerial side of things. You can leverage your leadership skills to get a nice job on the outside. Most officers, in my experience, are distanced from the actual nitty gritty of the technical stuff so you might have difficulties trying to move into something purely technical. You'd probably be looking at something fairly entry level which I assume at this point in your career is not something you would be interested in.
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  • nosoup4unosoup4u Member Posts: 365
    Man I would love to have a secret clearance and finally be able to work over at FT. Lewis/Mcchord

    Are there any researcher laboratories and or bases you could contract for in new mexico?
  • vanquish23vanquish23 Member Posts: 224
    acetech wrote: »
    My Experience consist of:
    Manager and Supervisor of teams that install, employ, maintain, troubleshoot and assist users with tactical battlefield signal support systems, terminal devices, tactical satellite communications equipment and automated telecommunications computer systems, to include local area networks, wide area networks and routers.
    Supervises automations operations in Battalion Level Brigade Combat Team. Supports the deployment, installation, operation, and unit level maintenance of multi user information processing systems.
    Provide information technology assistance and possesses advanced user and support skills with all solid understanding of TCP/IP networking and the OSI model.
    Primarily responsible for the development and management of active directory and user accounts on tactical and strategic SIPR and NIPR exchange which services over 1,000 users. Enforces Army network security and information assurance policies within Fort Bliss network.

    Since you are a year out, PM me a resume later on done the road if you would like. For now you can check out what General Dynamics IT has to offer at General Dynamics Information Technology - Careers and search by clearance level and location. Allthought I wont be there in a few weeks as I am moving on due to loss of contract.
    He who SYNs is of the devil, for the devil has SYN'ed and ACK'ed from the beginning. For this purpose, that the ACK might destroy the works of the devil.
  • theanimaltheanimal Member Posts: 77 ■■□□□□□□□□
    acetech, what kind of degree do you have?
  • ValsacarValsacar Member Posts: 336
    vanquish23 wrote: »
    Since you are a year out, PM me a resume later on done the road if you would like. For now you can check out what General Dynamics IT has to offer at General Dynamics Information Technology - Careers and search by clearance level and location. Allthought I wont be there in a few weeks as I am moving on due to loss of contract.

    Great choice, being the company I'm with as well.

    I would look at GS and contractor first, since if you decide to go that route you won't have long with that clearance active (as I'm sure you know, it goes inactive if you stop using it, not just when the next re-eval is due). For IT/signal types there's a few major players to look at for jobs. GDIT, NG, BAE (some, but they aren't IT at heart), BAH, etc.

    Besides their direct websites, clearancejobs.com also has a lot. Keep in mind that networking (the kind with people) is the main way in, after I was offered my job they put up the announcement for me to "apply" for it. I knew someone in the company, he passed my resume on to a hiring manager that was looking for someone with my skills, and that's how it goes. Posted jobs are generally those that they couldn't find anyone in house to refer people into the position.

    If you're interested in coming over to Korea (no federal tax on most/all of salary, plus housing and other perks) you can PM me in about 6 months and I'll let you know what positions are open. Contractors over here are a bit different, we all know each other and many guys pop around companies, so the whole company loyalty thing is pretty minimal. I generally know what openings any company over here is looking to fill, and will point people over there if they fit the bill.
    WGU MS:ISA Progress:
    Required: NOTHING!!!!!
    Current Course: NONE

    Completed: COV2, LKT2, LOT2, FNV2, VUT2, JFT2, TFT2, JIT2, FYT2, FMV2, FXT2, FYV2, LQT2
    Started 01 May 2012, Degree awarded 29 Oct 2013
  • VAHokie56VAHokie56 Member Posts: 783
    I have not worked for GDIT but one of the guys here used to be with them before he went perm, says they are awesome
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  • acetechacetech Member Posts: 8 ■□□□□□□□□□
    theanimal wrote: »
    acetech, what kind of degree do you have?

    I got my degree in Homeland Security and Emergency Management and currently working on Masters in Cyber security
  • acetechacetech Member Posts: 8 ■□□□□□□□□□
    vanquish23 wrote: »
    Since you are a year out, PM me a resume later on done the road if you would like. For now you can check out what General Dynamics IT has to offer at General Dynamics Information Technology - Careers and search by clearance level and location. Allthought I wont be there in a few weeks as I am moving on due to loss of contract.

    I can send you my résumé as soon as I get home.
  • theanimaltheanimal Member Posts: 77 ■■□□□□□□□□
    acetech wrote: »
    I got my degree in Homeland Security and Emergency Management and currently working on Masters in Cyber security

    Not sure where you're home is outside of the military but in the MD/VA area you'd have no problem finding a decent gov job, in my opinion.
  • LenniusceLenniusce Member Posts: 114 ■■■■□□□□□□
    Google "cleared connections" as well as "clearance jobs"

    Go to the first result of each..
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  • vanquish23vanquish23 Member Posts: 224
    acetech wrote: »
    I can send you my résumé as soon as I get home.

    Great. Tried to PM you but you have the box unchecked to not allow PM's from users.
    He who SYNs is of the devil, for the devil has SYN'ed and ACK'ed from the beginning. For this purpose, that the ACK might destroy the works of the devil.
  • acetechacetech Member Posts: 8 ■□□□□□□□□□
    vanquish23 wrote: »
    Great. Tried to PM you but you have the box unchecked to not allow PM's from users.

    I am going to turn that on when I get home, mean while you can email me at wigginstb@gmail.com
  • ValsacarValsacar Member Posts: 336
    VAHokie56 wrote: »
    I have not worked for GDIT but one of the guys here used to be with them before he went perm, says they are awesome

    I've been with them 2 years and they've been great so far, paid for the training and testing for my CISSP (went to India for the bootcamp, my choice;their dime), paying for my Masters (not that WGU is expensive), a week in Germany (might be going back next month), lots of nice little perks like that.
    WGU MS:ISA Progress:
    Required: NOTHING!!!!!
    Current Course: NONE

    Completed: COV2, LKT2, LOT2, FNV2, VUT2, JFT2, TFT2, JIT2, FYT2, FMV2, FXT2, FYV2, LQT2
    Started 01 May 2012, Degree awarded 29 Oct 2013
  • vanquish23vanquish23 Member Posts: 224
    Valsacar wrote: »
    I've been with them 2 years and they've been great so far, paid for the training and testing for my CISSP (went to India for the bootcamp, my choice;their dime), paying for my Masters (not that WGU is expensive), a week in Germany (might be going back next month), lots of nice little perks like that.

    I can back him up. I also have been working with GDIT for two years. As long as the certs relate to your job (duh) then they will pay for them. You also get a second try if you don't make the passing score the first time. There are a lot of perks with GDIT. Then again, the top 10 contractors offer the same benefits.
    He who SYNs is of the devil, for the devil has SYN'ed and ACK'ed from the beginning. For this purpose, that the ACK might destroy the works of the devil.
  • spiderjerichospiderjericho Registered Users, Member Posts: 896 ■■■■■□□□□□
    General Dynamics Information Technology : Job Details

    Not to thread derail but I wish they listed how much the salaries are. I'm interested in this job.

    And chiming in as an enlisted service member but in my experience with the exception of warrant officers, officers are more involved in managerial decisions very seldom technical.

    The lieutenant colonel I work for now demonstrates this in the meetings I've sat in. Probably a good decision maker not technically savvy enough to be a network engineer, system administrator, etc.

    When I was at a NOC, the officers were either managers or they were watch officers, simply change management approval or managing network outtage crisis.
  • vanquish23vanquish23 Member Posts: 224
    General Dynamics Information Technology : Job Details

    Not to thread derail but I wish they listed how much the salaries are. I'm interested in this job.

    And chiming in as an enlisted service member but in my experience with the exception of warrant officers, officers are more involved in managerial decisions very seldom technical.

    The lieutenant colonel I work for now demonstrates this in the meetings I've sat in. Probably a good decision maker not technically savvy enough to be a network engineer, system administrator, etc.

    When I was at a NOC, the officers were either managers or they were watch officers, simply change management approval or managing network outtage crisis.

    Whats the job req, because the link you posted is bad.
    He who SYNs is of the devil, for the devil has SYN'ed and ACK'ed from the beginning. For this purpose, that the ACK might destroy the works of the devil.
  • ValsacarValsacar Member Posts: 336
    vanquish23 wrote: »
    I can back him up. I also have been working with GDIT for two years. As long as the certs relate to your job (duh) then they will pay for them. You also get a second try if you don't make the passing score the first time. There are a lot of perks with GDIT. Then again, the top 10 contractors offer the same benefits.

    Even if they don't they'll pay, you just incur a 1 year "obligation" for it (assuming there is money in the training fund, which there always is). Required by job = paid for no obligation, required by any job withing GDIT but not yours = paid for with one year obligation.

    Most have pretty similar packages, I know BAE does not do the training/cert (even paying maintenance fees) but they give a bonus (up to 1k/cert) when you obtain certs. Kind of sucks, but a co-worker (sub) used their college assistance to do a BS at WGU and kept getting bonuses for the certs obtained in the process!
    WGU MS:ISA Progress:
    Required: NOTHING!!!!!
    Current Course: NONE

    Completed: COV2, LKT2, LOT2, FNV2, VUT2, JFT2, TFT2, JIT2, FYT2, FMV2, FXT2, FYV2, LQT2
    Started 01 May 2012, Degree awarded 29 Oct 2013
  • acetechacetech Member Posts: 8 ■□□□□□□□□□
    Thanks for all of the information everyone..its been very helpful!!
  • spiderjerichospiderjericho Registered Users, Member Posts: 896 ■■■■■□□□□□
    vanquish23 wrote: »
    Whats the job req, because the link you posted is bad.

    Bachelor's Degree
    CCNA
    ITIL Foundation
    8570 Cert

    Desired
    CCNP
    Master's Degree
    ITIL Intermediate
    10-15 years of experience
    TS/SCI

    I fail to meet the Master's Degree and am two tests short of the ITIL Intermediate.

    Also, what are the top 10 DoD contractors (ex GD, Raytheon, AT&T, Verizon, L3, etc).

    And I looked at the District of Columbia and saw two positions for Senior Network Engineers with requirements for CCIE. I can only imagine the $$$ that contract nets.
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