which 2600 ?

thisisalex02

Which model of the 2600 series should one get while studying for ccna?

lordy

2611 is a classic but I honestly wouldn't by a 26xx for CCNA.

2501 or 2503 pretty much do the same (10M ethernet, serial interfaces) and are available at much lower prices.

Just my 0.02 EUR

thisisalex02

if i get two 2503's is there much difference if i get one with ios 12.2 and one that has 12.3. Tell me what you think about this one.

System Bootstrap, Version 11.0(10c), SOFTWARE
Copyright (c) 1986-1996 by cisco Systems
2500 processor with 14336 Kbytes of main memory

%SYS-4-CONFIG_NEWER: Configurations from version 12.2 may not be correctly understood.
F3: 15351364+1154404+1180912 at 0x3000060

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Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) 2500 Software (C2500-JK8OS-L), Version 12.2(1d), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
Copyright (c) 1986-2002 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Sun 03-Feb-02 22:01 by srani
Image text-base: 0x0307EEE0, data-base: 0x00001000


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cisco 2500 (68030) processor (revision N) with 14336K/2048K bytes of memory.
Processor board ID 05726327, with hardware revision 00000001
Bridging software.
X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
SuperLAT software (copyright 1990 by Meridian Technology Corp).
TN3270 Emulation software.
Basic Rate ISDN software, Version 1.1.
1 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
2 Serial network interface(s)
1 ISDN Basic Rate interface(s)
32K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read ONLY)

Warning: No ISDN switch-type defined. Cannot change a static TEI.

ip kerberos source-interface any
^
% Invalid input detected at '^' marker.



Press RETURN to get started!


00:00:14: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Ethernet0, changed state to up
00:00:15: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Serial0, changed state to down
00:00:15: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Serial1, changed state to down
00:01:54: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Ethernet0, changed state to down
00:01:58: %LINK-5-CHANGED: Interface BRI0, changed state to administratively down
00:01:59: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface BRI0, changed state to down
00:01:59: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from memory by console
00:01:59: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Serial0, changed state to down
00:02:47: %SYS-5-RESTART: System restarted --
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) 2500 Software (C2500-JK8OS-L), Version 12.2(1d), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
Copyright (c) 1986-2002 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Sun 03-Feb-02 22:01 by srani
00:02:52: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Serial1, changed state to down
C2503A>sh ver
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) 2500 Software (C2500-JK8OS-L), Version 12.2(1d), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
Copyright (c) 1986-2002 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Sun 03-Feb-02 22:01 by srani
Image text-base: 0x0307EEE0, data-base: 0x00001000

ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 11.0(10c), SOFTWARE
BOOTFLASH: 3000 Bootstrap Software (IGS-BOOT-R), Version 11.0(10c), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)

C2503A uptime is 2 minutes
System returned to ROM by power-on
System image file is "flash:c2500-jk8os-l.122-1d.bin"

cisco 2500 (68030) processor (revision N) with 14336K/2048K bytes of memory.
Processor board ID 05726327, with hardware revision 00000001
Bridging software.
X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
SuperLAT software (copyright 1990 by Meridian Technology Corp).
TN3270 Emulation software.
Basic Rate ISDN software, Version 1.1.
1 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
2 Serial network interface(s)
1 ISDN Basic Rate interface(s)
32K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read ONLY)

Configuration register is 0x2102

C2503A>

johnnynodough

Those will work just fine for the CCNA. May want to get a simulator as well so you can practice ISDN and frame relay conigurations.

thisisalex02

i have boson netsim 5.3 and i also have a 3640 as well as a 1924 switch (i know i know). what else may i need

johnnynodough

maybe a better switch, (dont even bother playing with the 1924) but if you have the Netsim you will be able to do all your switching labs with that, thats what I have to do. Cant fork out the cash for a 2950 yet.

thisisalex02

johnny let me tell you all i have and then u can let me know what you think. i have a 3640.... a 1924 switch mini 10/100 hub and im gonna get a couple of 2503 routers. I have boson netsim and i also have boson practice test as well as learnkeys ccna series. My books include wendell odoms books (intro, icnd). I also have the ccna certification kit by tod lamalle (sybex fifth edition and virtual labs) as well as fast pass. I also have Richards deal ccna book. Should this be sufficient..or what am i missing.. thanks

johnnynodough

Id said you wont have a problem, you wont get much practical use out of the 1924 switch, and definetly not the hub. Dont forget Cisco.com to fill in any gaps or any elaboration you may need, along with this site of course : )

thisisalex02

how was the intro exam ?

johnnynodough

piece of cake. I just read the Cisco Press book (wendell odom), did some basic labs on my routers, and used this site. Didnt have the Netsimulator yet and I did fine. The biggest thing with the Intro is SUBNETTING. That will make or break you.

thisisalex02

so i should pass if i know odoms intro book and i use netsim?

johnnynodough

Id gander to say yes, as long as you can wip out the subnetting questions fast and accurately.

thisisalex02

on netsim i should just go to lab navigator and make sure i can do all of them?

johnnynodough

I would just concern myself with doing stanalone labs that you come accross in the Intro book. If you are going for the 640-801 then by all means, shoot for all the labs, but if you are just going for the 640-821 for know you only really need to be concerened with simple router configuration, establishing basic routing protocols (maybe), setting up a serial link, navigating IOS modes, setting vty passwords, all that good stuff. The ICND is where you will get down to the nitty gritty of IOS.

thisisalex02

and what do you think about getting a couple of 2503's instead of some 2600's ?

lordy

Getting multiple 2503 is definitely a good idea. These can be used in a CCNP lab also . I just bought two of them on german eBay for around $130.

If you are looking for 250x make sure you get them with 16 MB RAM (the max) so you can run all IOS versions. 16 MB flash would be nice but if you don't have that you can still boot from a TFTP server.

Don't forget that you need transceivers to convert the AUI port to standard RJ45 ethernet.

thisisalex02

http://cgi.ebay.com/Cisco-2503-Router-Dual-Serial-ISDN-BR1-CCNA-CCNP-CCIE_W0QQitemZ5801050648QQcategoryZ67310QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


This is what im planning on getting.. please post comments

lordy

16 MB RAM is fine.
The IOS version looks good too.

It doesn't seem to include a transceiver though and the amount of flash isn't stated.

$40 + S&H would be an acceptable deal, not a top one though, in my opinion.

Hulkamaniac

just get the 2611. The 2611 comes with 2 ethernet ports and youre gonna need that really bad. Whereas the 2610 only comes with 1 ethernet port. You can always go to cisco and get some expansion cards for more ports, but to save money overall, go with the 2611 router. Also, the 2611 comes with a higher IOS version than the 2500's so you can do more stuff with them.

Legacy User

I'm building a lab piece by piece, since I'm still in college learning for my other interest Sociology (but my heart has been with PC's from since I was 5 years old...)

I'm looking at a 2503 over here. Does this look good? I think it does.

IOS (tm) 2500 Software (C2500-IS-L), Version 12.3(12), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc3)
Compiled Tue 30-Nov-04 02:33 by kellythw
Image text-base: 0x03094EA4, data-base: 0x00001000

ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 5.2(8a), RELEASE SOFTWARE
BOOTLDR: 3000 Bootstrap Software (IGS-RXBOOT), Version 10.2(8a), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)

System returned to ROM by reload
System image file is "flash:c2500-is-l.123-12.bin"

Cisco 2500 (68030) processor (revision D) with 16384K/2048K bytes of memory.
Bridging software.
X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
Basic Rate ISDN software, Version 1.1.
1 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
2 Serial network interface(s)
1 ISDN Basic Rate interface(s)
32K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
16384K bytes of processor board System flash

Anyone think this is good/not good? It's rated on Ebay for 115 euro's.

QUIX0TIC

I think this system is good to go. My only issue would be the system BootRom. You may need to upgrade it but for a 25xx router... I personally dont think it would be worth upgrading. But then, I dont know the happenstance if you were not to upgrade.

IMHO... upgrading of a bootrom is only worth it if it is in a prod environment and not in a testing environment.

johnnynodough

As long as the bootrom level supports 16/16 of mem (which that does) you will be good to go.

Get as much use out of it as you can before buying in higher level routers, after I got my 1710 and 2610's, I did all my debugging and telnetting from them because they are sooooooo much faster, so the 2501's console ports have been collecting dust

Legacy User

Thanks for the fast reply. I think that I will buy the Cisco 2503 and am already looking forward to see how it looks like when it arrives.

However,
It looks like there is a complete lab on sale as well. Printing all details below, but here is which devices you get:
2 X CISCO 2501
1 X CISCO 2503
1 X CISCO 2523 (frame relay switch)
1 X CISCO 2514
4 X CABLE DCE-DTE DB-60
5 X TRANSCEIVER
2 X CONSOLE CABLE
5 X AC POWER CABLE

The complete lab somes at a whopping 675 Euro's. Ouch. Here are the details provided. I'm sorry for the long post, but I want to get expert advice on a sale this expensive. URL:
http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/Cisco-FULL-LAB-ROUTING-2500-series-16F-16D-last-IOS_W0QQitemZ5809457643QQcategoryZ39511QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

2501

Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) 2500 Software (C2500-I-L), Version 12.3(12), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc4)
Copyright (c) 1986-2004 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Fri 02-Apr-04 18:32 by kellythw
Image text-base: 0x03070388, data-base: 0x00001000

ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 11.0(10c), SOFTWARE
BOOTLDR: 3000 Bootstrap Software (IGS-BOOT-R), Version 11.0(10c), RELEASE SOFTWA
RE (fc1)

System image file is "flash:c2500-i-l.123-12.bin"

cisco 2500 (68030) processor (revision N) with 14336K/2048K bytes of memory.
Processor board ID 18331714, with hardware revision 00000000
Bridging software.
X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
1 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
2 Serial network interface(s)
32K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read ONLY)

System flash directory:
File Length Name/status
1 12414912 c2500-i-l.123-12.bin
[12414976 bytes used, 4362240 available, 16777216 total]
16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read ONLY)

2503

Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) 2500 Software (C2500-I-L), Version 12.3(12), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc4)
Copyright (c) 1986-2004 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Fri 02-Apr-04 18:32 by kellythw
Image text-base: 0x03070388, data-base: 0x00001000

ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 11.0(10c), SOFTWARE
BOOTLDR: 3000 Bootstrap Software (IGS-BOOT-R), Version 11.0(10c), RELEASE SOFTWA
RE (fc1)

System image file is "flash:c2500-i-l.123-12.bin"

cisco 2500 (68030) processor (revision N) with 14336K/2048K bytes of memory.
Processor board ID 06099877, with hardware revision 00000001
Bridging software.
X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
Basic Rate ISDN software, Version 1.1.
1 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
2 Serial network interface(s)
1 ISDN Basic Rate interface(s)
32K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read ONLY)

System flash directory:
File Length Name/status
1 12414912 c2500-i-l.123-12.bin
[12414976 bytes used, 4362240 available, 16777216 total]
16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read ONLY)


2523

Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) 2500 Software (C2500-JS-L), Version 12.2(27), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc3)
Copyright (c) 1986-2004 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Tue 02-Nov-04 22:01 by kellmill
Image text-base: 0x0307D390, data-base: 0x00001000
ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 5.2(8a), RELEASE SOFTWARE
BOOTLDR: 3000 Bootstrap Software (IGS-RXBOOT), Version 10.2(8a), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)

System image file is "flash:c2500-js-l.122-27.bin"
cisco 2523 (68030) processor (revision C) with 16384K/2048K bytes of memory.

Bridging software.
X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
SuperLAT software (copyright 1990 by Meridian Technology Corp).
TN3270 Emulation software.
Basic Rate ISDN software, Version 1.1.
1 Token Ring/IEEE 802.5 interface(s)
2 Serial network interface(s)
8 Low-speed serial(sync/async) network interface(s)
1 ISDN Basic Rate interface(s)
32K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read ONLY)

System flash directory:
File Length Name/status
1 15986456 c2500-js-l.122-27.bin
[15986520 bytes used, 790692 available, 16777212 total]
16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read ONLY)

QUIX0TIC

wow.. thats expensive. You can price it separately and get a better price. But, it is a one shot deal so if it fits your budget... then it will never hurt.

Legacy User

Yes, expensive is the right word. I've found another one from the Netherlands, it costs 350 EUR and it includes the hardware:
* Cisco 2610 + 1x WIC-1T
* Cisco 2503 - 1x ISDN Bri - 2x Serial - 1x Aui
* Cisco 2501 - 2x Serial - 1x Aui
* Cisco 1912 12x10Mbit + 2x 10/100Mbit ports - Enterprise software
* Back-to-Back cable
* 2x 3Com Transceivers
* Console cable & power cords (NL style)

I guess this is a bit better, but they don't mention IOS or any tech details, except that it's all in working order. I'm gonna ask for more details.

EDIT: seller didn't want to mention anything related to sh version command or detailed info. The seller didn't sell the lab either. Still looking for hardware.