NEW CCNA Exams Announced!!

krjay

What percentage of the material do you think will be completely unattainable if you dont have access to the new IOS? <1% ?

networker050184

JustFred wrote: »

You don't have a problem with them announcing out of the blue their new IOS or Certifications are only useful for people who have IGS2 routers? How many people do you know who can afford these for a home lab or even from their employer?

No I don't have a problem with it. I'd have a problem if their certifications weren't updated to stay with their current technology.

JustFred

Point taken, but what has this got to do with keeping the technology current? Lots of comapnies still use old hardware some which are still supported by Cisco.

networker050184

Most of the old lab hardware people use are definitely EOL/EOS . You can't even buy the older stuff from Cisco or have it supported anymore. Last day of support for 2600XM routers was a year ago.

fredlwal

I just hope they update packet tracer with the new IOS 15 since that is a cheaper alternative.

DB Cooper

We have concerns about the knowledge level of someone skipping ccna and going to straight to security or phone.

I would hope Cisco Corp have spoken with their security and phone engineers and made sure the cert is a solid foundation for what they will be experiencing in the workforce. Granted it wont cover everything like all certs, but its enough to get you started.

I've been working towards ccna and then move into security, and have concerns after reading this thread. I don't just want a job, I want to be good at it. It maybe a fools hope, but I'm hoping cisco knows the industry and its engineers needs to be successful.

Change is part of our business, our objective has changed, so we adapt.

webgeek

Looks like you can mix and match the old CCENT/CCNA certs with the new ones.

Source: CCNA

Priston

DB Cooper wrote: »

We have concerns about the knowledge level of someone skipping ccna and going to straight to security or phone.

I'm still not 100% sure what they are changing or how they are changing it, but I think they are making CCENT a pre-requirement for all associate level certs. I could be wrong though.

Also good find webgeek, that link has the exam topics
http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/exams/list/icnd1b.html#~Topics
http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/exams/list/icnd2b.html#~Topics
http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/exams/list/ccna_composite2.html#~Topics

webgeek

Priston wrote: »

I'm still not 100% sure what they are changing or how they are changing it, but I think they are making CCENT a pre-requirement for all associate level certs. I could be wrong though.

Not for all but interesting knowing someone who has the CCENT can take the CCNA Security/SPO/Voice/Wireless....hhhmmm I would still go the same route CCENT --> CCNA R&S --> CCNA Security/SPO/Voice/Wireless

spiderjericho

fredlwal wrote: »

I just hope they update packet tracer with the new IOS 15 since that is a cheaper alternative.

Packet Tracer 6 includes the 29XX and 19XX ISR2 routers with IOS 15. My only gripe with the beta is they're still missing CCNA curriculum commands and they haven't updated the code/software simulation of the other devices like the 3560/2950/2960 and other devices to current Cisco devices like 3750X, 3850, 2960S, 3560X, etc. but obviously, there isn't money made on the software, so it's all good.

And if you're looking at the professional or expert certs, you'll either have to build a lab, rack rental or Google cough, cough the stuff Cisco uses.

Priston

Found this!
Associate-Level Certifications Exam Logic Tool - Cisco Systems

webgeek

Priston wrote: »

Found this!
Associate-Level Certifications Exam Logic Tool - Cisco Systems

Finally working! lol didn't want to post a dead link before verifying...Thanks Priston

havenlad

So my problem is future CCNAs who pass over the next few months can do so by taking the ICND1 very soon and taking the new ICND2 next year and totally miss out on ACLs and IPv6. Either I haven't read that right or they need to change something

Xyro

webgeek wrote: »

Looks like you can mix and match the old CCENT/CCNA certs with the new ones.

Source: CCNA

Iceman25k

http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/exams/docs/icnd_examUpdates.pdf

Sums up the exam changes pretty well.

d6bmg

Iceman25k wrote: »

http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/exams/docs/icnd_examUpdates.pdf

Sums up the exam changes pretty well.

Thanks for the official link, mate.

theodoxa

It looks almost as if they are moving 90% of what is now ICND1 + ICND2 into ICND1 and making ICND2 Troubleshooting plus alot of new stuff (Netflow, SNMP, Syslog, FHRP). A new CCENT will be almost the equivalent of a current CCNA, only missing EIGRP and WANs (PPP, Frame Relay).

theodoxa

BTW, it appears they are now selling [or more accurately leasing since its time limited] IOU (IOS on Unix). They have one for the new ICND1, but I don't see one for the new ICND2 or Composite CCNA yet.

https://learningnetworkstore.cisco.com/market/prod/productView.se.work;jsessionid=7030adbe29f1$EC$3FN$?/nxt/rcrs/proieidentity/=20974&/nxt/rcrs/aisidentity/=2559#.UVMKCxyG28A

d6bmg

theodoxa wrote: »

It looks almost as if they are moving 90% of what is now ICND1 + ICND2 into ICND1 and making ICND2 Troubleshooting plus alot of new stuff (Netflow, SNMP, Syslog, FHRP). A new CCENT will be almost the equivalent of a current CCNA, only missing EIGRP and WANs (PPP, Frame Relay).

And CCNA can't just be called entry level exam for sure..

xkaijinx

Question. I get my CCNA before september 30th using the old exam format.

If I want to take the CCNA Voice / Security is that a new format? I can just study and sit for those exams no issue after?

draught

I was about to throw a fit for a moment when I saw the changes in the email. I've already spent at least $170 on materials. I don't intend to have to buy all new books and labs for a new exam. Thankfully I see the change isn't until September 26 which gives me more than enough time. That's a helpful deadline really.

dasmoothride

So, If I take ICND1 and I passed it before October and decided I wanted to take ICND2 after the cutoff date, will I be able to do that? Or I would have to retake the newer version of ICND1 before I could take the newer ICND2 exam.

Iceman25k

dasmoothride wrote: »

So, If I take ICND1 and I passed it before October and decided I wanted to take ICND2 after the cutoff date, will I be able to do that? Or I would have to retake the newer version of ICND1 before I could take the newer ICND2 exam.

Associate-Level Certifications Exam Logic Tool - Cisco Systems That should answer your questions.

ArabianKnight

So, if I take the old ICND1 then CCNA:Sec would there be any CCNA level knowledge requirement to successfully pass it. I think Cisco would not allow the exam to have that level of prerequisite if you need it to pass the security exam.

martell1000

ArabianKnight wrote: »

So, if I take the old ICND1 then CCNA:Sec would there be any CCNA level knowledge requirement to successfully pass it. I think Cisco would not allow the exam to have that level of prerequisite if you need it to pass the security exam.

i took and passed the ccna:sec last week. and i guess only thing you might miss in the current ICND1 is ACLs basics and IPv6. but since access lists are a foundation of of the sec cert you will have to master them anyway before getting near this exam.

but i would strongly suggest to be on a ccna level when attending the security track at the moment, because when i think back how much i knew when i got my ccent two years ago and now its a HUGE difference.

anyhow i watched at the new ICND1 topics yesterday and it looks like its gotten a lot harder for new people to get in BUT from a perspective of someone who done the old track not so long ago i have to say that you will have to learn about all this stuff sooner or later anyways if you wanna be in the cisco world...

d6bmg

dasmoothride wrote: »

So, If I take ICND1 and I passed it before October and decided I wanted to take ICND2 after the cutoff date, will I be able to do that? Or I would have to retake the newer version of ICND1 before I could take the newer ICND2 exam.

Yes, all you need to do is to take the ICND2 before the sut-off date and you would be just fine.

JDMurray

CBT Nuggets now has a MicroNugget explaining the new ICND1, ICND2, and CCNA exams: MicroNugget: What's New in the CCNA 2013? - YouTube

RouteMyPacket

Just when Cisco had ensured their CCNA wasn't some "entry level" certification they go and make these changes. *sigh*

The CCNA has some seriously valuable underlying information for any network engineer to understand, it's not an easy walk in the park certification like it was thought of pre 2007

I can see it now, ask someone if they can do some R&S and they respond "Uh, no i'm in Security".."I'm in Voice" because they no longer really have to learn it.

Sure, any solid engineer will know it regardless but we will see even more of an influx of these types that IT is already overflowing with. Ugh!

Keep on keeping on, it doesn't affect my certification path. Good luck to everyone whichever way you go.

oli356

@RouteMyPacket - I haven't looked into all of the changes but I think I read that you now only need to do ICND1 to do CCNA security, voice or whatever.

But ICND1 has become MUCH harder. It basically covers all of the topics which were in ICND2..

I really want to go and sit ICND1 and ICND2 again, the new ones to see what has changed for myself. ICND2 sounds very easy now compared to ICND1.

phoeneous

Sorry if someone already posted this.

Jeremy Ciora does a live chat and discusses the new exams.

New CCNA exams, chat with Jeremy Cioara - YouTube