Cisco CCNA Security Approved as Department of Defense 8570.01-M Certification

sigsoldier

Link:

Cisco CCNA Security Approved as Department of Defense 8570.01-M Certification - MarketWatch

aftereffector

Interesting. CompTIA is probably not happy right now.

RouteMyPacket

Good stuff!

MSP-IT

Just makes my resume look that much more attractive!

sigsoldier

Here is one more link from DISA's site:

DoD 8570 Information Assurance Workforce Improvement Program

colemic

I see one issue - it is in the same categories (IAT I and IAT II) as Net+ and Sec+, both of which are substantially easier to earn, both in level of knowledge, and cost. (multiple exams for CCNA:S, if I recall.) I think it is great that they are receptive to adding new certs in the mix, but it won't bother CompTIA at all. One of the flaws of 8570 is the importance it places on certification period, not relevancy to the job at hand to the certification. So a desktop support or even hardware support position can now be filled by a CCNA:S, which really doesn't add value to the position. (It doesn't hurt, but doesn't help, in this instance.) Or, if networking jobs are classed as IAT I or II, it could be very beneficial. I guess I'm just not a fan of 8570, it means well, but oftentimes just makes the problem worse by focusing on certs, not relevancy or actual experience.

theodoxa

colemic wrote: »

I see one issue - it is in the same categories (IAT I and IAT II) as Net+ and Sec+, both of which are substantially easier to earn, both in level of knowledge, and cost. (multiple exams for CCNA:S, if I recall.)

The CCNA: Security is 1 exam unless I missed something. The CCNP: Security is 4 exams. Not sure about the current pricing, but CompTIA has always been on the expensive side, which is why I never actually took Net+. I could have passed it easily, but didn't see any reason to spend nearly $300 on a cert that wouldn't add much to my resume.

zxbane

theodoxa,

I think what he means is that in order to get the CCNA: Security you must first acquire the CCENT (unless I am mistaken)

mistabrumley89

I actually did a phone interview back in October with the Research company that the DoD contracted out to see if CCNA:S should be added to 8570. They placed it in the exact category I said I would rate it at. Seems legit. Too bad I couldn't have waited and gotten a voucher for it though.

colemic

zxbane wrote: »

theodoxa,

I think what he means is that in order to get the CCNA: Security you must first acquire the CCENT (unless I am mistaken)

Correctamundo!

emerald_octane

So, and I may be wrong, but don't nearly all the other certs have CPE options? I know that is required for ANSI accreditation.

Not that it's that difficult to renew CCNA:S every three years, it just seems odd that it's the only one with a hard expiration date, non renewable except for passing the exam again.

theodoxa

emerald_octane wrote: »

So, and I may be wrong, but don't nearly all the other certs have CPE options? I know that is required for ANSI accreditation.

Not that it's that difficult to renew CCNA:S every three years, it just seems odd that it's the only one with a hard expiration date, non renewable except for passing the exam again.

You can renew Cisco certifications by passing an equal or higher exam. For CCNA: Security, I believe that passing any CCNA Speciality (Wireless, Voice, etc...) or any single CCNP exam will renew all your CCNA level exams. When I looked into CompTIA's CE program, it indicated hey CHARGE you an ongoing fee for the PRIVILEGE of being able to submit credits instead of retaking the exams. Then again, with CompTIA exam prices that might still work out cheaper.

theodoxa

zxbane wrote: »

theodoxa,

I think what he means is that in order to get the CCNA: Security you must first acquire the CCENT (unless I am mistaken)

I didn't think about the CCENT/CCNA. Though, I would think most people pursuing the CCNA: S probably already have their CCENT if not a CCNA: R&S.

colemic

emerald_octane wrote: »

So, and I may be wrong, but don't nearly all the other certs have CPE options? I know that is required for ANSI accreditation.

Not that it's that difficult to renew CCNA:S every three years, it just seems odd that it's the only one with a hard expiration date, non renewable except for passing the exam again.

That crossed my mind as well... I just assumed that they consider having to take an equal-or-higher test the same as CPEs. In my mind, it is certainly a better choice to require a new cert or renewal, than by watching a couple of webcasts for CPE credits. Or reading a magazine.

SephStorm

colemic wrote: »

I see one issue - it is in the same categories (IAT I and IAT II) as Net+ and Sec+, both of which are substantially easier to earn, both in level of knowledge, and cost. (multiple exams for CCNA:S, if I recall.) I think it is great that they are receptive to adding new certs in the mix, but it won't bother CompTIA at all. One of the flaws of 8570 is the importance it places on certification period, not relevancy to the job at hand to the certification. So a desktop support or even hardware support position can now be filled by a CCNA:S, which really doesn't add value to the position. (It doesn't hurt, but doesn't help, in this instance.) Or, if networking jobs are classed as IAT I or II, it could be very beneficial. I guess I'm just not a fan of 8570, it means well, but oftentimes just makes the problem worse by focusing on certs, not relevancy or actual experience.

I dont think it will be used in that way, I think in IT fields in DoD, you'll see System admins with A+ - Security+. and For people doing a pure security or network /security track they will go Sec+ - CCNA:S - CEH - CISSP. or something to that effect. What it also enables is for that shop networking guy to get the CCNA Sec vice Sec+. Also allows less CPE requirements in that you only have to maintain the certs relevant to your duties.