Basic CUCM & CME

So I finally prepared myself a CUCM VM and a CME router. Trying to understand some basic concepts.

(1) Does CUCM on VM need the CME router to process digital signals? Or is it totally independent?

(2) If CUCM and CME both co-exist in a network, do IP Phones, upon connection, just broadcast to reach out either one?

(3) CME is just the license actviated on CME-Voice router and features need to be unlocked?

Thanks.

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shodown

CME is a independent call processing product. CUCM needs a gateway or trunk of some sort to for calls to leave. The gateway can be a cisco router or a SIP/H323 trunk to another product.

If you have both they are usually independent and have a trunk or gatekeeper so users can dial between both.

CME does require a certain IOS feature set and its licensed to use.

You should try to learn one or the other before moving into the other. I recommend CME 1st since it gets you use to dial-peers, voice translations rules and other digit manipulation technique. When people learn CUCM first they learn some work arounds to not doing the things I mentioned above and have a hard time moving into more senior positions.

sendalot

Thank you for the reply.

If I start with CME, what are the steps to unlock more feature after accepting EULA?
I don't see much submenu under "Unified Communications" in CCP or even in running config.

Thanks again.

shodown

oh your using CCP. I"m not to sure about CCP, or if its even on the test. You won't do too much CCP in the field everything is going to be CLI. I would learn how to do everything on the CLI, then go back and do what you need to do for CCP on the test. I'm going to make a CME video this weekend. I have the SIP trunk video done and will post it soon.

pitviper

shodown wrote: »

oh your using CCP. I"m not to sure about CCP, or if its even on the test. You won't do too much CCP in the field everything is going to be CLI. I would learn how to do everything on the CLI, then go back and do what you need to do for CCP on the test. I'm going to make a CME video this weekend. I have the SIP trunk video done and will post it soon.

CCP is indeed on the "new" CCNA:V, which is a shame!

sendalot

How do I activate the telephony features? Just type "telephony-service" on conf t?

Thanks.

pitviper

yep. If you do a "show ver" it'll tell you if you have a permanent license installed:

Technology Package License Information for Module:'c2900' 


-----------------------------------------------------------------
Technology    Technology-package           Technology-package
              Current       Type           Next reboot  
------------------------------------------------------------------
ipbase        ipbasek9      Permanent      ipbasek9
security      securityk9    Permanent      securityk9
uc            uck9          Permanent      uck9
data          None          None           None

sendalot

pitviper wrote: »

yep. If you do a "show ver" it'll tell you if you have a permanent license installed:

Technology Package License Information for Module:'c2900' 


-----------------------------------------------------------------
Technology    Technology-package           Technology-package
              Current       Type           Next reboot  
------------------------------------------------------------------
ipbase        ipbasek9      Permanent      ipbasek9
security      securityk9    Permanent      securityk9
uc            uck9          Permanent      uck9
data          None          None           None

I have a 2911 that I just accepted the EULA with. I guess I'm good to go?

Thanks.

pitviper

Was it from a voice bundle? If not, the voice features will expire in 8 weeks unless you upload a permanent license - not sure if you can "reset" the eval, maybe someone else can chime in on that.

sendalot

pitviper wrote: »

Was it from a voice bundle? If not, the voice features will expire in 8 weeks unless you upload a permanent license - not sure if you can "reset" the eval, maybe someone else can chime in on that.

I did acquire some PAKs. Where do I enter that?
Thanks.

pitviper

You have to register the PAK here (need a CCO login):

cisco.com/go/licensing

do a "show license udi" on the router - you'll need this information to "bind" the feature to the platform.

Once you get the LIC file, you'll need to upload it to the router (example using TFTP, but you can use other methods):

license install tftp://10.1.1.1/poop.lic

sendalot

"Paste the content of the License Request provided by Enterprise License Manager below:" where do I get this?
Thanks.

pitviper

?? That's for CUCM, not the router.

sendalot

pitviper wrote: »

?? That's for CUCM, not the router.

Hmm, I might have gotten a wrong one or I'll try on CUCM nonetheless.

Thanks.

sendalot

I did "show telephony-services"

#show telephony-service
CONFIG (Version=9.1)
=====================
Version 9.1
Max phoneload sccp version 17
Max dspfarm sccp version 18
Cisco Unified Communications Manager Express
For on-line documentation please see:
Introduction - Support - Cisco

protocol mode default
ip source-address UNKNOWN port 2000
ip qos dscp:
ef (the MS 6 bits, 46, in ToS, 0xB

for media
cs3 (the MS 6 bits, 24, in ToS, 0x60) for signal
af41 (the MS 6 bits, 34, in ToS, 0x8

for video
default (the MS 6 bits, 0, in ToS, 0x0) for serviceservice directed-pickup
max-ephones 0
max-dn 0
max-conferences 8 gain -6
dspfarm units 0
dspfarm transcode sessions 0
conference software
privacy
no privacy-on-hold
hunt-group report delay 1 hours
hunt-group logout DND
max-redirect 10
cnf-file location: system:
cnf-file option: PER-PHONE-TYPE
network-locale[0] US (This is the default network locale for this box)
network-locale[1] US
network-locale[2] US
network-locale[3] US
network-locale[4] US
user-locale[0] US (This is the default user locale for this box)
user-locale[1] US
user-locale[2] US
user-locale[3] US
user-locale[4] US
srst mode auto-provision is OFF
srst ephone template is 0
srst dn template is 0
srst dn line-mode single
time-format 12
date-format mm-dd-yy
timezone 0 Greenwich Standard Time
no transfer-pattern is configured, transfer is restricted to local SCCP phones only.
keepalive 30 auxiliary 30
timeout interdigit 10
timeout busy 10
timeout ringing 180
timeout transfer-recall 0
timeout ringin-callerid 8
timeout night-service-bell 12
caller-id name-only: enable
web admin system name Admin
web admin customer name Customer
edit DN through Web: disabled.
edit TIME through web: disabled.
background save interval 10 minutes
Log (table parameters):
max-size: 150
retain-timer: 15
transfer-system full-consult
transfer-digit-collect new-call
local directory service: enabled.
Extension-assigner tag-type ephone-tag.

But why am I still not seeing the full menu on CCP?

Thanks.

sendalot

Nevermind, solved the problem by going to "Edit" in CCP - Unified Communications and picking CUCME.

Thanks ya'll.