Internal promotion but no pay raise

loss4words83loss4words83 Member Posts: 1 ■□□□□□□□□□
Hey guys,

Just wanted to get your thoughts on this. I am currently working in a Helpdesk team in a supervisor/escalation role. I am now being promoted to the IT Operations team with a lot more responsibilities (SCCM, VMWare, AD/GPO, Azure, NetApp). After asking for a salary adjustments due to added responsibilities I was told that it was not possible due to COVID (company did lose money at the beginning of pandemic but is back on track and doing well currently). New manager said he will look into giving me extra stock options (one time company stock buy worth around 3% my salary), but that didn't sound too enticing to me.

I guess I can ask again a in year or two for the salary adjustment again when hopefully the world gets back to normal, but I'm sure from their end they will not want to do it since I'm doing the work already.

Just wanted to get your thoughts on the situation and if you had some advice?

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  • E Double UE Double U Member Posts: 1,876 ■■■■■■■■■□
    Ask if management received raises/bonuses. If the answer is no because raises are on hold companywide then I would be understandable. If not, take on the additional responsibility (assuming it interests you) to give your resume a boost and then look for something else.
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  • JDMurrayJDMurray MSIT InfoSec, CISSP, SSCP, GSEC, EnCE, C|EH, CySA+, PenTest+, CASP+, Security+ Surf City, USAAdmin Posts: 12,194 Admin
    New manager said he will look into giving me extra ...

    Your manager already knows what s/he can and can't give you. This sort of thing is discussed endlessly in management meetings under the category of "retaining employees." You will need to consider all other aspects of your new position and decide if your job it still worth doing despite the lack of an immediate salary increase. If not, start looking elsewhere.
  • greg9891greg9891 Member Posts: 1,183 ■■■■■■■□□□
    Yeah @loss4words83 I would start looking elsewhere because. Those change in titles without pay is dangerous. If they don't pay you upfront when you are promoted and you start doing the work. They likely won't pay you for work they can get you to do for free. I would update my resume and start job hunting.
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  • scaredoftestsscaredoftests Security +, ITIL Foundation, MPT, EPO, ACAS, HTL behind youMod Posts: 2,779 Mod
    Wow, what a crock of manure. Start looking for another job if the company has a mindset like that one..
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  • DatabaseHeadDatabaseHead Teradata Assc 16, Querying Microsoft SQL Server 2012/2014, CSM Member Posts: 2,651 ■■■■■■■■■□
    edited March 12
    @loss4words83

    You obviously know your situation better than all of us combine.  With that said (and I am working off of limited info) I would consider learning as much as you can for the next year in the role and then leverage it into a higher level OPS position. 

    I guess my first question is do you even like the new role?
  • scott28ttscott28tt Member Posts: 683 ■■■■■□□□□□
    Lots of companies haven’t given promotions or pay increases in the last 12 months, well done on getting one of them plus some stock in lieu of the other.
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  • gbutlergbutler Junior Member Member Posts: 24 ■■■□□□□□□□
    edited March 13

    Congratulations first on your new role.
    I would like to say that based on your previous role(which is not clear), the new role seems to have lot of learning curve, with new skills you get a nice pay after one year of experience.
    If you really feel money your problem then you are open to find new job.

    at  last i would like to say "Anyone can take your tools and techniques but not your skills!"

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  • _netmon_netmon Azure | MCSE | MCSA | MDAA | MCTS | CompTIA A+ | N+ | S+ Mod Posts: 14 Mod
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    I would get that in writing or you will never see your raise. 
    Agree with this. 

    If it was me, I'd secure the new job so I can put it on my CV, give it 6 months or so then look for another company to work at with the same level position. 
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  • greg9891greg9891 Member Posts: 1,183 ■■■■■■■□□□
    edited April 1
    Interesting situation, the stocks are good but that kind of behavior by companies are red flags to me. In this case the promotion should have come with a raise. But its good that you get to work with all those technologies. Just add them to your resume just incase things don't work out.
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    When will you rise from your sleep? A little sleep, a little slumber, A little folding of the hands to sleep, So shall your poverty come on you like a prowler And your need like an armed man.
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