Crunchyhippo wrote: » Just a question about CCM - when one has completed the CCVP track, I know that CallManager should be quite familiar at that point. I often compare CCM with Photoshop in complexity (roughly speaking). They're both behemoths to learn. Since I'm more familiar with Photoshop than I am with CCM, I can't imagine knowing PS inside out after a few months of studying it. It really takes years to learn it well. I'm wondering if it's the same with CCM. You learn it fairly well (for those of us who don't have access to it at work) and manage to pass a cert test(s) on it. Then it's up to you to get to know it really well. For those of you who have passed CIPT and TUC (or obtained CCVP already), do you feel this is the case? On a scale of 1 to 100 (with 1 being "I've never used CallManager" to 100 being "I know every aspect of the program like the back of my hand"), how well should one know CCM at a minimum after completing CCVP? Any thoughts? It would help me to know how much time to spend learning the program.